frank martin

[fatty fat fat]

let's say our coach (frank martin) wins the rest of his big 12 regular season games, and finishes with 20 wins in his first two seasons.

There are 3 coaches in the history of the big 12 to finish with more, and two that also had 20 their first 2 years. Name them.

[Pike]

Self and Barnes?

Just a guess

[doom]

self...  gilespie?  

[Pike]

Self and Barnes?

Just a guess

and Roy maybe

[doom]

Self and Barnes?

Just a guess

and Roy maybe

Big 12

[Skipper44]

more:
self
barnes
Larry E and his motorhome


same:
billy clyde
RMK

[QuinnMac]

Self and Barnes?

Just a guess

and Roy maybe

don't believe so.

Edit: didn't read all the way through.

Self and Barnes?

Just a guess

and Roy maybe

Big 12

[Prince McJunkins]

Self, Barnes, Eustachy?

[omahawildcat]

let's say our coach (frank martin) wins the rest of his big 12 regular season games, and finishes with 20 wins in his first two seasons.

There are 3 coaches in the history of the big 12 to finish with more, and two that also had 20 their first 2 years. Name them.

Let's say that he doesn't win the rest of the big 12 regular season games or tourney games, Isn't that the only way he finishes with 20 wins?

[fatty fat fat]

Here is the entire list

Roy Williams(97-98): 30
Rick Barnes (99-00): 26
Seff (04-05): 24
Kelvin Sampson (97-98): 20
Larry Eustachy (99-00): 20
Quin Snyder (00-01): 19
Frank Martin (08-09): 18*
Ricardo Patton (97-98): 18
Eddie Sutton (97-98): 18
Danny Nee (97-98): 17
James Dickey (97-98): 17
Tom Penders (97-98): 16
Wayne Morgan (04-05): 16
Bob Knight (02-03): 16
Mark Turgeon (08-09): 15*
Tim Floyd (97-98): 15
Jeff Capel (06-07): 15
Harry Miller (97-98): 14
Norm Stewart (97-98): 13
Barry Collier (01-02): 13
Sean Sutton (07-08): 13
Mike Anderson (06-07): 13
Doc Sadler (06-07): 13
Greg Mcdermott (06-07): 10
Jim Wooldridge (01-02): 10
Tom Asbury (97-98): 10
Dave Bliss (00-01): 10
Melvin Watkins (99-00): 9
Tony Barone (97-98): 4
Jeff Bzzdelik (08-09): 4*

*active

Feel free to use that, local beat writers if frank hits 20.

the SLTH line seems to be around 14.

[sys]

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/goodmanonfox/2009/03/01/THREE_TOP_FROSH_MAY_BE_WATCHING_THE_MADNESS

another perspective on other coaches failing to equal martin's achievements.  incredible that he had last year's team playing so well.

[Pett]

Roy Williams(97-98): 30

and no national championship?

[ksu_FAN]

On a related note; past 3 year Big 12 records.

ku 40-6
UT 33-13
KSU 28-18
aTm 28-18
OU 27-19
MU 24-22
OSU 21-25
NU 19-27
BU 18-28
TT 18-28
ISU 13-33
CU 7-39

[yosh]

Drew's ability to squander talent is really impressive.  He's kinda so opposite of SLTH, that he comes full circle to a SLTH.  Bizarro-SLTH?   

[WilliesToeNail]

Sometimes I think when Frank mentiones "youth" and Young guys" when describing  why we lose in his post game anal-lysis, I think he is really thinking "suckiness" and "lack of talent". Just a thought.

[Stupid Fitz]

On a related note; past 3 year Big 12 records.

ku 40-6
UT 33-13
KSU 28-18
aTm 28-18
OU 27-19
MU 24-22
OSU 21-25
NU 19-27
BU 18-28
TT 18-28
ISU 13-33
CU 7-39

we are such a bball school. 

[jscatfan]

People said the same crap about Ron Prince

[nebraska jayhawk's sock]

I didnt realize that Martin was Cuban.  Did you guys know that?  First generation too. 

[doom]

People said the same crap about Ron Prince

&@#% you.  

Sometimes I think when Frank mentiones "youth" and Young guys" when describing  why we lose in his post game anal-lysis, I think he is really thinking "suckiness" and "lack of talent". Just a thought.

Or just thinking about Jamar's retarded fouls and Pullen's shot selections in clutch time.  

[jscatfan]

People said the same crap about Ron Prince

frack you.  

Sometimes I think when Frank mentiones "youth" and Young guys" when describing  why we lose in his post game anal-lysis, I think he is really thinking "suckiness" and "lack of talent". Just a thought.

Or just thinking about Jamar's retarded fouls and Pullen's shot selections in clutch time.  

Im not saying that he isnt going to pan out, but this mirrors ron prince, gets the big time recruit(freeman) and first year is the best, downhill after that...i hope it doesnt turn out the same

[michigancat]

jscatfan is taking a trip down wtfsville lane.

[cas]

Prince and Martin are total opposites.

[MOKSUAZ]

People said the same crap about Ron Prince

frack you.  

Sometimes I think when Frank mentiones "youth" and Young guys" when describing  why we lose in his post game anal-lysis, I think he is really thinking "suckiness" and "lack of talent". Just a thought.

Or just thinking about Jamar's retarded fouls and Pullen's shot selections in clutch time.  

Im not saying that he isnt going to pan out, but this mirrors ron prince, gets the big time recruit(freeman) and first year is the best, downhill after that...i hope it doesnt turn out the same

RP never had a DHill on his staff getting him pimped out 'cruits so this convo is null and void.

[kougar24]

jscatfan is taking a trip down wtfsville lane.

Yeah. I mean, you don't have to go past basic math to destroy his comparison to Prince.

[jscatfan]

Prince and Martin are total opposites.

yeah I must have forgotten the whole football/basketball thing...

[cas]

Prince and Martin are total opposites.

yeah I must have forgotten the whole football/basketball thing...

And the whole part about Frank actually accomplishing something. Also, Prince was a talker (d'bag) Martin is &@#%ing man of action (will physically harm you if need be).

[ednksu]

People said the same crap about Ron Prince

Frank 'cruits >>>>>>>notenoughspaceever>>>>>ron 'cruits

[doom]

Prince and Martin are total opposites.

yeah I must have forgotten the whole football/basketball thing...

[AzCat]

Or just thinking about Jamar's retarded fouls ....  

The body check on Eaton in the 2nd half makes up for all the rest.