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March 22, 2009, 06:13:40 PM
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March 22, 2009, 06:32:53 PM
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What pissed me off the most about this series was the pitching.  No just the number of pitches for hits but the fact no adjustments were made to the strike zone all weekend.  The umps clearly had no interest in calling outside and high and low strikes.  In fact every pitched that went inside seemed like a strike.  Yet we continued to pitch into the dirt.  Terrible job by our pitching coach and not see a basic part of the strike zone. 

Hey their buddy don't blame the umpires blame the Dumb@$$ calling the game for us. No wonder missouri got rid of this guy.  :thumbsup:

You misunderstand me, I blame the umps for crap bock calls and blown calls at first.  I blame our pitching coach for not telling our guys to get it out of the dirt and put it inside where everything was a strike. 


You don't think the guys were keeping it in the dirt to lessen the # of homers that were hit?
Yeah, through it down the pipe and see just how many Homers OU can hit.

March 22, 2009, 06:52:08 PM
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What pissed me off the most about this series was the pitching.  No just the number of pitches for hits but the fact no adjustments were made to the strike zone all weekend.  The umps clearly had no interest in calling outside and high and low strikes.  In fact every pitched that went inside seemed like a strike.  Yet we continued to pitch into the dirt.  Terrible job by our pitching coach and not see a basic part of the strike zone. 

Hey their buddy don't blame the umpires blame the Dumb@$$ calling the game for us. No wonder missouri got rid of this guy.  :thumbsup:

You misunderstand me, I blame the umps for crap bock calls and blown calls at first.  I blame our pitching coach for not telling our guys to get it out of the dirt and put it inside where everything was a strike. 


You don't think the guys were keeping it in the dirt to lessen the # of homers that were hit?
Yeah, through it down the pipe and see just how many Homers OU can hit.

they were in the dirt all weekend.  The first ump was a bit nicer to us. They should have put some stuff inside, when the did it was strikes.  Everything low was a ball no matter what. 
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March 22, 2009, 06:55:01 PM
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March 23, 2009, 08:50:49 AM
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oh I forgot the double play in the 5th inning when OU doubled us up.   Clearly was no where near a tag on base or man at second and got called out.  Had one play at first in the 6th I think where we beat the throw and got called out an another when it went foul on a bloop shot to first and was called fair.  The blue on the base jumped, turned his back and still managed to see the ball.   

I may be off on the innings but we got jobbed. 

Biggest problem was our pitchers not changing their approach.  The ump was calling anything low for OU as a ball, and everything inside as a strike.  We should have moved up and in in the middle of the game but didn't until 7,8 and 9. 
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March 23, 2009, 08:51:49 AM
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Did anyone else really hate that bock call?

I thought it was a dickhead call. I also thought the check swing that the first base ump called a strike on us was a dickhead call.

I'm sitting on the 1st base side tomorrow just in case the same guy is there again.
Replay showed it to be a balk





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March 23, 2009, 10:22:53 PM
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Did anyone else really hate that bock call?

I thought it was a dickhead call. I also thought the check swing that the first base ump called a strike on us was a dickhead call.

I'm sitting on the 1st base side tomorrow just in case the same guy is there again.
Replay showed it to be a balk

I will say this, I am very unclear as to how college calls their balks.  I thought once you were in your wind up committed to home it was all or nothing.  I thought that included lifting the leg for the wind up. 

Some one with HBBIQ please give a detailed analysis for all of us lbbiq peoples.  please.
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March 24, 2009, 12:32:26 AM
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Did anyone else really hate that bock call?

I thought it was a dickhead call. I also thought the check swing that the first base ump called a strike on us was a dickhead call.

I'm sitting on the 1st base side tomorrow just in case the same guy is there again.
Replay showed it to be a balk

I will say this, I am very unclear as to how college calls their balks.  I thought once you were in your wind up committed to home it was all or nothing.  I thought that included lifting the leg for the wind up. 

Some one with HBBIQ please give a detailed analysis for all of us lbbiq peoples.  please.

Didn't get to see this play, but I do have a fairly HBIQ. 

From the Windup Position, the pitcher may:
(1) deliver the ball to the batter, or
(2) step and throw to a base in an attempt to pick-off a runner, or
(3) disengage the rubber (if he does he must drop his hand to his sides).
In disengaging the rubber the pitcher must step off with his pivot foot and not his free foot first.
He may not go into a set or stretch position—if he does it is a balk

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/pitcher_8.jsp

Not sure if that helps at all.

March 24, 2009, 11:39:06 AM
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Did anyone else really hate that bock call?

I thought it was a dickhead call. I also thought the check swing that the first base ump called a strike on us was a dickhead call.

I'm sitting on the 1st base side tomorrow just in case the same guy is there again.
Replay showed it to be a balk

I will say this, I am very unclear as to how college calls their balks.  I thought once you were in your wind up committed to home it was all or nothing.  I thought that included lifting the leg for the wind up. 

Some one with HBBIQ please give a detailed analysis for all of us lbbiq peoples.  please.
REFERENCE: 2008 NCAA Baseball Rules & Interpretations

From this position, any natural movement associated with the delivery
of the ball to the batter commits the pitcher to pitch without interruption or
alteration. The pitcher shall not raise either foot from the ground, except that
in the actual delivery of the ball to the batter, the pitcher may take one step
backward or sideward and one step forward with the free foot.
PENALTY—Warning on first offense. Illegal pitch shall be called on
subsequent offenses.

(1) A pitcher may assume the wind-up position with:
(a) hands together
in front of the body,
(b) hands apart (both arms or the throwing arm
at the pitcher’s side) and then go directly into the delivery to the
plate,
(c) hands apart and then bring the hands together and come to
a stop to adjust the grip on the ball before beginning the delivery to
the plate.

From these positions the pitcher may:
(a) Deliver the ball to the batter;
(b) Step and throw to a base in an attempt to pick off a runner; or
(c) Disengage from the pitching rubber by stepping back off the
rubber and placing the the pivot foot on the ground behind the
rubber before separating the hands or stepping back with the free
foot.
(2) With a runner on base, the pitcher shall pitch to the batter immediately
after making any motion with any part of the body such as the pitcher
habitually uses during the delivery.
(3) With a runner on base, the pitcher may disengage from the rubber as
long as no natural pitching motion with the body, legs or free foot has
been started.
(4) With a runner on base, the pitcher may throw to that base without
first disengaging the pivot foot from the rubber as long as no natural
pitching motion has been started.
(5) The pitcher cannot move from the wind-up position to the set
position without disengaging the pivot foot from the rubber.
(6) The pitcher must step directly and gain ground toward a base in an
attempt to pick off a runner. “Directly” is interpreted to mean within
a 45-degree angle measuring from the pivot foot toward the base the
pitcher is throwing to or feinting a throw.

(7) A pitcher, when stepping off the rubber, shall not drop the heel of the
free foot before disengaging the pivot foot from the rubber.


He was well past 45 degrees and that's why that balk was called.





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March 24, 2009, 02:27:39 PM
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You know I'm tired of this B.S. throwing curves and changes.No man I want the attitude that are pitchers are going to come at you with are best stuff. An if they hit it move it down a bit.
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March 24, 2009, 02:48:07 PM
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You know I'm tired of this B.S. throwing curves and changes.No man I want the attitude that are pitchers are going to come at you with are best stuff. An if they hit it move it down a bit.

Kinda like me and my "Only Bomb it from 3" stance in hoops I guess.
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March 24, 2009, 04:06:54 PM
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NO way.

What ksu needs is an army of knuckleballers.

We need the junkiest pitchers around.  Would be great to watch us throw out screwgies, spitters, and knucklers. 

Never a fastball over 80 mph again.

March 24, 2009, 04:09:17 PM
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NO way.

What ksu needs is an army of knuckleballers.

We need the junkiest pitchers around.  Would be great to watch us throw out screwgies, spitters, and knucklers. 

Never a fastball over 80 mph again.

now this i can get on board with

March 24, 2009, 07:51:49 PM
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NO way.

What ksu needs is an army of knuckleballers.

We need the junkiest pitchers around.  Would be great to watch us throw out screwgies, spitters, and knucklers. 

Never a fastball over 80 mph again.



Got a screwgie?


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March 24, 2009, 08:42:06 PM
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NO way.

What ksu needs is an army of knuckleballers.

We need the junkiest pitchers around.  Would be great to watch us throw out screwgies, spitters, and knucklers. 

Never a fastball over 80 mph again.

Good news = no one on this staff consistently throws much higher than 80
Bad News = they can't throw much junk either

March 24, 2009, 09:18:57 PM
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Terrible win for the cats tonight.  5th inning sucked donkey balls.  crappy pics to follow.
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March 24, 2009, 09:22:45 PM
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March 24, 2009, 09:23:57 PM
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March 24, 2009, 09:32:36 PM
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so back to the fif inning.  Terrible errors by 2nd basemen in a rundown with the 3rd basemen and the first basemen.  Both were terrible catching errors from not making a basic play.  

Rundown, hit to pitcher and tossed to the third basemen.  Then the rundown started.  Basic toss back and forth and then the 2nd basemen goes to tag and just drops the ball.  Runner is safe at second and now first.  

Later in the 5th, play at first and we blow the basic catch.  It was a quick throw to him but he was setup for it and did make the play.  3 runs in the 5th off of 2 errors.


Get a run in the 6th to make it 3-1.  Get another 2 run in the 8th off a home run.  9th inning, second pitch, lefty on righty match up and Biery smashes a walk off home run deep right.  
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March 24, 2009, 10:01:41 PM
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quarter dog night too, due to the weather no line, no limit..  :lick: needless to say RonLonggie filled up on those things.

March 24, 2009, 10:12:51 PM
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quarter dog night too, due to the weather no line, no limit..  :lick: needless to say RonLonggie filled up on those things.

please list seating location


I was second row behind the end of home plate netting on the steelies.  Some bitches stole my first row seats  :angryMJ: :angryMJ: :angryMJ: :angryMJ:
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March 24, 2009, 10:18:05 PM
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quarter dog night too, due to the weather no line, no limit..  :lick: needless to say RonLonggie filled up on those things.

please list seating location


I was second row behind the end of home plate netting on the steelies.  Some bitches stole my first row seats  :angryMJ: :angryMJ: :angryMJ: :angryMJ:

far north side on the "steelies" was not there for long, roommate was being a Fin pussy and was bitching about being cold  :bitchslap:

normally on 1st baseline fence though (when i can make it)

March 24, 2009, 10:20:32 PM
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I'm seriously thinking we need a katpakr at a game. 
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March 25, 2009, 08:11:12 AM
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I'm seriously thinking we need a katpakr at a game. 

Would be good for baseball because you don't really miss anything if you get really caught up in the usual katpak convos (i.e. poster hot or not, etc.). 
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March 25, 2009, 09:44:01 PM
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I'm seriously thinking we need a katpakr at a game. 

Would be good for baseball because you don't really miss anything if you get really caught up in the usual katpak convos (i.e. poster hot or not, etc.). 

how dare you sir
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March 25, 2009, 09:48:15 PM
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another gut wrenching win for the bat katz.  Got there late but saw the damage.  the starting pitching and early relief got shelled for 7 runs.  Nice to see our bats wake up a bit to bring us back.  12-8 was the final with some solid hitting in the second half of the game. 

still don't understand our decision to bunt all the time.  2 outs in the 6th or 7th inning and we decided to but with someone not named dane yelovich.  Seems like we should be bunting with less outs in that situation when we are already hitting their pitcher pretty well. 
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March 25, 2009, 09:52:23 PM
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Our pitching is horrendous outside of 2 guys... This will be a major problem if this team wants to get to regional playoffs... We can't keep giving up 6-8 runs a night and expect to win...

March 25, 2009, 09:53:35 PM
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another gut wrenching win for the bat katz.  Got there late but saw the damage.  the starting pitching and early relief got shelled for 7 runs.  Nice to see our bats wake up a bit to bring us back.  12-8 was the final with some solid hitting in the second half of the game. 

still don't understand our decision to bunt all the time.  2 outs in the 6th or 7th inning and we decided to but with someone not named dane yelovich.  Seems like we should be bunting with less outs in that situation when we are already hitting their pitcher pretty well. 

we won seriously??? left when it was 7-0 and never stepped outside again to see the score figured we were "dead in the water"

call me a fair weather fan.

March 25, 2009, 10:04:30 PM
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The part that a lot of baseball fans have a problem realizing is that anyone that can throw hard is probably in the professional ranks.  If a kid can come out of high school throwing low to mid 90's hes got millions thrown at him, why go to a college and possibly screw all of that up.  Instead of heat you get a lot of kids that have mid to high 80's fastballs and weak offspeed pitches.  Eventually the good ones will develop the essential pitches and when to throw them.  In college the best pitchers are either at elites or is trying to develop more speed and a good offspead pitch.

Another thing people have a hard time realizing is that coaches aren't near as good as in the professional ranks.  When I was with the royals they stuck some of the best coaches as feild coordinators and double a or triple a coaches to "coach them up" but in college you can hit or miss with a coach.
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March 25, 2009, 10:20:43 PM
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The part that a lot of baseball fans have a problem realizing is that anyone that can throw hard is probably in the professional ranks.  If a kid can come out of high school throwing low to mid 90's hes got millions thrown at him, why go to a college and possibly screw all of that up.  Instead of heat you get a lot of kids that have mid to high 80's fastballs and weak offspeed pitches.  Eventually the good ones will develop the essential pitches and when to throw them.  In college the best pitchers are either at elites or is trying to develop more speed and a good offspead pitch.

Another thing people have a hard time realizing is that coaches aren't near as good as in the professional ranks.  When I was with the royals they stuck some of the best coaches as feild coordinators and double a or triple a coaches to "coach them up" but in college you can hit or miss with a coach.

anyone who knows sports knows the farm system has killed the college game.  College football and basketball are the farm systems for their respective leagues. 
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