Create EllToPay's itinerary for NYC...

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

I think early in the morning at the Empire State Building should help your wait.  I think the view is worth it, also.  I'd pass on the Statue of Liberty.  Agree Ellis Island is sort of boring IMO, unless maybe you had a relative come through there.

If you go to Ground Zero, you can do all sorts of other things downtown, like go down to Battery Park and look at the harbor and the Statue of Liberty, then go over to Stone Street and sit outside drinking a beer near Fraunces Tavern where George Washington bid farewell to his troops, then back up to Wall Street and Federal Hall.

You don't need to dress up for the musical, but some of the crowd will be, so you can feel free to do it up.

Also, here are a couple good site for finding restaurants (I recommend sushi):
http://www.menupages.com/
http://nymag.com/restaurants/

[cas]

HTH:

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=28388.0

[AzCat]

Coolest part of the Empire State Building is the lobby, you might stand in line for quite a while to go up top which is a waste of time IMHO.

We already bought our tickets. Should that cut down the time in line? If we go early in the morning when they open (8:00 am), will we have to wait very long?

I'd imagine that early morning would help and it's probably not as bad this time of year as it might be in the summer.  The view is pretty amazing but we had to wait like 90 minutes (midafternoon, late summer) which just about drove me nuts. 

[EllToPay]

HTH:

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=28388.0

Gracias. 

[KSt8er]

hmmm, sounds to me like hopping on a comuter to D.C. would be the better option. 

[ew2x4]

Guggenhiem and MOMA, dude. Also, Gray's Papaya.

[steve dave]

Guggenhiem and MOMA, dude. Also, Gray's Papaya.

Went to the Natural History Museaum when we went.  Didn't see Neil deGrasse Tyson which was kinda a bummer.

[Pett]

Going to be in NYC 21st-24th too bro.  We are going to the Yankee game on the 22nd (1pm day game, cheap tix on stubhub now because it's a matinee). 

Nice, brah. I'm goin the 23rd - 26th. Stayin' right off Times Square. 

GMAFB, we are staying at the Marriott Marquis in Times Square. 

Stayed in this in '05. Very nice hotel, the view from your room (windows around the whole room) is .

[steve dave]

Going to be in NYC 21st-24th too bro.  We are going to the Yankee game on the 22nd (1pm day game, cheap tix on stubhub now because it's a matinee). 

Nice, brah. I'm goin the 23rd - 26th. Stayin' right off Times Square. 

GMAFB, we are staying at the Marriott Marquis in Times Square. 

Stayed in this in '05. Very nice hotel, the view from your room (windows around the whole room) is .

Yeah, I like to roll in style when I'm not paying for it, you know?

[Rick Daris]

I think early in the morning at the Empire State Building should help your wait.  I think the view is worth it, also.  I'd pass on the Statue of Liberty.  Agree Ellis Island is sort of boring IMO, unless maybe you had a relative come through there.

If you go to Ground Zero, you can do all sorts of other things downtown, like go down to Battery Park and look at the harbor and the Statue of Liberty, then go over to Stone Street and sit outside drinking a beer near Fraunces Tavern where George Washington bid farewell to his troops, then back up to Wall Street and Federal Hall.

You don't need to dress up for the musical, but some of the crowd will be, so you can feel free to do it up.

Also, here are a couple good site for finding restaurants (I recommend sushi):
http://www.menupages.com/
http://nymag.com/restaurants/

ghost-

you live in ny?

[ew2x4]

Guggenhiem and MOMA, dude. Also, Gray's Papaya.

Went to the Natural History Museaum when we went.  Didn't see Neil deGrasse Tyson which was kinda a bummer.

That's a bummer. Ever since I saw him on Leno...   

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

ghost-

you live in ny?

Yes.

[Pike]

Metropolitan Museum - A must

Most elite museum ever and it's like on the edge of central park

Also, Tavern on the Green (i think it's called)

Most elite restaurant/bar ever. And it's on the other side of central park

[Chad May Lover]

House of hoops in Harlem is prty sweet.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

Metropolitan Museum - A must

Most elite museum ever and it's like on the edge of central park

Also, Tavern on the Green (i think it's called)

Most elite restaurant/bar ever. And it's on the other side of central park

Also, if/when you go to the Met, go up to the roof.  They have a sculpture exhibit up there, serve drinks, and you can look out over the park.  Sometimes a jazz band is playing, too.  Very elite.

[EllToPay]

Also, Tavern on the Green (i think it's called)

Got reservations there for Saturday night.

[steve dave]

Metropolitan Museum - A must

Most elite museum ever and it's like on the edge of central park

Also, Tavern on the Green (i think it's called)

Most elite restaurant/bar ever. And it's on the other side of central park

Also, if/when you go to the Met, go up to the roof.  They have a sculpture exhibit up there, serve drinks, and you can look out over the park.  Sometimes a jazz band is playing, too.  Very elite.

GOSP, suggestion for nice romantic type place to take mrs. dave near Time Square?  Also, bar suggestions in area for post-meal-drinks?  thanks bro!

[EllToPay]

Hey Steve, try and stay til Saturday and we can go down to Madison Square Garden to celebrate Freemaw's draft selection with with him and Ronny!

[steve dave]

Hey Steve, try and stay til Saturday and we can go down to Madison Square Garden to celebrate Freemaw's draft selection with with him and Ronny!

Ha, didn't think of that.  Would be pretty elite to show up in EMAW gear and boo them both.  Have to leave friday though. 

[Pike]

Also:

Walk across the Brooklyn Bridge into Queens. Beautiful walk and then theres an awesome pizza place at the end!

I regret not going up the Empire State building at night....so do that.

There's this really sick ass tavern that's like 200 years old down in the financial district. They say George Washington or somebody used to chill there. Eat there for sure.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

GOSP, suggestion for nice romantic type place to take mrs. dave near Time Square?  Also, bar suggestions in area for post-meal-drinks?  thanks bro!

Tough request for that neighborhood.  Well, if money is no issue (dinner starting at $200 + alcohol), definitely go to Le Bernadin for the dinner of your lives:
Le Bernadin

Chez Josephine is a big step down in price and much more casual:
Chez Josephine

In the middle is Esca, Mario Batali's latest place, also well-reviewed:
Esca

Also, if you want cheaper and hip/noisy dinner, you can try Eatery on 53rd and Ninth.  I dated a girl who was a bartender there, so I used to go there quite a bit:
Eatery

There are also tons of other restaurants on Ninth Avenue, from sushi to Mexican, that are pretty good.

And, its nowhere near Time Square, but if you are a foodie, might as well try to get reservations at momofuku ko: momfuku ko

As for bars, when I'm up in that hood I'm usually going to Irish bars or dive bars on Ninth Avenue, but there are a whole bunch of bars on Ninth also.  I don't have any specific suggestions for a romantic place in that hood.  If you end up by Columbus Circle (upper 50s), the bar at the Hudson Hotel is very impressive (and expensive): Hudson

I would do much better if you asked about downtown or the Upper East Side. 

[steve dave]

GOSP, suggestion for nice romantic type place to take mrs. dave near Time Square?  Also, bar suggestions in area for post-meal-drinks?  thanks bro!

Tough request for that neighborhood.  Well, if money is no issue (dinner starting at $200 + alcohol), definitely go to Le Bernadin for the dinner of your lives:
Le Bernadin

Chez Josephine is a big step down in price and much more casual:
Chez Josephine

In the middle is Esca, Mario Batali's latest place, also well-reviewed:
Esca

Also, if you want cheaper and hip/noisy dinner, you can try Eatery on 53rd and Ninth.  I dated a girl who was a bartender there, so I used to go there quite a bit:
Eatery

There are also tons of other restaurants on Ninth Avenue, from sushi to Mexican, that are pretty good.

And, its nowhere near Time Square, but if you are a foodie, might as well try to get reservations at momofuku ko: momfuku ko

As for bars, when I'm up in that hood I'm usually going to Irish bars or dive bars on Ninth Avenue, but there are a whole bunch of bars on Ninth also.  I don't have any specific suggestions for a romantic place in that hood.  If you end up by Columbus Circle (upper 50s), the bar at the Hudson Hotel is very impressive (and expensive): Hudson

I would do much better if you asked about downtown or the Upper East Side. 

Great stuff.  Thanks bro. 

[ksudrew]

canal street - replace your Rolex

[EllToPay]

GOSP, suggestion for nice romantic type place to take mrs. dave near Time Square?  Also, bar suggestions in area for post-meal-drinks?  thanks bro!

Tough request for that neighborhood.  Well, if money is no issue (dinner starting at $200 + alcohol), definitely go to Le Bernadin for the dinner of your lives:
Le Bernadin

Chez Josephine is a big step down in price and much more casual:
Chez Josephine

In the middle is Esca, Mario Batali's latest place, also well-reviewed:
Esca

Also, if you want cheaper and hip/noisy dinner, you can try Eatery on 53rd and Ninth.  I dated a girl who was a bartender there, so I used to go there quite a bit:
Eatery

There are also tons of other restaurants on Ninth Avenue, from sushi to Mexican, that are pretty good.

And, its nowhere near Time Square, but if you are a foodie, might as well try to get reservations at momofuku ko: momfuku ko

As for bars, when I'm up in that hood I'm usually going to Irish bars or dive bars on Ninth Avenue, but there are a whole bunch of bars on Ninth also.  I don't have any specific suggestions for a romantic place in that hood.  If you end up by Columbus Circle (upper 50s), the bar at the Hudson Hotel is very impressive (and expensive): Hudson

I would do much better if you asked about downtown or the Upper East Side. 

Very nice, thanks brah.

The lady and I are eating on Friday at the restaurant on the Brooklyn Bridge. River Walk Cafe? Is that the name? Thoughts?

[fatty fat fat]

this looks like something you would build in simcity. so fake.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

this looks like something you would build in simcity. so fake.

Look lower left.  Shirtless LSOC just tacked on the 2pt conversion with an end around.

[BigCat]

Going to be in NYC 21st-24th too bro.  We are going to the Yankee game on the 22nd (1pm day game, cheap tix on stubhub now because it's a matinee).  

jesus SD... "OMG letS go to a squankees game that would be so fun and we could tell our friends haha"

First thing I would do when I got to NYC would be to NOT go to a plankies game.

[steve dave]

squankees....plankies

Christ....good show sir

[BigCat]

squankees....plankies

Christ....good show sir

yeah. of the 'crap' variety.

ps still a stupidass idea to go to a crankies game.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

The lady and I are eating on Friday at the restaurant on the Brooklyn Bridge. River Walk Cafe? Is that the name? Thoughts?

River Cafe.  Very good choice.  Great view of Manhattan -- a friend of mine is getting married in the neighboring park this summer because of the romantic view.

You'll be right between DUMBO and Brooklyn Heights.  DUMBO is a bunch of converted factories -- lots of really great artsy stuff to do during the day, but not so much at night.  In Brooklyn Heights, there's a very nice promenade along the river, and also lots of beautiful historic houses.  Also, some bars and restaurants, mainly on Henry Street and Montague Street.

Have fun guys!  I am leaving for vacation myself tomorrow, so don't break the city while I'm gone.