Quote from: AzCat on November 29, 2008, 01:54:03 AMQuote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:52:01 AMQuote from: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:50:21 AMQuote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:49:27 AMQuote from: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:48:57 AMQuote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:46:42 AMand wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hilli really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man. no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. wally is only a 5 staras was jason bennettlol dude wally has ups, bennette was just fracking tallBennett was ranked on that sliding scale recruiting services used to rank Wooly's overseas guys. Subtract 2 1/2 stars if compariing JB to domestic talent. just naming 5 stars since he threw it out there. can't expect every 5 star we get/will get to be as productive as Beasley was as a freshman. i really, really hope i'm wrong, but Beasley was a special player and that '07 class was insane.
Quote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:52:01 AMQuote from: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:50:21 AMQuote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:49:27 AMQuote from: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:48:57 AMQuote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:46:42 AMand wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hilli really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man. no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. wally is only a 5 staras was jason bennettlol dude wally has ups, bennette was just fracking tallBennett was ranked on that sliding scale recruiting services used to rank Wooly's overseas guys. Subtract 2 1/2 stars if compariing JB to domestic talent.
Quote from: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:50:21 AMQuote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:49:27 AMQuote from: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:48:57 AMQuote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:46:42 AMand wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hilli really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man. no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. wally is only a 5 staras was jason bennettlol dude wally has ups, bennette was just fracking tall
Quote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:49:27 AMQuote from: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:48:57 AMQuote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:46:42 AMand wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hilli really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man. no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. wally is only a 5 staras was jason bennett
Quote from: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:48:57 AMQuote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:46:42 AMand wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hilli really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man. no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. wally is only a 5 star
Quote from: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:46:42 AMand wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hilli really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man. no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did.
and wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hill
about average age wise.
Quote from: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 01:56:51 AMabout average age wise.prob true. but all the supposed upgrades from this year will be young. cept kelly. they'll be better in '10-11, imo.
Quote from: sys on November 29, 2008, 01:59:31 AMQuote from: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 01:56:51 AMabout average age wise.prob true. but all the supposed upgrades from this year will be young. cept kelly. they'll be better in '10-11, imo.The loss of a veteran PG makes me hesitant to call '10-11 the golden year, IMO '09-10 will be better.
Quote from: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:00:49 AMQuote from: sys on November 29, 2008, 01:59:31 AMQuote from: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 01:56:51 AMabout average age wise.prob true. but all the supposed upgrades from this year will be young. cept kelly. they'll be better in '10-11, imo.The loss of a veteran PG makes me hesitant to call '10-11 the golden year, IMO '09-10 will be better.no way.
The loss of Denis will hurt a lot.
by then we'll have a suitable replacement. you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year.
Quote from: fatty fat fat on November 29, 2008, 02:03:48 AMby then we'll have a suitable replacement. you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year. Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.And you've gotta get worse eventually.
Quote from: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:05:13 AMQuote from: fatty fat fat on November 29, 2008, 02:03:48 AMby then we'll have a suitable replacement. you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year. Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.And you've gotta get worse eventually.what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)? Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.
i love clemente.
Quote from: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 02:07:32 AMQuote from: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:05:13 AMQuote from: fatty fat fat on November 29, 2008, 02:03:48 AMby then we'll have a suitable replacement. you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year. Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.And you've gotta get worse eventually.what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)? Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.It's not like I'm saying they'll tank in 10-11, I just don't think they'll be better than 09-10. Just my IMO dude, it's sort of impossible to prove it right or wrong.
Quote from: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:10:10 AMQuote from: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 02:07:32 AMQuote from: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:05:13 AMQuote from: fatty fat fat on November 29, 2008, 02:03:48 AMby then we'll have a suitable replacement. you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year. Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.And you've gotta get worse eventually.what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)? Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.It's not like I'm saying they'll tank in 10-11, I just don't think they'll be better than 09-10. Just my IMO dude, it's sort of impossible to prove it right or wrong.you completely underrated how much our 2009 recruiting class will get better after one season. And, we add the 2010 class as well. Think about it, we lose 1 legit player (den-clem) the next 2 years and we add up to 5 legit players.We'll be much better 2 years from now.
you completely underrated how much our 2009 recruiting class will get better after one season. And, we add the 2010 class as well. Think about it, we lose 1 legit player (den-clem) the next 2 years and we add up to 5 legit players.We'll be much better 2 years from now.
Quote from: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:10:10 AMQuote from: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 02:07:32 AMQuote from: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:05:13 AMQuote from: fatty fat fat on November 29, 2008, 02:03:48 AMby then we'll have a suitable replacement. you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year. Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.And you've gotta get worse eventually.what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)? Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.It's not like I'm saying they'll tank in 10-11, I just don't think they'll be better than 09-10. Just my IMO dude, it's sort of impossible to prove it right or wrong.not trying to attack you as it's only my opinion as well, but we're only a short way into this season. i think the fact that VMI beat Kentucky at their place and we lost to them really is pissing me off. time for a nappy nap to sleep it off like i did with the Snyder (re)hire.
Quote from: fatty fat fat on November 29, 2008, 02:11:53 AMyou completely underrated how much our 2009 recruiting class will get better after one season. And, we add the 2010 class as well. Think about it, we lose 1 legit player (den-clem) the next 2 years and we add up to 5 legit players.We'll be much better 2 years from now. I'm sorry, I'll consult the manual on improvements FUTURE players will make in the FUTURE next time. My bad.