Pinkle on Snyder

[michigancat]

Why would Phil Bennett come here, MJ?

I didn't say Phil Bennet was coming here.

[CatsNChiefs]

Why would Phil Bennett come here, MJ?

I didn't say Phil Bennet was coming here.

Whiffed pretty hard on that one.

[fatty fat fat]

phil bennett insanely massive failure @ smu shows he cannot bring talent in.

[mjrod]

yeah snyder led the greatest turnaround in college football history because we magically had super talented teams that made up for his sucky coaching

yes.  maybe not sucky coaching, but he had super talented teams when he won at levels that no one (or relatively few) in the country did.  a lot of teams win 7-9 games, not too many win 11 games for as many years as Bill did, but it wasn't because he was "coaching up" Mark Simoneau. 

 

Seriously, you and Rusty are the two most illiterate posters when it comes to football.

If Simoneau was so good, who else was recruiting him?

that's the point you f'ing jack ass................WHO THE F*CK DID BILL GET TO REPLACE THE GUYS WHO FOUND SIMONEAU?

I don't know.. Phil Bennett?

Stop being a moron.

stoops/leavitt>m.Stoops>bennett>elliott
mangino>dunn>stanley
venables>gush<beilma>cosh

...see the trend?  I'm fine with bill if he can identify the next stoops, venables, mangino and get them on staff.  I just don't think he can/will.  

Because...??

[michigancat]

yeah snyder led the greatest turnaround in college football history because we magically had super talented teams that made up for his sucky coaching

yes.  maybe not sucky coaching, but he had super talented teams when he won at levels that no one (or relatively few) in the country did.  a lot of teams win 7-9 games, not too many win 11 games for as many years as Bill did, but it wasn't because he was "coaching up" Mark Simoneau. 

 

Seriously, you and Rusty are the two most illiterate posters when it comes to football.

If Simoneau was so good, who else was recruiting him?

that's the point you f'ing jack ass................WHO THE F*CK DID BILL GET TO REPLACE THE GUYS WHO FOUND SIMONEAU?

I don't know.. Phil Bennett?

Stop being a moron.

stoops/leavitt>m.Stoops>bennett>elliott
mangino>dunn>stanley
venables>gush<beilma>cosh

...see the trend?  I'm fine with bill if he can identify the next stoops, venables, mangino and get them on staff.  I just don't think he can/will.  

Because...??

Because he failed to late in his career.

[mjrod]

yeah snyder led the greatest turnaround in college football history because we magically had super talented teams that made up for his sucky coaching

yes.  maybe not sucky coaching, but he had super talented teams when he won at levels that no one (or relatively few) in the country did.  a lot of teams win 7-9 games, not too many win 11 games for as many years as Bill did, but it wasn't because he was "coaching up" Mark Simoneau. 

 

Seriously, you and Rusty are the two most illiterate posters when it comes to football.

If Simoneau was so good, who else was recruiting him?

that's the point you f'ing jack ass................WHO THE F*CK DID BILL GET TO REPLACE THE GUYS WHO FOUND SIMONEAU?

I don't know.. Phil Bennett?

Stop being a moron.

stoops/leavitt>m.Stoops>bennett>elliott
mangino>dunn>stanley
venables>gush<beilma>cosh

...see the trend?  I'm fine with bill if he can identify the next stoops, venables, mangino and get them on staff.  I just don't think he can/will.  

Because...??

Because he failed to late in his career.

You're retarded.

[mjrod]

phil bennett insanely massive failure @ smu shows he cannot bring talent in.

Yeah, he only went to Pitt and helped their defense become one of the best in the Big East.. I mean, yeah, the man is incredibly bad.. like Dan McCarney at Florida.

Please, just shut up.

[fatty fat fat]

Please, just shut up.

 

[michigancat]

You're retarded.

^Exc. counterpoint.

phil bennett insanely massive failure @ smu shows he cannot bring talent in.

Yeah, he only went to Pitt and helped their defense become one of the best in the Big East.. I mean, yeah, the man is incredibly bad.. like Dan McCarney at Florida.

Please, just shut up.

Actually, their defense got worse when he got there.

1st in 2007:

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/ranking_summary/2007000000545.HTML


5th in 2008:

http://web1.ncaa.org/football/exec/rankingSummary?year=2008&org=545

[tmramrod91]

phil bennett insanely massive failure @ smu shows he cannot bring talent in.

Yeah, he only went to Pitt and helped their defense become one of the best in the Big East.. I mean, yeah, the man is incredibly bad.. like Dan McCarney at Florida.

Please, just shut up.

this

[catzacker]

yeah snyder led the greatest turnaround in college football history because we magically had super talented teams that made up for his sucky coaching

yes.  maybe not sucky coaching, but he had super talented teams when he won at levels that no one (or relatively few) in the country did.  a lot of teams win 7-9 games, not too many win 11 games for as many years as Bill did, but it wasn't because he was "coaching up" Mark Simoneau. 

 

Seriously, you and Rusty are the two most illiterate posters when it comes to football.

If Simoneau was so good, who else was recruiting him?

that's the point you f'ing jack ass................WHO THE F*CK DID BILL GET TO REPLACE THE GUYS WHO FOUND SIMONEAU?

I don't know.. Phil Bennett?

Stop being a moron.

stoops/leavitt>m.Stoops>bennett>elliott
mangino>dunn>stanley
venables>gush<beilma>cosh

...see the trend?  I'm fine with bill if he can identify the next stoops, venables, mangino and get them on staff.  I just don't think he can/will.  

Because...??

ummm...because, as illustrated above, as time passed he has shown that the can't/couldn't/didn't.  

[catzacker]

You're retarded.

^Exc. counterpoint.

phil bennett insanely massive failure @ smu shows he cannot bring talent in.

Yeah, he only went to Pitt and helped their defense become one of the best in the Big East.. I mean, yeah, the man is incredibly bad.. like Dan McCarney at Florida.

Please, just shut up.

Actually, their defense got worse when he got there.

1st in 2007:

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/ranking_summary/2007000000545.HTML


5th in 2008:

http://web1.ncaa.org/football/exec/rankingSummary?year=2008&org=545

Rusty, shut up, dude.  It's Bill Snyder.  Bill fracking Snyder.  Let me repeat, it's Bill Snyder.  Again, it's Bill Snyder.

[mjrod]

You're retarded.

^Exc. counterpoint.

You didn't have a point, just made some stupid ass remark.  You got one back. 

phil bennett insanely massive failure @ smu shows he cannot bring talent in.

Yeah, he only went to Pitt and helped their defense become one of the best in the Big East.. I mean, yeah, the man is incredibly bad.. like Dan McCarney at Florida.

Please, just shut up.

Actually, their defense got worse when he got there.

1st in 2007:

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/ranking_summary/2007000000545.HTML


5th in 2008:

http://web1.ncaa.org/football/exec/rankingSummary?year=2008&org=545

Yeah, with two games left and an obvious bowl game.  No, Bennett doesn't help at all.

 

[michigancat]

Yeah, with two games left and an obvious bowl game.  No, Bennett doesn't help at all.

 

Yes, we should look for those defensive numbers to improve dramatically after playing Noel Devine and Pat White.

[catzacker]

Yeah, with two games left and an obvious bowl game.  No, Bennett doesn't help at all.

 

Yes, we should look for those defensive numbers to improve dramatically after playing Noel Devine and Pat White.

Rusty, it's Bill Snyder.  Bill Snyder.

[mjrod]

yeah snyder led the greatest turnaround in college football history because we magically had super talented teams that made up for his sucky coaching

yes.  maybe not sucky coaching, but he had super talented teams when he won at levels that no one (or relatively few) in the country did.  a lot of teams win 7-9 games, not too many win 11 games for as many years as Bill did, but it wasn't because he was "coaching up" Mark Simoneau. 

 

Seriously, you and Rusty are the two most illiterate posters when it comes to football.

If Simoneau was so good, who else was recruiting him?

that's the point you f'ing jack ass................WHO THE F*CK DID BILL GET TO REPLACE THE GUYS WHO FOUND SIMONEAU?

I don't know.. Phil Bennett?

Stop being a moron.

stoops/leavitt>m.Stoops>bennett>elliott
mangino>dunn>stanley
venables>gush<beilma>cosh

...see the trend?  I'm fine with bill if he can identify the next stoops, venables, mangino and get them on staff.  I just don't think he can/will.  

Because...??

ummm...because, as illustrated above, as time passed he has shown that the can't/couldn't/didn't.  

Wrong again.  The last two years is all you're focusing on, but he did win a conference championship without Venables, Stoops, and Mangino.. and did it against those guys.

His last two years, not so well, but you haven't indicated that he isn't able to see his mistakes and improve on his own coaching ability.

[mjrod]

Yeah, with two games left and an obvious bowl game.  No, Bennett doesn't help at all.

 

Yes, we should look for those defensive numbers to improve dramatically after playing Noel Devine and Pat White.

They are going to a bowl game.

[catzacker]

JFC MJ are you that f*cking stupid?  How do you think the last 2 years came about?  It's because of the collection of coaches (which had gotten worse and worse over time) couldn't sustain the level of recruiting that it once did.  It's not like Dylan Meier was a true freshman in '04.  You have to be the dumbest MF'er ever if you want to say that recruiting at KSU got better from '98 moving forward.  

He didn't begin to identify it until it hit him (and the whole program) until it hit him smack in the face.  Maybe he "learned his lesson", until then, I don't think he can do it.  I HOPE I'm wrong.

[michigancat]

Yeah, with two games left and an obvious bowl game.  No, Bennett doesn't help at all.

 

Yes, we should look for those defensive numbers to improve dramatically after playing Noel Devine and Pat White.

They are going to a bowl game.

Because their scoring offense went from 7th to 1st.

[mjrod]

JFC MJ are you that f*cking stupid?  How do you think the last 2 years came about?

No one is questioning that.   However, you seem to forget the previous 15 years as if they were irrelevant.  Seriously, you can't be this horrendously stupid.

It's because of the collection of coaches (which had gotten worse and worse over time) couldn't sustain the level of recruiting that it once did.
It's not like Dylan Meier was a true freshman in '04.  You have to be the dumbest MF'er ever if you want to say that recruiting at KSU got better from '98 moving forward.  

Oh yeah, it's not like we weren't north Champions or won a conference title after 1998.

GMAFB.

 
No, you're a complete idiot.  You pick a year and decide the recruiting got worse from 1998?  Seriously, STFU.  You have no idea what you're talking about since you can't really figure out what your point is.

[catzacker]

JFC MJ are you that f*cking stupid?  How do you think the last 2 years came about?

No one is questioning that.   However, you seem to forget the previous 15 years as if they were irrelevant.  Seriously, you can't be this horrendously stupid.

It's because of the collection of coaches (which had gotten worse and worse over time) couldn't sustain the level of recruiting that it once did.
It's not like Dylan Meier was a true freshman in '04.  You have to be the dumbest MF'er ever if you want to say that recruiting at KSU got better from '98 moving forward.  

Oh yeah, it's not like we weren't north Champions or won a conference title after 1998.

GMAFB.

 
No, you're a complete idiot.  You pick a year and decide the recruiting got worse from 1998?  Seriously, STFU.  You have no idea what you're talking about since you can't really figure out what your point is.

If no one is questioning how the last two years came about, then you get my point.  Recruiting got worse, I think it started when those guys left in '98, and slowly but surely fell with each changing of assistants.  I've pointed out, as examples, the changes that got worse since about '98.  And the last staff,which was basically around since '02 had some terrible recruiting in terms of guys showing up and guys actually performing.  JFC, I didn't think you'd go Bill O'Reilly.

[michigancat]

1998 was significant.  Anyone remember why?

[tmramrod91]

Yeah, with two games left and an obvious bowl game.  No, Bennett doesn't help at all.

 

Yes, we should look for those defensive numbers to improve dramatically after playing Noel Devine and Pat White.

So, Tibs> Bennet?

No one is ecstatic about the hire, its a weird situation.  Its done and no real point of b*tching like 9 yr olds about it.  There is no way in hell you can say that if Snydes comes in with Long/Bennet as his coordinators that ksu wont be infinitely better coached than the past 2 years.

[Oklahoma_Cat]

It's Bill Snyder, guys.  Give it up.  Bill F'ing Snyder.

He built this house, he can tear it down.  

[1992]

Interesting what he says at the top of the story.  So, to all the brilliant posters on this board, why would he state this?
http://www.kansascity.com/167/story/906616.html

Snyder ain't Pinkel.  I guess we knew that already.

[fatty fat fat]

if Snydes comes in with Long/Bennet as his coordinators that ksu wont be infinitely better coached than the past 2 years.

If only SMU/SDSU knew about these dudes "coaching abilities" 

[michigancat]

Yeah, with two games left and an obvious bowl game.  No, Bennett doesn't help at all.

 

Yes, we should look for those defensive numbers to improve dramatically after playing Noel Devine and Pat White.

So, Tibs> Bennet?

No one is ecstatic about the hire, its a weird situation.  Its done and no real point of b*tching like 9 yr olds about it.  There is no way in hell you can say that if Snydes comes in with Long/Bennet as his coordinators that ksu wont be infinitely better coached than the past 2 years.

Being infinitely better coached and 10 cents would get you a cup of coffee in Bill Snyder's heyday.

[michigancat]

if Snydes comes in with Long/Bennet as his coordinators that ksu wont be infinitely better coached than the past 2 years.

If only SMU/SDSU knew about these dudes "coaching abilities" 

Impossible places to win.  Gorgeous campus in the heart of Dallas, and a school in San Freaking Diego.

[elkwc]

I don't think anyone will be scared of Bill coming back but will respect him and his coaching. And anyone that don't think BS and his staff coached up and developed players don't know a lot about coaching or football in my opinion.

[GoodForAnother]