First report on possible new OC/DC. Good news & bad news.

[Pett]

From Rivals:

Sounds like Chuck Long wants to take a year off to let SDSU pay him. Dana Dimel looks to be the front runner for OC.

As for DC, it looks like Vic Koenning is the front runner.

 

[KCcat28]

Does anyone have a full scoop on Dana Dimel? I haven't heard much about him. Also I don't look for either one of those choice to be head coaches in waiting... I am guessing Snyder plans to be around for a little while...

[SUPERKSUFAN]

Don't forget about Major Applewhite...I saw his name being tossed around today as well 

[Pett]

Does anyone have a full scoop on Dana Dimel?

Basically, we are going to let the TE's coach from a 6-5 UA team become our OC.

[Lynch]

So Bennett is out then?

[kst8cat]

Dana Dimel did a great job as HC at Wyoming (22-13 record).  Houston, not so much.  But I don't know why people seem to be down on him as an assistant coach.  I think he was a great assistant before and would be again especially with all that experience.

[KCcat28]

Found a Bio on a Clemson web site for Vic...

http://clemsontigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/koenning_vic00.html

[Pett]

Don't forget about Major Applewhite...I saw his name being tossed around today as well 

Hell, if we can't Venables then why not just go after Stoop's boy toy in Heupel.

Very promising young lad.

[KSU4ME]

From Rivals:

'nuff said.

[Pett]

From Rivals:

'nuff said.

Not from Fitz though man.

[~WabashRoll~]

I'm beginning to prepare myself for the underwhelmingess of the staff.

Dimel.  

Koenning.  

So that means, we'll end up with Dimel and some other 4rth or 5th choice at DC.

[KCcat28]

Can you link it?

[Legore]

The hate on Dimel is reallly misguided and bordering ignorant.  He's a proven coach that loves KSU and has Texas recruiting ties.  Remember he was head coach at Houston and despite not winning many games he recruited very well when he was down there.  Art Briles who replaced him won a lot of games with the kids he recruited. 

He'll be on the staff in some form people need to get used to that idea and he's a far more accomplished and qualified coach then anyone Prince had on his staff including Prince himself.  A lot of the credit for Arizona's improvement this year is credited to his influence on the offense.   Also remember in Snyder's last season he turned down BCS level assitant coaching positions to come work for Snyder for free as a GA. 

[michigancat]

Dimel would be fantastic.

[Pett]

Can you link it?

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=118273796&mid=118273796&sid=889&style=2

Looks like we're just taking Wyoming's sloppy leftovers though.

Dimel (1997-1999) 22-13 as Wyoming Head Coach

Koenning (2000-2003) 5-29 as Wyoming Head Coach.

^ Kind of hard to take right there.

[catchup]

A: I hate Rusty

B: It seems Dimel is the tie to Koening as well as possibly Greg Wolford who has been a recruiting machine at Illinois. Plus the only negative in his resume is Houston. If he is named HCIW then there may be something to gripe about but OC I think he is qualified.

[sonofdaxjones]

Come on now.

Dimel and Koenning combined have more D1 experience, more experience around decent to good programs and coaches (Snyder, Bowden, Stoops) and more time out on the trail recruiting legit BCS conference D1 talent than Ron Prince's entire lineup of coaching staffs over the last 3 years combined.

[KCcat28]

Once again I don't see either one of these coaches if hired being coaches in waiting... I think once Snyder hits his 3rd year under contract he hires a head coach in waiting... just my opinion.

[mjrod]

Come on now.

Dimel and Koenning combined have more D1 experience, more experience around decent to good programs and coaches (Snyder, Bowden, Stoops) and more time out on the trail recruiting legit BCS conference D1 talent than Ron Prince's entire lineup of coaching staffs over the last 3 years combined.

You can let go of Ron now.  I have.  

[mjrod]

Once again I don't see either one of these coaches if hired being coaches in waiting... I think once Snyder hits his 3rd year under contract he hires a head coach in waiting... just my opinion.

Perhaps, maybe not.   My impression from the news conference is that he'll be in it for the long haul.

And..

FWIW.. think BV.

[sonofdaxjones]

Come on now.

Dimel and Koenning combined have more D1 experience, more experience around decent to good programs and coaches (Snyder, Bowden, Stoops) and more time out on the trail recruiting legit BCS conference D1 talent than Ron Prince's entire lineup of coaching staffs over the last 3 years combined.

You can let go of Ron now.  I have.  

Look board nazi . . . i was just trying to make a point.

[mcmwcat]

Once again I don't see either one of these coaches if hired being coaches in waiting... I think once Snyder hits his 3rd year under contract he hires a head coach in waiting... just my opinion.

there will be no HCIW

[Legore]

Can you link it?

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=118273796&mid=118273796&sid=889&style=2

Looks like we're just taking Wyoming's sloppy leftovers though.

Dimel (1997-1999) 22-13 as Wyoming Head Coach

Koenning (2000-2003) 5-29 as Wyoming Head Coach.

^ Kind of hard to take right there.

yes except for the fact that neither would be a head coach here.  Not really sure how their head coaching record is all that relevant.  There are a ton of great cordinators that failed as head coaches and went back to being successful cordinators.   I'm not even sure Dimel will be OC but he'll be on the staff in some capacity.    

For those hating on the staff tell me do you think the guys Patterson has at tcu are better assitants then these guys?  I wanted Patterson as bad as the next guy but whatever staff Snyder brings will be better then the mid major staff Pattesron would have insisted on bringing.    

[mjrod]

Come on now.

Dimel and Koenning combined have more D1 experience, more experience around decent to good programs and coaches (Snyder, Bowden, Stoops) and more time out on the trail recruiting legit BCS conference D1 talent than Ron Prince's entire lineup of coaching staffs over the last 3 years combined.

You can let go of Ron now.  I have.  

Look board nazi . . . i was just trying to make a point.

Isn't there some thread on a ku board you need to be watching?

 

[michigancat]

In all honesty, why is Chuck Long a good pick for OC and Dana Dimel is a poor one?

[KCcat28]

Once again I don't see either one of these coaches if hired being coaches in waiting... I think once Snyder hits his 3rd year under contract he hires a head coach in waiting... just my opinion.

there will be no HCIW

Maybe so I am just sayin that I think people are nervous that if these 2 people are hired that they are the future after Snyder. I am just saying that I don't think that is the case...

[sonofdaxjones]

In all honesty, why is Chuck Long a good pick for OC and Dana Dimel is a poor one?

He's not . . . Chuck was encouraged, highly encouraged to pursue that SDSU job by Bobby Stoops.  

"Say ah Chuck, I really see you out there at San Diego State, I think you'll be a great fit . . . so ah, you know, I've already contacted them and set up and interview for you".

[sonofdaxjones]

Come on now.

Dimel and Koenning combined have more D1 experience, more experience around decent to good programs and coaches (Snyder, Bowden, Stoops) and more time out on the trail recruiting legit BCS conference D1 talent than Ron Prince's entire lineup of coaching staffs over the last 3 years combined.

You can let go of Ron now.  I have.  

Look board nazi . . . i was just trying to make a point.

Isn't there some thread on a ku board you need to be watching?

 

I am on alert for when Rusty goes over there to glory hole.

[Pett]

Come on now.

Dimel and Koenning combined have more D1 experience, more experience around decent to good programs and coaches (Snyder, Bowden, Stoops) and more time out on the trail recruiting legit BCS conference D1 talent than Ron Prince's entire lineup of coaching staffs over the last 3 years combined.

Recruiting man!!! Recruiting!!!

Dimel:

Absolutely no one: http://arizona.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?coach=1792&Sport=1

Koenning:

Absolutely no one: http://clemson.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?coach=236&Sport=1

Right now I'd definitely take Franklin back as OC. Because, atleast he could recruit.

[michigancat]

Come on now.

Dimel and Koenning combined have more D1 experience, more experience around decent to good programs and coaches (Snyder, Bowden, Stoops) and more time out on the trail recruiting legit BCS conference D1 talent than Ron Prince's entire lineup of coaching staffs over the last 3 years combined.

Recruiting man!!! Recruiting!!!

Dimel:

Absolutely no one: http://arizona.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?coach=1792&Sport=1

Koenning:

Absolutely no one: http://clemson.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?coach=236&Sport=1

Right now I'd definitely take Franklin back as OC. Because, atleast he could recruit.

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=34315.0

Who does Chuck Long have?