Good day for KSU Football

[Cem Blasoflas]

All these egomaniacs have been officially dumped onto other programs.  Thanks be to the Lord!  Amen!  Thank God that Bryce found his sign from God and I wish him nothing but good health and great success!  Praise Jesus! 

(This is not sarcasm.)

[catdude33]

Shut up idiot.  You know who else was an egomaniac?  Every other good player for KSU ever.  If you are awesome at something you might as well be really arrogant about it.

[fatty fat fat]

bill snyder is a complete loser.

[Cem Blasoflas]

Shut up idiot.  You know who else was an egomaniac?  Every other good player for KSU ever.  If you are awesome at something you might as well be really arrogant about it.

You just called Terry Pierce an egomaniac.

I'd take one Terry Pierce over two Brown brothers and a Harper.

[CatsNShocks]

Shut up idiot.  You know who else was an egomaniac?  Every other good player for KSU ever.  If you are awesome at something you might as well be really arrogant about it.

^This.

If your good, you have to have "attitude". Some are quite about it (Barry Sanders) some are obnoxious about it (Deon Sanders) but all have "attitude". BB is the same way. Bottom line...he would have made KSU better.

[Oklahoma_Cat]

Shut up idiot.  You know who else was an egomaniac?  Every other good player for KSU ever.  If you are awesome at something you might as well be really arrogant about it.

You just called Terry Pierce an egomaniac.

I'd take one Terry Pierce over two Brown brothers and a Harper.

He said good players have egos.

[Cem Blasoflas]

Did you not see what Bryce just did?  He pulled out a Miami hat  - with his brother sitting right next to him - and trashed them.  His brother said nothing.

If your name is Randy Shannon, do you maybe notice that?

I'm really not sure, but these are either the most arrogant or dumbest football recruits ever.  I'm leaning toward the latter, but it has to be a combination of both.

And you were seriously hoping they came to K-State?

[mjrod]

In one of our many discussions,  TP and I talked about swagger.   Swagger is a key ingredient if a team is have the kind of success we as fans are looking for.

We need players who have great skills obviously, but we also need players who are willing to talk trash and get dirty on the field.  However, you just can't switch it on, you need a few players who know how to do that so the rest can learn.   Bryce would have been a great help to our team in helping build that.

Bryce picking Tennessee was kinda strange.  Kiffin has been nothing more than a bad sports media magnet, having three NCAA violations in just two months since he was named head coach.   Kinda makes you wonder what is really going on over there.  Let's not forget that he's pissed off a couple of the other SEC coaches and in that male only club down there, that's tantamount to throwing down a challenge.   This isn't a good thing for him.

Kiffin is an unproven coach with a huge ego (sound familiar?) and his tenure has been about as bad as it can get.  Why, as a player, would you consider going someplace where the coach has issues and hasn't even coached his first game?

Clearly, K-State was a close second, but I'm hating moral victories right now.  I'm getting tired of being close.  

[Cem Blasoflas]

Shut up idiot.  You know who else was an egomaniac?  Every other good player for KSU ever.  If you are awesome at something you might as well be really arrogant about it.

You just called Terry Pierce an egomaniac.

I'd take one Terry Pierce over two Brown brothers and a Harper.

He said good players have egos.

I don't mind egos, but they need to come with at least half a brain.  

Why did Bryce need to throw his brother's relationship with the Miami coaches under the bus?  For a laugh?

[powercatmiller]

Did you not see what Bryce just did?  He pulled out a Miami hat  - with his brother sitting right next to him - and trashed them.  His brother said nothing.

If your name is Randy Shannon, do you maybe notice that?

I'm really not sure, but these are either the most arrogant or dumbest football recruits ever.  I'm leaning toward the latter, but it has to be a combination of both.

And you were seriously hoping they came to K-State?

He didnt sit there and say nothing he was cracking up as to say sorry bro I tried to get you there. Like I put that one inthe bag

[Legore]

Shut up idiot.  You know who else was an egomaniac?  Every other good player for KSU ever.  If you are awesome at something you might as well be really arrogant about it.

^This.

If your good, you have to have "attitude". Some are quite about it (Barry Sanders) some are obnoxious about it (Deon Sanders) but all have "attitude". BB is the same way. Bottom line...he would have made KSU better.

You can't compare this new breed of kids to the old school guys.  There is something different about some of these kids.  Deon was cocky and flashy but was also loved by his teamates.   

This new breed of guys are just selfish to the point it  hurts the team.  Think TO or Chad Johnson.  I don't know for sure if Brown falls into that catagory but this whole website and his drawn out recruting saga makes me think he might bring some issues to Tennessee.  That and the fact that his high school team wasn't even very good and his own high school coach has basically trashed him.  If he wasn't good enough to put Wichita East on his back and make then a winner he wasn't going to do the same for KSU.   

[vtrboy]

bill snyder is a complete loser.

time will tell if what you say is true but there can be no doubt that you are a complete douche bag!!

[Cem Blasoflas]

We need players who have great skills obviously, but we also need players who are willing to talk trash and get dirty on the field.  However, you just can't switch it on, you need a few players who know how to do that so the rest can learn.   Bryce would have been a great help to our team in helping build that. 

It sure didn't help his high school team win games.  But maybe Big XII teams would be more intimidated by the No. 1 Rivals recruit in the nation.  

The next time you chat with Terry you should ask him about the difference between confidence and arrogance and which quality he would prefer in a teammate.

[fatty fat fat]

bill snyder is a complete loser.

time will tell if what you say is true but there can be no doubt that you are a complete douche bag!!

I am not a douchebag. today was an opportunity to finally build some exitement for football. as it stands, snyder has done as bad of a recruiting job physically possible. the guy has been a complete disaster so far, and all we are waiting for is when he will retire again.

don't you dare call me a douchebag. i am nothing close to a douchebag.

[mjrod]

We need players who have great skills obviously, but we also need players who are willing to talk trash and get dirty on the field.  However, you just can't switch it on, you need a few players who know how to do that so the rest can learn.   Bryce would have been a great help to our team in helping build that. 

It sure didn't help his high school team win games.  But maybe Big XII teams would be more intimidated by the No. 1 Rivals recruit in the nation.  

The next time you chat with Terry you should ask him about the difference between confidence and arrogance and which quality he would prefer in a teammate.

Neither did Josh Freeman, but what would Josh been like with at least something of a arrogant attitude?

He and I both know the different between arrogance and confidence.   That isn't the issue.  The issue is getting this talent on K-State.  If it means I need to deal with a little arrogance, so be it.

[Cem Blasoflas]

You can't compare this new breed of kids to the old school guys.  There is something different about some of these kids.  Deon was cocky and flashy but was also loved by his teamates.   

This new breed of guys are just selfish to the point it  hurts the team.  Think TO or Chad Johnson.  I don't know for sure if Brown falls into that catagory but this whole website and his drawn out recruting saga makes me think he might bring some issues to Tennessee.  That and the fact that his high school team wasn't even very good and his own high school coach has basically trashed him.  If he wasn't good enough to put Wichita East on his back and make then a winner he wasn't going to do the same for KSU.   

In the "old days" his high school coach would have whipped him into line by holding the character issue over his head.  The HS coach was the gateway to college recruiters.  The "new breed" bypass that and rely on their "recruiting advisor" and umpteen scouting camps to show what they can do.  Bryce Brown could have been the top recruit in the nation if he would have skipped his senior season because he didn't want to get hurt.  

The modern process breeds prima donnas over the old process that at least forced the kids to be somewhat part of the team.  It's not really Bryce's fault.  I'm probably too hard on him.

[Cem Blasoflas]

We need players who have great skills obviously, but we also need players who are willing to talk trash and get dirty on the field.  However, you just can't switch it on, you need a few players who know how to do that so the rest can learn.   Bryce would have been a great help to our team in helping build that. 

It sure didn't help his high school team win games.  But maybe Big XII teams would be more intimidated by the No. 1 Rivals recruit in the nation.  

The next time you chat with Terry you should ask him about the difference between confidence and arrogance and which quality he would prefer in a teammate.

Neither did Josh Freeman, but what would Josh been like with at least something of a arrogant attitude?

He and I both know the different between arrogance and confidence.   That isn't the issue.  The issue is getting this talent on K-State.  If it means I need to deal with a little arrogance, so be it.

I don't think Josh would have been any better.  He is already supremely confident in himself.  The only doubts he had were about the people around him.  I don't think it would have helped even a little bit if he would have spent more time talking trash on the field. 

 

[mjrod]

We need players who have great skills obviously, but we also need players who are willing to talk trash and get dirty on the field.  However, you just can't switch it on, you need a few players who know how to do that so the rest can learn.   Bryce would have been a great help to our team in helping build that. 

It sure didn't help his high school team win games.  But maybe Big XII teams would be more intimidated by the No. 1 Rivals recruit in the nation.  

The next time you chat with Terry you should ask him about the difference between confidence and arrogance and which quality he would prefer in a teammate.

Neither did Josh Freeman, but what would Josh been like with at least something of a arrogant attitude?

He and I both know the different between arrogance and confidence.   That isn't the issue.  The issue is getting this talent on K-State.  If it means I need to deal with a little arrogance, so be it.

I don't think Josh would have been any better.  He is already supremely confident in himself.  The only doubts he had were about the people around him.  I don't think it would have helped even a little bit if he would have spent more time talking trash on the field. 

 

I disagree.  Josh isn't all that great and has been, at best inconsistent in his career.   He didn't act like the leader he needed to be on the field very well.  Had he done so, he might have challenged his defense to step up when they failed miserably so often.

[Cem Blasoflas]

I disagree.  Josh isn't all that great and has been, at best inconsistent in his career.   He didn't act like the leader he needed to be on the field very well.  Had he done so, he might have challenged his defense to step up when they failed miserably so often.

You think Bryce Brown would be a leader on the field?  He certainly showed that he is not a leader on his high school team.  All he showed was that he had the ability to be a great running back.

Arrogance does not equal leadership.

[Cem Blasoflas]

Seriously, has any high school coach in America ever had the number 1 recruit in the nation and publicly lamented (while the kid was still in high school) that they might be better off without him?

Could there be a bigger RED FLAG than that?

[catdude33]

I'll bet you thought we'd be better off without Michael Beasley too.  With his "character issues" and all that.   

[mcmwcat]

i'm w LG on this one.  ksu fb does not need a legitimate div 1 running back on scholly.  it would only distract from the qb run game.  schnyder knows what he's doin.  lay off you frackers.   

[Cem Blasoflas]

I'll bet you thought we'd be better off without Michael Beasley too.  With his "character issues" and all that.   

Good point...except...

If any of Michael Beasley's coaches would have ever said: "It's always been him and then everybody else...Our team chemistry was non-existant." then yeah, I would have thought the same thing about Mike.

Please come up with anything that any of Mike's previous or current coaches ever said like that about him and I will retract all the bad things I've said about Bryce. 

Maybe you are right.  Maybe Bryce Brown is the Michael Beasley of this year's football recruiting class.  I'm still doubtful.

[Cem Blasoflas]

Besides all these other issues, God told him to go to Tennessee.

Are you really willing to question God's will?  If you argue against me, you should keep an eye out for the fire and brimstone that will certainly be coming your way.

 

[mjrod]

I disagree.  Josh isn't all that great and has been, at best inconsistent in his career.   He didn't act like the leader he needed to be on the field very well.  Had he done so, he might have challenged his defense to step up when they failed miserably so often.

You think Bryce Brown would be a leader on the field?  He certainly showed that he is not a leader on his high school team.  All he showed was that he had the ability to be a great running back.

Arrogance does not equal leadership.

Not always true.  A good leader will always have some arrogance, and will lead by example.  The point is the same, we could have used his talent.  Not sure his arrogance would have have been a hindrance .

[omahawildcat]

Besides all these other issues, God told him to go to Tennessee.

Are you really willing to question God's will?  If you argue against me, you should keep an eye out for the fire and brimstone that will certainly be coming your way.

 

Anyone that listens to a make believe invisible man is a little whacko in my books. Tennesse can have him.

[Bullfn33]

bill snyder is a complete loser.

time will tell if what you say is true but there can be no doubt that you are a complete douche bag!!

as it stands, snyder has done as bad of a recruiting job physically possible. the guy has been a complete disaster so far, and all we are waiting for is when he will retire again.

I think it's kind of ironic you say this because I think the reason the program is in the shape it is right now is because of Snyder's first retirement. If Snyder stayed we would have won at least 7-8 total games in '06(sub a win over a cupcake for Louisville, Baylor and maybe a bowl) and the program would have been stabilized. At that point we would have had a great shot to get Harper and a good shot to get A. Brown. Had at least Harper come to KSU, Bryce probably would have followed and we'd be in position to win the North next season. Snyder would likely be in the process of grooming his replacement and KSU football would be relevant again on the national stage by next season. Instead, our admins frucked it all up by pushing Snyder out and hiring the biggest unqualified douchebag in the coaching profession and the rest is reality.

Don't throw Snyder under the bus for the sh1t our administration got the program into. What, did you actually think Brown was going to come and play for a program that just went through a sh1tstorm? Pete Carroll couldn't have gotten him to come to Manhattan with the program in the state it is right now. What part of Brown saying he didn't want to play for a losing rebuilding program didn't you guys understand?

[The Oracle]

We need players who have great skills obviously, but we also need players who are willing to talk trash and get dirty on the field.  However, you just can't switch it on, you need a few players who know how to do that so the rest can learn.   Bryce would have been a great help to our team in helping build that. 

It sure didn't help his high school team win games.  But maybe Big XII teams would be more intimidated by the No. 1 Rivals recruit in the nation.  

The next time you chat with Terry you should ask him about the difference between confidence and arrogance and which quality he would prefer in a teammate.

Neither did Josh Freeman, but what would Josh been like with at least something of a arrogant attitude?

He and I both know the different between arrogance and confidence.   That isn't the issue.  The issue is getting this talent on K-State.  If it means I need to deal with a little arrogance, so be it.

I don't think Josh would have been any better.  He is already supremely confident in himself.  The only doubts he had were about the people around him.  I don't think it would have helped even a little bit if he would have spent more time talking trash on the field. 

 

I disagree.  Josh isn't all that great and has been, at best inconsistent in his career.   He didn't act like the leader he needed to be on the field very well.  Had he done so, he might have challenged his defense to step up when they failed miserably so often.

The few games I saw, he was one of the few worth a damn on that side of the ball. He had no running game and was basically throwing to intramural type wide receivers and, yet, put up pretty strong numbers.

Defense was the real issue. However, I can't remember a situation where a player has called out the other side of the ball and it led to better things. Look at how Dallas is imploding with Terrance Newman (I know he is a KSU great), among other defensive players, calling out Romo for nailing Jessica in Cabo and that it killed their playoff chances in 2007. Like he wouldn't have taken a run at that. She was complete molten ;ava hot then (and white). It is full blown civil war between the "O" and "D" here. The Cowboys are done!

[Cem Blasoflas]

I disagree.  Josh isn't all that great and has been, at best inconsistent in his career.   He didn't act like the leader he needed to be on the field very well.  Had he done so, he might have challenged his defense to step up when they failed miserably so often.

You think Bryce Brown would be a leader on the field?  He certainly showed that he is not a leader on his high school team.  All he showed was that he had the ability to be a great running back.

Arrogance does not equal leadership.

Not always true.  A good leader will always have some arrogance, and will lead by example.  The point is the same, we could have used his talent.  Not sure his arrogance would have have been a hindrance .

I'll admit this:  He would have been a much larger hindrance to a Ron Prince staff.  There is always the chance that he would turn into a special player with good coaching and he should know that Snyder wouldn't hesitate to kick him to the curb if he wasn't good for the team (probably with a baseball autographed by Mickey Mantle). 

I bet in the long run, it would have been better for Bryce to come to KSU than to go play for a brand new young coach at Tennessee.  He had more to gain here than we had to lose, and I doubt it affects KSU much at all. 

We'll see how he turns out.  I do wish him the best of luck.