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Realistically, this Kansas State team has the chance to make some noise in the Big 12 North. With key returning players, key recruits, and a top-notch (experienced) coaching staff I expect the Cats to go no worse than 7-5, but no better than 9-3.

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September 5th 2009
Kansas State vs. UMASS
Bill Snyder Family Stadium


A large crowd will be on hand to witness the return of a legend. Bill Snyder will guide the Cats to a fairly easy win over the UMASS Minutemen. Should be a very exciting and loud game. (WIN)

September 12th 2009
Kansas State @ Louisiana Lafayette
Cajun Field


The Cats will go on the road for the first time in 2009 and take on the Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Lafayette. The Cats had a tough time taking care of ULL last year in Manhattan, but with a better coached team, and a down ULL team, the Cats should come out with a win. (Win)

September 19th 2009
Kansas State @ UCLA
The Rose Bowl


Kansas State will travel to the historic Rose Bowl to take on UCLA. This should be the Cats first true "test." Although not very talented UCLA will have a home field advantage, and should be a challenge for this Wildcat squad. Expect a lot of purple in the Rose Bowl as well though, and remember, under Snyder the Cats tend to play very well in the state of California. Should be a battle to the finish. (Toss Up)

September 26th 2009
Kansas State vs. Tennessee Tech
Bill Snyder Family Stadium


The Cats will return home after two road games to face Tennessee Tech. This game has the makings for a blowout. The Cats should easily embarrass the Golden Eagles. Could be another large crowd depending on the outcome of the UCLA game. (Win)

October 3rd 2009
Kansas State vs. Iowa State
Arrowhead Stadium (KC)


The Wildcats and the Cyclones will play the first of two games in Arrowhead in 2009. Although the game is not in Manhattan, it should be a mostly purple crowd. Iowa State will be under the direction of a very unexperienced coaching staff and will be down from last year (if thats even possible). The Cats should walk away with this one and gain their first conference victory. (Win)

October 10th 2009
Kansas State @ Texas Tech
Jones AT&T Stadium


Honestly, I don't see the Cats being able to win this one. In front of a rowdy Tech crowd, the Cats will most likely fall to the Red Raiders evening their Big 12 record at 1-1. (Loss)

October 17th 2009
Kansas State vs. Texas A&M
Bill Snyder Family Stadium


Bill Snyder and the Cats will return to Manhattan to play their first true Big 12 home game. The Texas A&M Aggies, who have been picked to finish last in the Big 12 South, will come into town most likely beaten down after probable losses to Arkansas and Oklahoma State, and fall to the Cats. (Win)

October 24th 2009
Kansas State vs. Colorado
Bill Snyder Family Stadium


After a devastating one point loss to the Buffs in Boulder last year, the Cats will be out for revenge, and a sub-par Colorado team will have a rowdy BSFS to deal with. The Snyder led Cats should easily take care of Hawkins and the Buffs. (Win)

October 31st 2009
Kansas State @ Oklahoma
Oklahoma Memorial Stadium


Plain and simple, this game could get ugly. I would like to say that K-State could upset the Sooners, not like it hasn't happened before ;), but highly doubt it. This one could be over early. (Loss)

November 7th 2009
Kansas State vs. Kansas (107th Edition of The Sunflower Showdown)
Bill Snyder Family Stadium


I'm gonna come right out and say it, I am excited for this game. I know the season hasn't even started and we don't really know what we have in a team, but after losing the last four out of five games to the Jayhawks; Bill Snyder, K-State players, and most of all K-State fans are ready to kick the crap out of ku again. Expect this game to be very intense, very loud, and very emotional. I would even be willing to say that this game could break the BSFS attendance record. Honestly I, like many other K-Staters, have a gut feeling the good guys will come out with a win, it'll be close but I expect K-State nation to show up and help guide the Cats to W. (Toss Up)

November 14th 2009
Kansas State vs. Missouri
Bill Snyder Family Stadium


Missouri is down, but how down? No one really knows, yet. I think Missouri will expose its weaknesses in this game. I think a loud K-State fan-base could once again feed these Cats the energy they need. If the Cats beat ku the week before this should be a win. If not they may come in with their heads down and throw it away. I really don't know what to think about this one yet. (Toss Up)

November 21st 2009
Kansas State @ Nebraska
Nebraska Memorial Stadium


Nebraska will be good, maybe to good for K-State to beat in Lincoln. Nebraska has been picked to win the Big 12 North by many publications. Honestly I think the Cats will lose, but don't expect Snyder to go down without a fight against the Huskers. (Loss)

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This will definitely be a re-building year. Coach Snyder has a lot to clean up from the mess that Prince left behind. I realize these are early predictions, but this team really has a chance at being decent and taking Kansas State back to a bowl game. A lot of this season hinges on the fan support. The amazing response to John Curries new ticket packages have sold a lot of tickets to the UMASS game, and the ku game will obviously be a sell out. But us fans and students need to fill Bill Snyder Family Stadium every home game and be loud. I've talked to several football players, current and past, and you would be surprised at how much they say the crowd helps them. Back in Snyders first reign, almost no one could beat us at home because it was so intimidating. So lets get the fan support back to where it was. Ticket prices are down this year so get out and support the Cats! The buzz around campus is awesome and all the students are excited for football season to get here. Everyone I've talked to has tickets this year so expect the student section to be full and rockin' every Saturday.

Like I said earlier, yes, this team will be young and inexperienced but give them a chance. Look at the stats and you will see what I see. It surprising what a new coaching staff can do. The talent was there last year and the year before, we just didn't have a coaching staff that knew how to coach. If everything goes good, expect an 8-4 or 7-5 record. If everything goes great expect 9-3. If everything falls apart expect 6-6 or worse. Like I said I am a K-State student, and a huge K-State fan who knows what he's talking about when it comes to K-State Athletics. If you question anything I've said in this post respond to it and I'll explain myself. Also throw in your predictions!

In these next 45 days before the second Snyder Era begins, order your tickets, get pumped and be in Bill Snyder Family Stadium to see the Cats dismantle UMASS on September 5th! Go State!
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July 21, 2009, 04:09:54 PM
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Overperforming-7 wins

About Right-5 wins

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July 21, 2009, 04:41:57 PM
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I'd much rather have a 69 year old coach than one that weighs 400+ pounds.

July 21, 2009, 04:52:10 PM
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5 to 7 wins. Somwhere in between there. Will post my official season prediction sometime in the next month.

July 21, 2009, 06:08:16 PM
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I know this is just my second post but.. might as well give it a shot

Massachusetts- Win-Great Crowd lots of cheers for Snyder. A little edgy  and rusty but 20 point win at least

@Louisiana- Win- Close, we are looking ahead to a trip the Rose Bowl(haha) and its an early road trip. Hopefully all stays well for the boys in Purple.

@UCLA- Loss-. I know UCLA is not good, but they are trying to prove something this they want to go out and win as many non-conference games. Good start, but crowd of a huge stadium gets to us

Tennessee Tech- Win- It’s a normal team Snyder likes to beat. It’s a touch up game before we head to Big 12 game

Iowa State-Win- Iowa State will want to win this game but I don’t think they have the talent to beat us. KC will be a fun game to go to. hopefully wildcats are on their A game cause they will need it.

Texas Tech- Loss- It’s a road game and Texas Tech’s first home Big 12 game, they may be coming off a Texas loss and will want to stay in the hunt

Texas A&M- Win!- We are looking for maybe our only Big12 home game win. A&M is not looking good at all. We are better. I know it

Colorado- Loss- Its going to be a close game that we lose. Its going to hurt but the Buffs are looking to get on a good streak. I start asking, who on God’s green earth is our quarterback. :pray:

@OU-Loss-Blowout. Nuff said

Annoying Jerks from Eastern Kansas- Great game. Bill has only lost once to ku at home(first season) Fat Butt Coach has never beaten his old boss at his place. Kstate looking to go bowling, But ku is looking for a North Title. Overtime….Loss one of the most painful losses in history of me. :banghead:

Missouri-Loss- I know they lost there QB but I think that the loss to ku will be a stick in the butt and really tears us down. Cant get our self together. We say a good bye to Brandon Banks.

Cornsuckers- Game of the year for the Cats.. :billypopcorn: Bo Polini talks smack on Bill Snyder all week. Nebraska may be top 15 team and the most cocky fans will be at the game. But so will I. I am going…and Kstate and Old Bill Snyder will Shock the Big Read in an Epic game. Snyder uses the Husker Pie Hole Youtube Video calling us doormats as a halftime talk. We put Joe Ganz on his husker rear. NU fans will call the game a fluke, but we nock them out of the North Championship and send ku. Win

:ksu:
Bowl- (6-6, 3-5) Some crummy bowl. I don’t know what.. But we go cause Snyder is back..  Hopefully a win. Good enough season for me at least.  :blahblah:

July 21, 2009, 06:12:39 PM
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i really don't see where all this negativity is coming from  :confused:

UCLA not world beaters we can and i think we will win.

i agree w/ everything kst8r33  said you can powertard me but i love my cats and i think  :kstatriot: will be flying and we will go bowling

July 21, 2009, 06:21:02 PM
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July 21, 2009, 06:31:11 PM
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simulated a season on NCAA 10 jus to see what'd happin

K-State goes 8-4 loosing to UCLA, TT, OU, N


jus sayin


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simulated a season on NCAA 10 jus to see what'd happin

K-State goes 8-4 loosing to UCLA, TT, OU, N


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This reminds me of phog.net threads.
ksufanscopycat my friends.

July 21, 2009, 07:06:38 PM
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simulated a season on NCAA 10 jus to see what'd happin

K-State goes 8-4 loosing to UCLA, TT, OU, N


jus sayin


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What bowl and who did we play?

Who was our qb?

Who was our rb?



I still want my cooler, bitches!

July 21, 2009, 08:18:50 PM
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I know this is just my second post but.. might as well give it a shot

Massachusetts- Win-Great Crowd lots of cheers for Snyder. A little edgy  and rusty but 20 point win at least

@Louisiana- Win- Close, we are looking ahead to a trip the Rose Bowl(haha) and its an early road trip. Hopefully all stays well for the boys in Purple.

@UCLA- Loss-. I know UCLA is not good, but they are trying to prove something this they want to go out and win as many non-conference games. Good start, but crowd of a huge stadium gets to us

Tennessee Tech- Win- It’s a normal team Snyder likes to beat. It’s a touch up game before we head to Big 12 game

Iowa State-Win- Iowa State will want to win this game but I don’t think they have the talent to beat us. KC will be a fun game to go to. hopefully wildcats are on their A game cause they will need it.

Texas Tech- Loss- It’s a road game and Texas Tech’s first home Big 12 game, they may be coming off a Texas loss and will want to stay in the hunt

Texas A&M- Win!- We are looking for maybe our only Big12 home game win. A&M is not looking good at all. We are better. I know it

Colorado- Loss- Its going to be a close game that we lose. Its going to hurt but the Buffs are looking to get on a good streak. I start asking, who on God’s green earth is our quarterback. :pray:

@OU-Loss-Blowout. Nuff said

Annoying Jerks from Eastern Kansas- Great game. Bill has only lost once to ku at home(first season) Fat Butt Coach has never beaten his old boss at his place. Kstate looking to go bowling, But ku is looking for a North Title. Overtime….Loss one of the most painful losses in history of me. :banghead:

Missouri-Loss- I know they lost there QB but I think that the loss to ku will be a stick in the butt and really tears us down. Cant get our self together. We say a good bye to Brandon Banks.

Cornsuckers- Game of the year for the Cats.. :billypopcorn: Bo Polini talks smack on Bill Snyder all week. Nebraska may be top 15 team and the most cocky fans will be at the game. But so will I. I am going…and Kstate and Old Bill Snyder will Shock the Big Read in an Epic game. Snyder uses the Husker Pie Hole Youtube Video calling us doormats as a halftime talk. We put Joe Ganz on his husker rear. NU fans will call the game a fluke, but we nock them out of the North Championship and send ku. Win

:ksu:
I hope this doesn't show your FB IQ but um, Ganz is gone. Try to keep up, it's gonna be a long year :thumbsup:
Bowl- (6-6, 3-5) Some crummy bowl. I don’t know what.. But we go cause Snyder is back..  Hopefully a win. Good enough season for me at least.  :blahblah:

July 21, 2009, 08:26:40 PM
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I know this is just my second post but.. might as well give it a shot

Massachusetts- Win-Great Crowd lots of cheers for Snyder. A little edgy  and rusty but 20 point win at least

@Louisiana- Win- Close, we are looking ahead to a trip the Rose Bowl(haha) and its an early road trip. Hopefully all stays well for the boys in Purple.

@UCLA- Loss-. I know UCLA is not good, but they are trying to prove something this they want to go out and win as many non-conference games. Good start, but crowd of a huge stadium gets to us

Tennessee Tech- Win- It’s a normal team Snyder likes to beat. It’s a touch up game before we head to Big 12 game

Iowa State-Win- Iowa State will want to win this game but I don’t think they have the talent to beat us. KC will be a fun game to go to. hopefully wildcats are on their A game cause they will need it.

Texas Tech- Loss- It’s a road game and Texas Tech’s first home Big 12 game, they may be coming off a Texas loss and will want to stay in the hunt

Texas A&M- Win!- We are looking for maybe our only Big12 home game win. A&M is not looking good at all. We are better. I know it

Colorado- Loss- Its going to be a close game that we lose. Its going to hurt but the Buffs are looking to get on a good streak. I start asking, who on God’s green earth is our quarterback. :pray:

@OU-Loss-Blowout. Nuff said

Annoying Jerks from Eastern Kansas- Great game. Bill has only lost once to ku at home(first season) Fat Butt Coach has never beaten his old boss at his place. Kstate looking to go bowling, But ku is looking for a North Title. Overtime….Loss one of the most painful losses in history of me. :banghead:

Missouri-Loss- I know they lost there QB but I think that the loss to ku will be a stick in the butt and really tears us down. Cant get our self together. We say a good bye to Brandon Banks.

Cornsuckers- Game of the year for the Cats.. :billypopcorn: Bo Polini talks smack on Bill Snyder all week. Nebraska may be top 15 team and the most cocky fans will be at the game. But so will I. I am going…and Kstate and Old Bill Snyder will Shock the Big Read in an Epic game. Snyder uses the Husker Pie Hole Youtube Video calling us doormats as a halftime talk. We put Joe Ganz another crappy cornhole overrated quarterback that will get his freakin head ripped off again on his husker rear. NU fans will call the game a fluke, but we nock them out of the North Championship and send ku. Win

:ksu:
I hope this doesn't show your FB IQ but um, Ganz is gone. Try to keep up, it's gonna be a long year :thumbsup:
Bowl- (6-6, 3-5) Some crummy bowl. I don’t know what.. But we go cause Snyder is back..  Hopefully a win. Good enough season for me at least.  :blahblah:


my bad my FB IQ is a little off

July 21, 2009, 09:12:38 PM
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simulated a season on NCAA 10 jus to see what'd happin

K-State goes 8-4 loosing to UCLA, TT, OU, N


jus sayin


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What bowl and who did we play?

Who was our qb?

Who was our rb?



Alamo, Wisconsin (Wisc. won 31-24), D.Thomas, K.Valentine


for the record N won the North, uk was 6-6, UT won the 'ship verse florida McCoy won the Heisman  :banghead: and Harold was 2nd team all american. Banks Harold and Moore were 1st team all con. didn't see who was 2nd team.

good sign imo EA Sports its in EMAW

July 21, 2009, 09:20:02 PM
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I lost you when you said UCLA did not have talent.

July 22, 2009, 11:30:15 AM
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We will beat ku.  I predict it.  Bill Snyder has not lost to ku in Snyder Sanctuary since 1989.  Ron Prince barely lost to ku's best team in years in Snyder Sanctuary, but Prince has no mojo.

We will beat ku.

July 22, 2009, 12:04:20 PM
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I know this is just my second post but.. might as well give it a shot

Massachusetts- Win-Great Crowd lots of cheers for Snyder. A little edgy  and rusty but 20 point win at least

@Louisiana- Win- Close, we are looking ahead to a trip the Rose Bowl(haha) and its an early road trip. Hopefully all stays well for the boys in Purple.

@UCLA- Loss-. I know UCLA is not good, but they are trying to prove something this they want to go out and win as many non-conference games. Good start, but crowd of a huge stadium gets to us

Tennessee Tech- Win- It’s a normal team Snyder likes to beat. It’s a touch up game before we head to Big 12 game

Iowa State-Win- Iowa State will want to win this game but I don’t think they have the talent to beat us. KC will be a fun game to go to. hopefully wildcats are on their A game cause they will need it.

Texas Tech- Loss- It’s a road game and Texas Tech’s first home Big 12 game, they may be coming off a Texas loss and will want to stay in the hunt

Texas A&M- Win!- We are looking for maybe our only Big12 home game win. A&M is not looking good at all. We are better. I know it

Colorado- Loss- Its going to be a close game that we lose. Its going to hurt but the Buffs are looking to get on a good streak. I start asking, who on God’s green earth is our quarterback. :pray:

@OU-Loss-Blowout. Nuff said

Annoying Jerks from Eastern Kansas- Great game. Bill has only lost once to ku at home(first season) Fat Butt Coach has never beaten his old boss at his place. Kstate looking to go bowling, But ku is looking for a North Title. Overtime….Loss one of the most painful losses in history of me. :banghead:

Missouri-Loss- I know they lost there QB but I think that the loss to ku will be a stick in the butt and really tears us down. Cant get our self together. We say a good bye to Brandon Banks.

Cornsuckers- Game of the year for the Cats.. :billypopcorn: Bo Polini talks smack on Bill Snyder all week. Nebraska may be top 15 team and the most cocky fans will be at the game. But so will I. I am going…and Kstate and Old Bill Snyder will Shock the Big Read in an Epic game. Snyder uses the Husker Pie Hole Youtube Video calling us doormats as a halftime talk. We put Joe Ganz another crappy cornhole overrated quarterback that will get his freakin head ripped off again on his husker rear. NU fans will call the game a fluke, but we nock them out of the North Championship and send ku. Win

:ksu:
I hope this doesn't show your FB IQ but um, Ganz is gone. Try to keep up, it's gonna be a long year :thumbsup:
Bowl- (6-6, 3-5) Some crummy bowl. I don’t know what.. But we go cause Snyder is back..  Hopefully a win. Good enough season for me at least.  :blahblah:


my bad my FB IQ is a little off





THAT is the most accurate thing you have written in this entire thread.

July 22, 2009, 12:14:33 PM
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Louisiana  at Lafayette, La.  W
UCLA  at Pasadena, Calif.  L
Tennessee Tech  Manhattan, Kan.  W
Iowa State *  at Kansas City, Mo.  W
Texas Tech *  at Lubbock, Texas  L
Texas A&M *  Manhattan, Kan.  W
Colorado *  Manhattan, Kan W
Oklahoma *  at Norman, Okla.  L
Kansas *  Manhattan, Kan.  Mangino has heart attack game is not played Missouri *  Manhattan, Kan.  W
Nebraska *  at Lincoln, Neb.  L

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July 22, 2009, 01:12:54 PM
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Massachusetts  Manhattan, Kan. W
Louisiana  @ Lafayette, La.  W
UCLA  @ Pasadena, Calif.  L
Tennessee Tech  Manhattan, Kan.  W
Iowa State *  @ Kansas City, Mo.  W
Texas Tech *  @ Lubbock, Texas  L
Texas A&M *  Manhattan, Kan.  W
Colorado *  Manhattan, Kan L
Oklahoma *  @ Norman, Okla.  L
Kansas *  Manhattan, Kan.  L
Missouri *  Manhattan, Kan.  L
Nebraska *  @ Lincoln, Neb.  L

We have precisely 0% chance of winning any of the last four games with the dogs currently on our roster.  Deal with it.  Games that could go either way are Louisiana, UCLA, ISU and Colorado -- I have us splitting these toss-up games.

Things are definitely looking up for 2010, though.

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July 22, 2009, 01:40:24 PM
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Massachusetts  Manhattan, Kan. W
Louisiana  @ Lafayette, La.  W
UCLA  @ Pasadena, Calif.  L
Tennessee Tech  Manhattan, Kan.  W
Iowa State *  @ Kansas City, Mo.  W
Texas Tech *  @ Lubbock, Texas  L
Texas A&M *  Manhattan, Kan.  W
Colorado *  Manhattan, Kan L
Oklahoma *  @ Norman, Okla.  L
Kansas *  Manhattan, Kan.  L
Missouri *  Manhattan, Kan.  L
Nebraska *  @ Lincoln, Neb.  L

We have precisely 0% chance of winning any of the last four games with the dogs currently on our roster.  Deal with it.  Games that could go either way are Louisiana, UCLA, ISU and Colorado -- I have us splitting these toss-up games.

Things are definitely looking up for 2010, though.

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Looks like that Colorado game could mean the season for us...I agree, it could go either way.

In 2010 we lose a ton of solid players and replace them with what?  Bill's next three years will probably be very similar to Ron's three years.


July 22, 2009, 03:01:01 PM
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UCLA- L
Tenn. Tech- W
ISU- W
TT- L
A&M- W
CU- W
OU- L
ku- L
MU- toss up
NU- L

I see us going 6-6 or 7-5, and possibly 5-7 at worst. Our schedule is pretty easy this year so a bowl game is definitely possible.

July 22, 2009, 03:26:20 PM
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I break it down into tiers

3 non-con rummies = 3-0

aTm
ISU
CU = 2-1

@ucla
MU
ku = 1-2

@ou
@nu
@ttu = 0-3


that's 6-6. and that's kind of optimistic. we really need to sweep the "2-1" category, and beat one of ku/mu.  
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

July 22, 2009, 03:38:20 PM
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So? What is Weird Robert saying about the up comming football season. Has he been reinstated to the football training area? :kstatriot:

July 22, 2009, 03:44:16 PM
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I break it down into tiers

3 non-con rummies = 3-0

aTm
ISU
CU = 2-1

@ucla
MU
ku = 1-2

@ou
@nu
@ttu = 0-3


that's 6-6. and that's kind of optimistic. we really need to sweep the "2-1" category, and beat one of ku/mu.  

this. 

July 22, 2009, 04:14:07 PM
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So? What is Weird Robert saying about the up comming football season. Has he been reinstated to the football training area? :kstatriot:

What?  Ron Princess banned him from Vanier?
I'd much rather have a 69 year old coach than one that weighs 400+ pounds.

July 22, 2009, 04:21:33 PM
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I lost you when you said UCLA did not have talent.

UCLA's last 5 recruiting class rankings, per Rivals: 14, 13, 40, 17, 26.  They certainly look to be pretty talented, IMHO.  Of course, they did finish in 8th place in the conference last year.  Not really sure what that's all about.

July 22, 2009, 05:18:44 PM
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I lost you when you said UCLA did not have talent.

UCLA's last 5 recruiting class rankings, per Rivals: 14, 13, 40, 17, 26.  They certainly look to be pretty talented, IMHO.  Of course, they did finish in 8th place in the conference last year.  Not really sure what that's all about.
That was about an atrocious string of season ending injuries to the first three QB's and three OL. 
FWIW, Phil Steele has them at 21 in his Power Poll to 56 for KSU.