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September 09, 2006, 10:45:35 PM
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September 09, 2006, 10:52:02 PM
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Good decision making. Didn't have those terrible throws in obvious double coverage.

His are just seems weak though. Maybe someone elsee saw it different.


And for &@#% sake. Change your avatar. Freeman was a TOTAL disaster
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 09, 2006, 11:14:16 PM
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And for &*$@! sake. Change your avatar. Freeman was a TOTAL disaster

No.  A Marshall win and it will change.

September 09, 2006, 11:15:33 PM
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Fair enough. 3-0 would be awesome considering how pathetic last week was.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 09, 2006, 11:18:21 PM
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Did he have more time to throw?  His stats weren't any better.  At all.  The lack of a run game shouldn't be an excuse any more.

September 09, 2006, 11:20:07 PM
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Our offense just isn't going to be very good this year. We need to realize that, and hopefully get around that.

Freeman was bad. Beyond terrible.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 09, 2006, 11:21:40 PM
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How did Freeman compare to your boy AE?

September 09, 2006, 11:26:00 PM
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Don't know. But I hope Dylan stays for a sixth year.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 09, 2006, 11:34:52 PM
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No, you want a 5-star JUCO.

September 10, 2006, 10:40:25 AM
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Freeman's first throw travelled about 3 yards before hitting the turf.

Meier didn't look amazing, and he didn't look bad either. He was just being Dylan Meier out there. Had a few nice scrambles actually, because Prince read the board and took my suggestion to roll him out.

September 10, 2006, 11:18:47 AM
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having the biggest signature pic in the world is cool


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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September 10, 2006, 11:23:31 AM
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we need freeman..his oline last night was crap

September 10, 2006, 11:33:45 AM
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His stats weren't any better.  At all.  The lack of a run game shouldn't be an excuse any more.

The excuse du jure from the Kool-Aid crowd is the rain.
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September 10, 2006, 11:37:35 AM
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having the biggest signature pic in the world is cool

Only when it's the coolest fantasy football logo in the world.

September 10, 2006, 12:05:40 PM
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Freeman was set-up to fail last night.  He comes in behind a second-string O-Line (the starters are bad enough), 2nd-4th string receivers and backs, and the crowd chanting his name.  He really didn't have a chance to live up to expectations.

September 10, 2006, 01:00:48 PM
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Freeman was set-up to fail last night.  He comes in behind a second-string O-Line (the starters are bad enough), 2nd-4th string receivers and backs, and the crowd chanting his name.  He really didn't have a chance to live up to expectations.

This was a brilliant move by Prince.  &@#%ing stroke of genius.
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September 10, 2006, 02:41:55 PM
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Freeman was set-up to fail last night.  He comes in behind a second-string O-Line (the starters are bad enough), 2nd-4th string receivers and backs, and the crowd chanting his name.  He really didn't have a chance to live up to expectations.

Exactly and you could clearly tell he was nervous.  The next time he plays he will be much, much better.

Meier's arm strength is inconsistent and he just flat out sucks throwing deep.

Missed Yamon on a 40 yard TD throw that was open by 3 steps.

September 10, 2006, 02:52:01 PM
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Having Freeman look like sh1t is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.  Don't let a QB controversey develop.  Make the fans look like idiots for calling for Freeman, let Freeman know he hasn't done sh1t yet and has to earn his way onto the field, and earn the trust of Prince, the team and the fans.
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September 10, 2006, 03:25:17 PM
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The QB constroversy is why Prince ran off the best QBs before the season started.  No way to make that one go away, particularly when Meier sucks and Freemans sucks even more.
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September 10, 2006, 03:48:49 PM
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The QB constroversy is why Prince ran off the best QBs before the season started.  No way to make that one go away, particularly when Meier sucks and Freemans sucks even more.

I remember correctly, Roberson came into the LaTech game in 2000 after Beasley had pretty much won that game, and people were cheering hollering.  I even heard of people saying it was ABOUT TIME!!

Then Roberson proceeded to do a QB draw and got tackled for loss, then incomplete, then 2 yard gain ... then punt.   Roberson was never brought back in again, or when he was, it was obvious the game was won.  TV analysts during the Big 12 CC game had stated that Roberson was coming back, and thought he'd be as good as Bishop.. and for not even really playing that much.

Three years later, Roberson is the best damn QB KSU ever had under Snyder and maybe even KSU history.   Of course, Beasley did wonders in the 2000 season and KSU should have gone to a BCS bowl, having played OU twice and closer than any other Big 12 team.   Watching KSU dismantle Tennessee in one of Beasley's finest performances after having to endure pre-season and OOC criticism was kinda of the icing on the cake for his career.   Meier is facing the same kinds of questions, and criticism, although Meier certainly hasn't lived up to being a Beasley, he probably could be one, and only two games into the season doesn't really show where he can go.

Watching the conversation in this thread is amazing.  Freeman was being touted by so many people as being better than Meier, and they are correct, only, Freeman had a bad start, which is not without precedence anywhere in the history of KSU football, or football for that matter.   Watching Titan's fans screaming for VY then only to discover he ain't as good in the NFL as he was in college, reality sets in when the pundits say he's got a lot to learn.   Players of Freeman's caliber, in fact every player has bad games, and usually, they happen when they get their first start on the field.

Freeman is a beast, and has incredible talent, but there is no way you can say Freeman is worse than Meier when you consider that history repeats itself.  I see that Meier will become much better, but will soon be forgotten when he is eventually passed by Freeman.

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September 10, 2006, 04:00:49 PM
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Don't get your panties in all in a wad rodent.  Freeman will be fine but right now he's not as "good" as Meier which is a sad statement on the status of the QB position at KSU at the moment.
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September 10, 2006, 04:06:43 PM
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The QB constroversy is why Prince ran off the best QBs before the season started.  No way to make that one go away, particularly when Meier sucks and Freemans sucks even more.

I remember correctly, Roberson came into the LaTech game in 2000 after Beasley had pretty much won that game, and people were cheering hollering.  I even heard of people saying it was ABOUT TIME!!

Then Roberson proceeded to do a QB draw and got tackled for loss, then incomplete, then 2 yard gain ... then punt.   Roberson was never brought back in again, or when he was, it was obvious the game was won.  TV analysts during the Big 12 CC game had stated that Roberson was coming back, and thought he'd be as good as Bishop.. and for not even really playing that much.

Three years later, Roberson is the best damn QB KSU ever had under Snyder and maybe even KSU history.   Of course, Beasley did wonders in the 2000 season and KSU should have gone to a BCS bowl, having played OU twice and closer than any other Big 12 team.   Watching KSU dismantle Tennessee in one of Beasley's finest performances after having to endure pre-season and OOC criticism was kinda of the icing on the cake for his career.   Meier is facing the same kinds of questions, and criticism, although Meier certainly hasn't lived up to being a Beasley, he probably could be one, and only two games into the season doesn't really show where he can go.

Watching the conversation in this thread is amazing.  Freeman was being touted by so many people as being better than Meier, and they are correct, only, Freeman had a bad start, which is not without precedence anywhere in the history of KSU football, or football for that matter.   Watching Titan's fans screaming for VY then only to discover he ain't as good in the NFL as he was in college, reality sets in when the pundits say he's got a lot to learn.   Players of Freeman's caliber, in fact every player has bad games, and usually, they happen when they get their first start on the field.

Freeman is a beast, and has incredible talent, but there is no way you can say Freeman is worse than Meier when you consider that history repeats itself.  I see that Meier will become much better, but will soon be forgotten when he is eventually passed by Freeman.

 :popcorn:

This is excellent analysis but missing one key aspect of all this.  The lowering of expectations and the humbling of the QB was a necessary process and defused alot of the pressure/insanity.  People were still whining about Snyder not giving Marc Dunn "a fair shake" after Roberson saved his ass in the USC game 2002.  Prince has actually made his first brilliant move by ensuring that Freeman fails and letting everyone know who the clear number one is, getting Freeman some extremely limited experience (here is what taking a snap looks like in front of an actual defense in BSFS etc.)

Freeman's 0-4 1INT appearance with the #2 O-line was actually one of the biggest positives thus far out of this coaching staff for me.
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September 10, 2006, 04:08:26 PM
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The QB constroversy is why Prince ran off the best QBs before the season started.  No way to make that one go away, particularly when Meier sucks and Freemans sucks even more.

I remember correctly, Roberson came into the LaTech game in 2000 after Beasley had pretty much won that game, and people were cheering hollering.  I even heard of people saying it was ABOUT TIME!!

Then Roberson proceeded to do a QB draw and got tackled for loss, then incomplete, then 2 yard gain ... then punt.   Roberson was never brought back in again, or when he was, it was obvious the game was won.  TV analysts during the Big 12 CC game had stated that Roberson was coming back, and thought he'd be as good as Bishop.. and for not even really playing that much.

Three years later, Roberson is the best damn QB KSU ever had under Snyder and maybe even KSU history.   Of course, Beasley did wonders in the 2000 season and KSU should have gone to a BCS bowl, having played OU twice and closer than any other Big 12 team.   Watching KSU dismantle Tennessee in one of Beasley's finest performances after having to endure pre-season and OOC criticism was kinda of the icing on the cake for his career.   Meier is facing the same kinds of questions, and criticism, although Meier certainly hasn't lived up to being a Beasley, he probably could be one, and only two games into the season doesn't really show where he can go.

Watching the conversation in this thread is amazing.  Freeman was being touted by so many people as being better than Meier, and they are correct, only, Freeman had a bad start, which is not without precedence anywhere in the history of KSU football, or football for that matter.   Watching Titan's fans screaming for VY then only to discover he ain't as good in the NFL as he was in college, reality sets in when the pundits say he's got a lot to learn.   Players of Freeman's caliber, in fact every player has bad games, and usually, they happen when they get their first start on the field.

Freeman is a beast, and has incredible talent, but there is no way you can say Freeman is worse than Meier when you consider that history repeats itself.  I see that Meier will become much better, but will soon be forgotten when he is eventually passed by Freeman.

 :popcorn:

So you think that since Roberson played like crap his first few times, and Freeman did as well, that Freeman is 100% destined to be the best quarterback Ksu has ever seen?

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September 10, 2006, 04:13:30 PM
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This is excellent analysis but missing one key aspect of all this.  The lowering of expectations and the humbling of the QB was a necessary process and defused alot of the pressure/insanity.  People were still whining about Snyder not giving Marc Dunn "a fair shake" after Roberson saved his ass in the USC game 2002.  Prince has actually made his first brilliant move by ensuring that Freeman fails and letting everyone know who the clear number one is, getting Freeman some extremely limited experience (here is what taking a snap looks like in front of an actual defense in BSFS etc.)

Freeman's 0-4 1INT appearance with the #2 O-line was actually one of the biggest positives thus far out of this coaching staff for me.

Yes, agreed.  I think I was implying that.

September 10, 2006, 04:17:10 PM
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The QB constroversy is why Prince ran off the best QBs before the season started.  No way to make that one go away, particularly when Meier sucks and Freemans sucks even more.

I remember correctly, Roberson came into the LaTech game in 2000 after Beasley had pretty much won that game, and people were cheering hollering.  I even heard of people saying it was ABOUT TIME!!

Then Roberson proceeded to do a QB draw and got tackled for loss, then incomplete, then 2 yard gain ... then punt.   Roberson was never brought back in again, or when he was, it was obvious the game was won.  TV analysts during the Big 12 CC game had stated that Roberson was coming back, and thought he'd be as good as Bishop.. and for not even really playing that much.

Three years later, Roberson is the best damn QB KSU ever had under Snyder and maybe even KSU history.   Of course, Beasley did wonders in the 2000 season and KSU should have gone to a BCS bowl, having played OU twice and closer than any other Big 12 team.   Watching KSU dismantle Tennessee in one of Beasley's finest performances after having to endure pre-season and OOC criticism was kinda of the icing on the cake for his career.   Meier is facing the same kinds of questions, and criticism, although Meier certainly hasn't lived up to being a Beasley, he probably could be one, and only two games into the season doesn't really show where he can go.

Watching the conversation in this thread is amazing.  Freeman was being touted by so many people as being better than Meier, and they are correct, only, Freeman had a bad start, which is not without precedence anywhere in the history of KSU football, or football for that matter.   Watching Titan's fans screaming for VY then only to discover he ain't as good in the NFL as he was in college, reality sets in when the pundits say he's got a lot to learn.   Players of Freeman's caliber, in fact every player has bad games, and usually, they happen when they get their first start on the field.

Freeman is a beast, and has incredible talent, but there is no way you can say Freeman is worse than Meier when you consider that history repeats itself.  I see that Meier will become much better, but will soon be forgotten when he is eventually passed by Freeman.

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So you think that since Roberson played like crap his first few times, and Freeman did as well, that Freeman is 100% destined to be the best quarterback Ksu has ever seen?

lmk

That's not what I said, but you certainly can draw that inference from that based on close the lines of development that are between both players.


September 10, 2006, 05:38:20 PM
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Remember when Dunn was chosen to be the starter over Roberson in 2003? WTF?

September 10, 2006, 06:03:55 PM
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Remember when Dunn was chosen to be the starter over Roberson in 2003? WTF?

Motivational tactic. Worked beautifully.

September 10, 2006, 06:23:14 PM
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Remember when Dunn was chosen to be the starter over Roberson in 2003? WTF?

2002.

Also, I wouldn't want Freeman to play at all if we had a backup QB for Meier.  Prince totally f'ed that one up.

September 10, 2006, 07:12:59 PM
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Remember when Dunn was chosen to be the starter over Roberson in 2003? WTF?

2002.

Also, I wouldn't want Freeman to play at all if we had a backup QB for Meier.  Prince totally f'ed that one up.

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September 10, 2006, 08:12:30 PM
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Don't get your panties in all in a wad rodent.  Freeman will be fine but right now he's not as "good" as Meier which is a sad statement on the status of the QB position at KSU at the moment.

QB play isn't the only thing that carries the team.   Would I want to have a better QB?  Sure, but Meier is good enough in this offense to get it moving.  As the line improves, so will his play.   A lot of good QB's can play but if he doesn't have a great supporting cast, you can't expect him to just win games by himself.