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May 19, 2009, 12:22:42 AM
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May 19, 2009, 01:11:46 AM
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George is absolutely right on this one.  When you listen to those dipcraps some of the things they say is so far from reality its pretty remarkable. Kietzman and company are the worst.   :royals:
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May 19, 2009, 08:46:07 AM
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George is absolutely right on this one.  When you listen to those dipcraps some of the things they say is so far from reality its pretty remarkable. Kietzman and company are the worst.   :royals:

If you hate Kietz you are going to hear what you want.

When the Royals were coming off their winning streak, the people calling into the show pretty much had the division wrapped up.  Kietz and Clinkscale, etc. were trying to calm people down a bit, and pointed out that some of the dumb mistakes the Royals were making and some of the questionable decisions by Hillman would eventually come back to bit them even though they were winning then.  They were pretty much spot on with their assessment.  Kietz can go on some silly rants, but the guy is an absolute pro at what he does. 

I understand why George got ticked off by the question, but the media in KC hasn't been that unfair with Hillman so far IMO.  He's doing a good job, but he probably could do some things better.  That really shouldn't be a surprise for a guy in his 2nd year as a MLB manager.

May 19, 2009, 08:59:37 AM
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I guess 16 years of a "Major League" franchise sucking balls, after starting their history as THE MODEL expansion Franchise tends to make people a little impatient.

Brett is a douche nugget, always  has been.


May 19, 2009, 11:25:08 AM
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George is absolutely right on this one.  When you listen to those dipcraps some of the things they say is so far from reality its pretty remarkable. Kietzman and company are the worst.   :royals:

If you hate Kietz you are going to hear what you want.

When the Royals were coming off their winning streak, the people calling into the show pretty much had the division wrapped up.  Kietz and Clinkscale, etc. were trying to calm people down a bit, and pointed out that some of the dumb mistakes the Royals were making and some of the questionable decisions by Hillman would eventually come back to bit them even though they were winning then.  They were pretty much spot on with their assessment.  Kietz can go on some silly rants, but the guy is an absolute pro at what he does. 

I understand why George got ticked off by the question, but the media in KC hasn't been that unfair with Hillman so far IMO.  He's doing a good job, but he probably could do some things better.  That really shouldn't be a surprise for a guy in his 2nd year as a MLB manager.

Well obviously he is a pro, because he has a big job in a smaller market city.  All I am saying is Kietz, Clinkscale, and Jack Harry have never been managers at any level except for maybe little league.  So they really have no clue what running or managing a game is like.  Im not certain on thier resumes but im going to guess that neither of them have significant athletic careers (I honestly don't know and dont care), so I dont think its fair for them to say it should be this way or that way.  They just dont know what they are talking about.  I have been in a managerial setting so I know how these tiny decisions you make can be a point of scrutiny.  Not to mention while working for the Royals I have had the benefit of being around Mr. Hillman and the guy knows his baseball, trust me on that one.  If I were in a "baseball pickle" Im taking Hillman over Kietz or any other DB you throw at me from the media.
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May 19, 2009, 11:27:44 AM
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I guess 16 years of a "Major League" franchise sucking balls, after starting their history as THE MODEL expansion Franchise tends to make people a little impatient.

Brett is a douche nugget, always  has been.



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May 19, 2009, 11:47:00 AM
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I stopped listening to KK several years ago so I am not sure what he has been saying about the Royals this year but I do know from his track record they are probably 70% negative comments at least. GB is right and I am glad he had to cuss throughout the whole interview because it makes people listen to what he has to say.

May 19, 2009, 12:30:44 PM
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If it wasn't for George Brett....the Royals and this thread may not exist.

May 19, 2009, 12:32:33 PM
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Really . . . how much of his own money has George Brett "invested" in the Royals??

The Royals . . . are the new old Cleveland Indians.


May 19, 2009, 12:46:29 PM
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Anyone who calls out Kevin Kietzman and Jack Harry is fine by me. 

May 19, 2009, 04:03:10 PM
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Anyone who calls out Kevin Kietzman and Jack Harry is fine by me. 

LOL at Bentard . . . Kietzman and Harry don't always say nice things about ku therefore I don't like them.

That being said, they're both idiots.

Since for whatever reason 810 streaming doesn't work at my office (but just about everyone else does) I missed it, but friends were telling me that Kietzman is back on his "play some games in Ahearn" kick again.   What Kietzman doesn't get is that to get the "magic" back, which was last seen about 23 years ago it would cost 10's of millions of dollars.   No way the fire marshall lets more than about 5,000 in there for a basketball game . . . the "magic" was over 11,000 people jammed in there like sardines looming over the court. 

May 19, 2009, 04:20:21 PM
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Anyone who calls out Kevin Kietzman and Jack Harry is fine by me. 

LOL at Bentard . . . Kietzman and Harry don't always say nice things about ku therefore I don't like them.

That being said, they're both idiots.

Since for whatever reason 810 streaming doesn't work at my office (but just about everyone else does) I missed it, but friends were telling me that Kietzman is back on his "play some games in Ahearn" kick again.   What Kietzman doesn't get is that to get the "magic" back, which was last seen about 23 years ago it would cost 10's of millions of dollars.   No way the fire marshall lets more than about 5,000 in there for a basketball game . . . the "magic" was over 11,000 people jammed in there like sardines looming over the court. 



Never said I didn't like Kietzman, but he deserved to be called out after some of the bullsh*t that has come out of his mouth recently.  Jack Harry is a bonafide moron, though.

May 19, 2009, 04:24:25 PM
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May 19, 2009, 04:37:07 PM
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May 19, 2009, 06:10:12 PM
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He is just another alcoholic spouting off in public.





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May 19, 2009, 06:45:53 PM
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I will agree with him that Harry is an idiot.

I still think that Hillman sucks at managing though.
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May 19, 2009, 08:58:37 PM
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I will agree with him that Harry is an idiot.

I still think that Hillman sucks at managing though.

Im honestly asking, what in your eyes are some of the things he is doing wrong.  I am just seeing what you disagree with?
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May 19, 2009, 09:07:24 PM
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I will agree with him that Harry is an idiot.

I still think that Hillman sucks at managing though.

Im honestly asking, what in your eyes are some of the things he is doing wrong.  I am just seeing what you disagree with?
Two easy ones:

Gload last year getting almost 400 ABs last year

Farnsworth to start the season





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May 19, 2009, 10:08:37 PM
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I will agree with him that Harry is an idiot.

I still think that Hillman sucks at managing though.

Im honestly asking, what in your eyes are some of the things he is doing wrong.  I am just seeing what you disagree with?
Two easy ones:

Gload last year getting almost 400 ABs last year while spending most of that time at 1B instead of Butler

Farnsworth to start the season

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May 19, 2009, 10:46:52 PM
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I will agree with him that Harry is an idiot.

I still think that Hillman sucks at managing though.

Im honestly asking, what in your eyes are some of the things he is doing wrong.  I am just seeing what you disagree with?
Two easy ones:

Gload last year getting almost 400 ABs last year

Farnsworth to start the season

As far as gload getting ab's you guys should have seen Billy in the field at Wichita and Omaha, cant really blame Hillman for that.  I know that the coaches worked darn near every day on grounders and situations with him and Jacobs.  So I am as suprised as anyone how well he is playing.

Farnsworth's career numbers.   W 30  L 51  S 27  ERA 4.47  Not terrible, but not the best either.  So for Hillman throwing him in, in the first game isnt really that big of a concern to me.  He simply missed a spot with a pitch and a great hitter (over 300 hrs) Thome, made him pay.  Cruzies numbers are better but Farnsworth and Cruz are pretty much set up guys.  So even if Cruz gets the call you never know what Thome will do against him.  It was a situation where Hillman needed to find out where he needed to use guys and now I think he would go to Cruz.  In the scheme of managing thats really pretty minimal.  Now he did give up the walkoff to Murphy I believe but he had used a good amount of pitchers so someone had to come in.

So for a guy in his second year who has forgot more baseball than you and I know combined, I think he is doing a damn fine job... considering we are not at the basebment of the central right now.  He is a good manager, but at some point the players have to finish the job.
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May 19, 2009, 10:50:53 PM
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One thing fans forget a lot is that baseball is a horribly streaky game and while the losing streaks are painful they are bound to happen.   There is always a doom and gloom aura when a team is losing but a "we are winning it all" aura when we win. Marathon not a sprint!!!

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May 19, 2009, 10:58:19 PM
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I will agree with him that Harry is an idiot.

I still think that Hillman sucks at managing though.

Im honestly asking, what in your eyes are some of the things he is doing wrong.  I am just seeing what you disagree with?
Two easy ones:

Gload last year getting almost 400 ABs last year

Farnsworth to start the season

As far as gload getting ab's you guys should have seen Billy in the field at Wichita and Omaha, cant really blame Hillman for that.  I know that the coaches worked darn near every day on grounders and situations with him and Jacobs.  So I am as suprised as anyone how well he is playing.

Farnsworth's career numbers.   W 30  L 51  S 27  ERA 4.47  Not terrible, but not the best either.  So for Hillman throwing him in, in the first game isnt really that big of a concern to me.   He simply missed a spot with a pitch and a great hitter (over 300 hrs) Thome, made him pay.  Cruzies numbers are better but Farnsworth and Cruz are pretty much set up guys.  So even if Cruz gets the call you never know what Thome will do against him.  It was a situation where Hillman needed to find out where he needed to use guys and now I think he would go to Cruz.  In the scheme of managing thats really pretty minimal.  Now he did give up the walkoff to Murphy I believe but he had used a good amount of pitchers so someone had to come in.

So for a guy in his second year who has forgot more baseball than you and I know combined, I think he is doing a damn fine job... considering we are not at the basebment of the central right now.  He is a good manager, but at some point the players have to finish the job.

If Billy was that bad in the minors then why did he ever get a shot to play in the field in the league?
As for Farnz and the season opener, what is spring trainning for?

now i'm not saying  I think Hillman is a good manager but I don't think he is as bad as some people make him out to be.  When a team is contending, or hoping to contend the manager is gonna be under a microscope as opossed to 30 game back, non contenders.   :royals:

May 19, 2009, 11:15:44 PM
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Farnsworth hasn't been good since 2005, and was extremely inconsistent before that.

for the past 3 years he has been mediocre at best.

Just because he threw hard and came up in one of the most publicized clubs doesn't mean he is good, hell most people in KC remember him for slamming that fag Affeldt, they have no idea how he pitches. Which is all hard stuff not trying to fool hitters like good pitchers do.


Have you even seen Butdawg this year at first? If he could have had the time to develop last year he could be further along than he is currently. But thanks for backing the decision to play a career backup outfielder over the future first baseman of the franchise, great decision.  BTW, 3 HRs and a .665 OPS from a guy who gets near 400 ABs and who plays first base primarily is freaking pathetic. Where is Doug Mientkiewicz when you need him?





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May 20, 2009, 12:35:25 PM
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Whoa there hot shot I wasn't necessarily backing I'm just giving facts and the other side of the arguement.  I know that's probably strange for most.
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May 20, 2009, 03:48:08 PM
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I will agree with him that Harry is an idiot.

I still think that Hillman sucks at managing though.

Im honestly asking, what in your eyes are some of the things he is doing wrong.  I am just seeing what you disagree with?

I don't personally like how he is putting a lineup together. I mean I'm just a high school baseball player, but I have an idea of what a good lineup looks like.

I also really hate how he leaves pitchers in for too long. Farnsworth has actually been turning it around a little, I think he has 10 or so straight scoreless innings.

I also kind of don't like his managerial style, but that's just an opinion. 
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May 20, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
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Whoa there hot shot I wasn't necessarily backing I'm just giving facts and the other side of the arguement.  I know that's probably strange for most.

Yes, it is arguing a point that you don't agree with, not many people do that.





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Well I guess you being the perfect debater or messageboarder I should just sit down and take notes.  :jerkoff:
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May 20, 2009, 10:12:17 PM
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Whoa there hot shot I wasn't necessarily backing I'm just giving facts and the other side of the arguement.  I know that's probably strange for most.

Yes, it is arguing a point that you don't agree with, not many people do that.

Isn't that kinda the whole point of debate teams?

May 22, 2009, 03:47:56 PM
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The only thing I found noteworthy about the article is from looking at the pic George is really beginning to look old, kind of makes me feel that way as well.