Lost

[cireksu]

Do any of you guys read Wired?  This month's magazine was put together by JJ Abrams.  It has all kinds of hidden puzzles and stuff in it.  Kinda interesting.  Sorry if this was discussed in this thread (to lazy to check and see).

the mag was an easter egg in one of the latest epi's.  had the fans buzzing.

[catzacker]

is jack ever right about anything?  he's one complete f up after f up.*



*this opinion is subject to change once f'ing 2010 rolls around and we find out what that bomb did....christ I can't wait that long. 

[doom]

is jack ever right about anything?  he's one complete f up after f up.*



*this opinion is subject to change once f'ing 2010 rolls around and we find out what that bomb did....christ I can't wait that long. 

No.  He just saved Jacob. 

[catdude33]

Let's get some serious discussion going here.

[catzacker]

is jack ever right about anything?  he's one complete f up after f up.*



*this opinion is subject to change once f'ing 2010 rolls around and we find out what that bomb did....christ I can't wait that long. 

No.  He just saved Jacob. 

 

[doom]

Let's get some serious discussion going here.

If Jack stopped the incident then the present where Jacob is killed never happens. 

[catdude33]

Someone plz explain what happened the last 5 min.  I can't figure it out.   

[catzacker]

Let's get some serious discussion going here.

If Jack stopped the incident then the present where Jacob is killed never happens. 

i'm curious how they'll write/show what happens if you can actually change things.

[catzacker]

Someone plz explain what happened the last 5 min.  I can't figure it out.   

Locke is dead....that one guy who was sitting with Jacob on the beach at the beginning, like, somehow got into Locke's body (how the hell I have no idea...they mentioned getting into the "loop") in order to kill Jacob.  That dude on the beach with Jacob said something like "do you know how bad I want to kill you right now?" at the beginning of the 1st hour.

i have no idea what Jacob meant when he said "coming" before "Locke" kicked him into the fire.

[doom]

Someone plz explain what happened the last 5 min.  I can't figure it out.   

So they guy from the beginning of the episode finally found a way to get Jacob killed and did it.  But as Jacob died he let out a big eff you and told the guy that he basically had set it up so that none of it had ever happened.  Jack and Co blowing the nuke assured that none of them had ever been there making it impossible to be where Ben and John were to kill Jacob.  That is why Jacob was throughout the episode guiding everyone's path.  He was setting up an out.  

Some of it's shaky, but that is what I get out of it.  Still need to find out who the other guy is.  

[catdude33]

Yeah I got that the dude at the beginning was "Locke" and that he finally found the loophole or whatever to kill Jacob.  But:

1.  Why did he want to kill Jacob?
2.  How did he look like Locke when Locke's body was lying on the beach dead?

I guess we'll find out in just 8 short months.   

[doom]

Yeah I got that the dude at the beginning was "Locke" and that he finally found the loophole or whatever to kill Jacob.  But:

1.  Why did he want to kill Jacob?
2.  How did he look like Locke when Locke's body was lying on the beach dead?

I guess we'll find out in just 8 short months.   

Remember that he did have Locke's memories too from some of his conversations with Ben like about the hatch door.  I do wish they would explain the blood lust toward Jacob and more or less tell us who he is.  But I think he got out of the dying part of it with what happened at the swan. 

[catzacker]

in the beginning their conversation sounded something like discussing an experiment where both knew how it was going to "end"....but Jacob believed things can be changed or rather that eventually you keep moving towards not the "end" (he referrred to it as progress).....then that mystery dude said something like "one day we'll/i'll find a loophole".  

I get the impression that the this is a constant time loop that has happened many times over with the same/similar results.  I dunno.

[cireksu]

The beginning scene reminded me of Greek mythology stories of the Gods plotting and controlling humans.

[Rick Daris]

I get the impression that the this is a constant time loop that has happened many times over with the same/similar results.  I dunno.

I kinda thought something like this too for a while. like groundhog day where bill murray keeps doing the day over and over again until he finally does well enough that he gets to sleep with andie mcdowell.

jacob is andie mcdowell, the other guy is bill murray and instead of hooking up with her he wants to kill him.

not sure who camera guy is-maybe jack. little kid who falls from the tree and never thanks bill murray is def sayid. have to think a little more about some of the others.

[jthutch]

Here are my first thouhts right after last nights show ended. 
Jacob = God
Other dood on island = satin before banishment to hell

Island = eden

Richard = Jesus? or a profit of some sort.

Faraday= profit

People on the island from plane crash = lost souls

Jacob has worked to bring these people to him to get them to believe.  Satin has been trying to get in the way of this happening.

These are just some of my thoughts haven't really put much thought into it.

[Stupid Fitz]

weird thing is that now who gives a frank about anyone other than Jacob and the other dude. It seems that all of the other seasons were fluff. Still wondering about Richard. Is he a real d00d or just one of the other d00dz "guiding" people for their awesome game of "life".

Also, where does Dez fit in all of this?

[cireksu]

I don't know neccessarily if it is God and Satan.  But they are some sort of Deities.

They are playing a chess match against eachother using people to manipulate an outcome.  The dark one acts like the outcome is inevitable, Jacob believes that eventually free will can change the outcome.

IMO the bomb going off did not happen before and now that it did it will change things some how.

[yoga-lika_abana]

1.  Why did he want to kill Jacob?
2.  How did he look like Locke when Locke's body was lying on the beach dead?

I guess we'll find out in just 8 short months.   

I think when he killed Jacob he was essentially killing what the Island currently was. I think he will now be in charge of the island unless whatever Jack did changed everything. And how he looked like Locke and had his memory

i have no idea what Jacob meant when he said "coming" before "Locke" kicked him into the fire.

I think he said "there coming" I don't know if he meant the group of the others and the "good guy group" or maybe something else.

[cireksu]

Also, who thinks the bomb was the incident?  I think that the bomb didn't go off before and will change things.  but me and  a coworker were arguing about that.

[doom]

1.  Why did he want to kill Jacob?
2.  How did he look like Locke when Locke's body was lying on the beach dead?

I guess we'll find out in just 8 short months.   

I think when he killed Jacob he was essentially killing what the Island currently was. I think he will now be in charge of the island unless whatever Jack did changed everything. And how he looked like Locke and had his memory

i have no idea what Jacob meant when he said "coming" before "Locke" kicked him into the fire.

I think he said "there coming" I don't know if he meant the group of the others and the "good guy group" or maybe something else.

I immediately thought of Jack when he said that. 

[BostonPancake]

Did anyone get the translation to the answer of "What lies in the shadow of the statue"?

Edit:  never mind...found it.

[yoga-lika_abana]

Did anyone get the translation to the answer of "What lies in the shadow of the statue"?

I wish tried googling it last night but to avail

[yoga-lika_abana]

Edit:  never mind...found it.

well

[BostonPancake]

Edit:  never mind...found it.

well

my bad.  It is "He who will save us all."

[catdude33]

Well, see ya later LOST thread.  I'll bump you in 8 months.

Miss you already.   

[ew2x4]

Here are my first thouhts right after last nights show ended. 
Jacob = God
Other dood on island = satin before banishment to hell

Island = eden

Richard = Jesus? or a profit of some sort.

Faraday= profit

People on the island from plane crash = lost souls

Jacob has worked to bring these people to him to get them to believe.  Satin has been trying to get in the way of this happening.

These are just some of my thoughts haven't really put much thought into it.

I was thinking the same thing, but Jacob=Jesus. The ending pretty much nailed that in. I'm guessing he will be resurrected and help the losties get everything all happy again.

[yoga-lika_abana]

anyone notice at the beginning of the epi. jacob was wearing white and the other guy was wearing black.
I think the other dood(whoever killed Jacob) and Ben are going to rule the island but whats going to happen with everyone that is in the present and everyone in the '70s. Anyone else think Widdmore will come back into the picture and play a bigger role?

[Rick Daris]

yeah, there's a lot of black/white symbolism throughout the show. pretty good discussion on phog about this episode and lost in general.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2488&t=4327442

[ksu_FAN]

Quite a season finale. 

Will be interesting to see the resolution of this in the final season.