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October 02, 2008, 03:25:59 PM
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is "baby's breath" on Netflix?

How can I watch it?

October 02, 2008, 03:29:42 PM
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I'll send you a &@#%ing copy. 

October 02, 2008, 03:31:24 PM
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October 02, 2008, 04:42:49 PM
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You didn't think I'd take the crap lying down, did you?  Let's just address a few things that were said here ...
How many movies have you made?

I've made 1, and it sells nicely in Germany and Japan.  They eat that crap up.  You should consider marketing it overseas.

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October 02, 2008, 04:55:09 PM
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What's baby's breath about?

October 02, 2008, 05:19:16 PM
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What's baby's breath about?

If you honestly want to know ...

I wrote the screenplay when I lived in Los Angeles.  It's a pretty basic ghost story, not too violent, with a murder mystery and a twist.  The premise was inspired by an actual crime.  In Wichita 12 years ago, a young woman was murdered, and the house was set on fire to hide the evidence.  Her 18-month-old baby was trapped in the house, and the child died in the St. Francis Burn Unit one week later.

I got this what-if idea about the baby's spirit leaving her body while she's in the coma in the icu.  The spirit appears to the only man she trusts, her mother's boyfriend, and tries to tell him who the killer is.  Only trouble is, she talks in baby talk, so the hero can't understand her.

My agent shopped the script all over Hollywood.  Two days after he sent it out, he called me and said, "I've got 12 meetings lined up for you."  So I was all over Hollywood, meeting producers on different studio lots.  Everyone said the same thing, "This script scared the hell out of me.  Great script.  Only trouble is, we can't make it.  You see, you've got this baby in a burn unit, covered with burns.  Even if you don't show her, the idea is just too much for most audiences."

This was 2002, mind you.  Times have changed since then.  I got so frustrated that I decided to try to make the movie myself, and I came back to Kansas to do it.  Yes, it has a lot of problems, but I'm damn proud of the script and I'm damn proud of the performances from the cast.  Still, it's pretty low-budget, and it shows.  If I had the money, I would go back and redo it, hire someone with a little directing experience, and totally revamp the first 20 minutes, which are kind of slow and poorly paced.  I got so caught up in rushing through those scenes, in getting to the actual crime, that I didn't focus on making them as compelling as the crime itself.

I did sell the movie to a couple of foreign countries.  Not a lot of dough.  Both countries were hit by the tsunami in 2004--make of that what you will (Catmatt mojo not working). 

Anyway, that's the movie.  The DVD is independently produced, and all the things that I can do with video now I didn't know how to do then.  So there aren't any great effects, and there aren't even chapter stops, and my director's commentary sucks rocks--I was deep in debt, feeling miserable, and I got a bit self-indulgent.  But ... the one light from that time.  One week after we got home from Italy ... K-State beat OU in the B12 Title Game. 

October 02, 2008, 05:22:07 PM
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You didn't think I'd take the crap lying down, did you?  Let's just address a few things that were said here ...
How many movies have you made?

I've made 1, and it sells nicely in Germany and Japan.  They eat that crap up.  You should consider marketing it overseas.

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Can I find it on IMDb?  Did you write, direct, star?  I'd just like to know.

October 02, 2008, 05:39:21 PM
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What's baby's breath about?

If you honestly want to know ...

I wrote the screenplay when I lived in Los Angeles.  It's a pretty basic ghost story, not too violent, with a murder mystery and a twist.  The premise was inspired by an actual crime.  In Wichita 12 years ago, a young woman was murdered, and the house was set on fire to hide the evidence.  Her 18-month-old baby was trapped in the house, and the child died in the St. Francis Burn Unit one week later.

I got this what-if idea about the baby's spirit leaving her body while she's in the coma in the icu.  The spirit appears to the only man she trusts, her mother's boyfriend, and tries to tell him who the killer is.  Only trouble is, she talks in baby talk, so the hero can't understand her.

My agent shopped the script all over Hollywood.  Two days after he sent it out, he called me and said, "I've got 12 meetings lined up for you."  So I was all over Hollywood, meeting producers on different studio lots.  Everyone said the same thing, "This script scared the hell out of me.  Great script.  Only trouble is, we can't make it.  You see, you've got this baby in a burn unit, covered with burns.  Even if you don't show her, the idea is just too much for most audiences."

This was 2002, mind you.  Times have changed since then.  I got so frustrated that I decided to try to make the movie myself, and I came back to Kansas to do it.  Yes, it has a lot of problems, but I'm damn proud of the script and I'm damn proud of the performances from the cast.  Still, it's pretty low-budget, and it shows.  If I had the money, I would go back and redo it, hire someone with a little directing experience, and totally revamp the first 20 minutes, which are kind of slow and poorly paced.  I got so caught up in rushing through those scenes, in getting to the actual crime, that I didn't focus on making them as compelling as the crime itself.

I did sell the movie to a couple of foreign countries.  Not a lot of dough.  Both countries were hit by the tsunami in 2004--make of that what you will (Catmatt mojo not working). 

Anyway, that's the movie.  The DVD is independently produced, and all the things that I can do with video now I didn't know how to do then.  So there aren't any great effects, and there aren't even chapter stops, and my director's commentary sucks rocks--I was deep in debt, feeling miserable, and I got a bit self-indulgent.  But ... the one light from that time.  One week after we got home from Italy ... K-State beat OU in the B12 Title Game. 

Not bad.  Can't Hollywood make like a digitally-burnt baby?

October 02, 2008, 05:40:41 PM
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We didn't even show the burnt baby.  We just had an oxygen tent with a shape under it wrapped in gauze and the sound of the respirator going.  I had seen the autopsy photos of the actual crime, and I knew I didn't want to show that stuff to anyone.

October 02, 2008, 05:49:10 PM
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Catmatt, this sounds really interesting. Really cool that I can say I've message boarded with a film director.
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October 02, 2008, 05:53:49 PM
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Catmatt, this sounds really interesting. Really cool that I can say I've message boarded with a film director.

Not a film director.  If you watch the movie, you'll see why I say that.

October 02, 2008, 06:25:30 PM
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Catmatt, this sounds really interesting. Really cool that I can say I've message boarded with a film director.

Not a film director.  If you watch the movie, you'll see why I say that.

Lead actor?

October 02, 2008, 07:13:39 PM
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catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me  :confused:


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October 02, 2008, 07:23:11 PM
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You didn't think I'd take the crap lying down, did you?  Let's just address a few things that were said here ...

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Look for the large all-caps, boldface post.

I deleted the post.  I didn't realize it would hurt your widdle feelings so much to be called "classless assclowns."  From what I gathered reading some of the threads, I figured most of you would wear the nomenclature like a badge of honor.  Isn't that why this board broke off from the other, so you could have carte blanche to be as cruel and mean-spirited as you want?


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I'm genuinely hurt.


I can't tell if you are serious or not, man.  If you are being serious, I wasn't singling out you or many other folks on this board.  I think in the offending post on the other site, I said something to the effect that certain Republicans and Christians are no more representative of all Republicans and Christians than "the classless assclowns on KSUFans" are representative of the entire KSU fanbase.  I never said everyone on this baord was an assclown, only that there are classless assclowns who post over here (and you know who you are).


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What a flip-flopper.

I don't even know what this means.


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He voted for Kerry.

That's a bit low.


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sad to see a guy like cattmatt take unwarranted shots at this board and its users, there really is no place for that type of disrespect.

I assume you're being sarcastic.  It seems to me this board is purposefully designed as a forum for "that type of distrespect."  Hell, everyone on here is looking for ways to take it too far, wheter it is digging out personal information or harrassing someone's daughter on her MySpace page.  And as far as my shots back being unwarranted ... that's a matter of opinion.

PS:  I see you edited your one post after I PM'ed you.  I'd still like to know your sources and where you got that misinformation.


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I can tell his movie sucks without even watching it.

Matter of opinion, and I respect that.  It would be nice, however, if you could:

a.  Watch the movie first.
b.  Present an informed analysis as to why it sucked.
c.  Have the balls to sign your name to it.

Your comment is reminiscent of all the anonymous emails I got from ku film students back in 2003 ... before I had even screen the film.  They just knew it "sucked" somehow.  How's it feel to have something in common with ku film students?


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If he has children, they are probably a bunch of trigs

If you're going to bring my kids into this, then definitely, you need to come out from behind that internet anonymity and say that one too my face.  Come on, you little bitch.  Quit hiding behind that half-black stuffed shirt avatar of yours and show me what a big man you are.


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I am disappointed that cattmatt would be nice to our faces and then run off to his "cool" friends and make fun of us


First of all, I wasn't nice to anyone's face.  No one shows their face on here for me to be nice to. But I did come on here in peace.  I wasn't trying to harm anyone.  I was getting along.  I was enjoying sharing my videos with you.  But some of your users thought it would be fun to frack with me.  And I guess I committed the unpardonable sin of calling those users "classless assclowns."  Wow, I must have touched a nerve there. 

By the way, who said the people on the other board were cool?  None of them are my friends.  They're just people I shoot the crap with on the Internet.


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He came over here, registered, shared a few laughs and then ran back and made fun of us.


I cam over and registered because I was invited.  Someone who liked my videos invited me.  Geez, it's as simple as that.  I didn't have any ulterior motive.  I wasn't sneaking on here, waiting for the day when I could go back to the scout board and call you all "classless assclowns." 
By the way, calling some of the users "classless assclowns" is not "making fun."  It's stating a fact.

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I understand that there are people in this world who aren't nice, but this just seems premeditated and mean.


There are a lot of people in this world who aren't nice.  Many of them are on this board.  Many of them are premeditated and mean.  Some of the crap done and said to me was not playful, not funny, and not provoked.  So don't get on your high horse over here.  You're sounding like an al-Quada in the desert, looking up at a Patriot missile bearing down and saying, "What did I ever do to you?"


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like high school all over.


Tell me about it.  When people go to my MySpace page, take passages from my blogs and post them out of context to embarrass me ... I am reminded of the film Odd Girl Out, which I watched with my granddaughter last year.  It's kind of a dark version of Mean Girls, and it involves high school girls anonymously trying to harrass and embarrass their peers by sharing personal information on the Internet.  I'm not a high school girl.  I won't become bulemic or suicidal.  But I will call your crap on it.

I guess it's my own fault for making my MySpace page public.  I did this so when I blogged from Africa my parents could read it.  it kind of sucks when anonymous little cockroaches have to go and screw that up for me.


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Here's the bottom line, and this goes out to any classless assclown who is listening. 

You want to bring my movie into it, go right ahead.  It's fair game.  I made it public.  It has its flaws, and I have openly admitted that I am responsible for those flaws.  I'm proud of my script, but I really didn't know what I was doing trying to direct the thing.  I can take that heat; I only get defensive when people attack the movie as a whole to include the very fine people who acted in it and helped make it possible.  I can take the heat, but I won't let you go after any of them.  Everything right that happened in that film happened because of them; everything wrong happened because of me.  I admit that.

For those like Oklahoma_Cat who flip the crap, let me ask you this?  How many movies have you made?  Did you devote two years of your life and all of your savings to make one?  Did you spend every last dime to get into the international film market in Milan, take the movie there yourself, and find yourself getting beaten up by bigger studios and production companies with a lot more money?  Did you take people under your wing, mentor them, even pay for one of them to accompany you to Italy for the market, only to have that person turn on you, spread lies about you, and send their friends to harrass you in the middle of the night?

I think not.  Because if you'd been through it, you'd shut your piehole.  I know I've picked on Ron Prince as much as the next guy, but one of the reasons I still pray for his success is because did the same thing at K-State that I did making the movie.  He jumped into this situation with a plan, despite all the talk that he didn't have enough experience.  He believes in himself and his system, and even as he sees it coming apart at the seams, he's still knee-deep in it, fighting it out, trying to succeed.  Would any of you be able to take what Ron Prince is taking?  Doubt it.  If you had half his strength, you wouldn't be on message boards, hiding behind your faggoty little scren names, talking smack on things you know jack crap about.

If you have a problem with my rant, talk to me personally about it.  Most of you know more about me than I do about you.  Man up, ID yourselves, and show me what you've got. 

Or just post something stupid on this thread and show your reacharound buddies how clever you are.  Maybe when you hit puberty, you'll come to me with something to say that's of value.

Not a very good apology imo. Also kinda long.

October 02, 2008, 07:45:12 PM
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You didn't think I'd take the crap lying down, did you?  Let's just address a few things that were said here ...
How many movies have you made?

I've made 1, and it sells nicely in Germany and Japan.  They eat that crap up.  You should consider marketing it overseas.

 :users:



Can I find it on IMDb?  Did you write, direct, star?  I'd just like to know.

Chief photog.  I'm ugly, so I stay behind camera.  Not on imdb as far as I know, but I will search.

In all honesty, I was just teasing you about your movie because it seemed like the thing to do.  Having been involved in movie and video production, I feel your pain.  Not as easy as it looks, that's for sure.

October 02, 2008, 07:47:36 PM
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catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me  :confused:

I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56.  The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM.  That's why I made that assumption.

October 02, 2008, 07:49:53 PM
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You didn't think I'd take the crap lying down, did you?  Let's just address a few things that were said here ...
How many movies have you made?

I've made 1, and it sells nicely in Germany and Japan.  They eat that crap up.  You should consider marketing it overseas.

 :users:



Can I find it on IMDb?  Did you write, direct, star?  I'd just like to know.

Chief photog.  I'm ugly, so I stay behind camera.  Not on imdb as far as I know, but I will search.

In all honesty, I was just teasing you about your movie because it seemed like the thing to do.  Having been involved in movie and video production, I feel your pain.  Not as easy as it looks, that's for sure.

I'm just surprised--and a little annoyed--that the movie came up on these boards because although I'm open about my time in Los Angeles, I don't talk about the movie on here.  The best thing to come out of it is that many talented actors now have something to add to their reels--their work in the movie was really solid.  But I don't take credit for anything right that happened.  I was as lost as Ron Prince in that thing.

October 02, 2008, 07:55:50 PM
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I'd actually be pretty interested in seeing this movie, Matt.

October 02, 2008, 08:06:33 PM
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I'd actually be pretty interested in seeing this movie, Matt.


Same here.

October 02, 2008, 08:12:22 PM
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I'd actually be pretty interested in seeing this movie, Matt.


Same here.
yeah me too.
plus I am not a classless assclown like everyone else on this site. :peek:

October 02, 2008, 08:38:26 PM
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I think my wife would love this movie. Send it my way

October 02, 2008, 08:45:33 PM
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This is starting to look like gopowercat a few weeks ago when everyone tossed out their email address to get top secret info on Leon Patton/Brent Venables/etc.

October 02, 2008, 09:33:59 PM
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October 02, 2008, 11:19:48 PM
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catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me  :confused:

I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56.  The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM.  That's why I made that assumption.
hmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams".  i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever.  this must have been to a coincidence.

i have no secrets - please post here whatever you said in the scout board pm.  and why wouldn't you just pm me here? fwiw, i edited my post here because when i re-read my post i thought it sounded mean.


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October 03, 2008, 07:46:38 AM
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catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me  :confused:

I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56.  The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM.  That's why I made that assumption.
hmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams".  i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever.  this must have been to a coincidence.

i have no secrets - please post here whatever you said in the scout board pm.  and why wouldn't you just pm me here? fwiw, i edited my post here because when i re-read my post i thought it sounded mean.

Who is the phog sock you speak of?  :chirp:

October 03, 2008, 08:02:37 AM
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catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me  :confused:

I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56.  The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM.  That's why I made that assumption.
hmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams".  i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever.  this must have been to a coincidence.

i have no secrets - please post here whatever you said in the scout board pm.  and why wouldn't you just pm me here? fwiw, i edited my post here because when i re-read my post i thought it sounded mean.

Who is the phog sock you speak of?  :chirp:
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October 03, 2008, 10:18:10 AM
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catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me  :confused:

I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56.  The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM.  That's why I made that assumption.
hmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams".  i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever.  this must have been to a coincidence.

i have no secrets - please post here whatever you said in the scout board pm.  and why wouldn't you just pm me here? fwiw, i edited my post here because when i re-read my post i thought it sounded mean.

I believe you, man.  It's a really funny coincidence.  All I said in the PM was check your fact because you stated something that was innacurate.  No harm, no foul.

I ddn't PM you here because I was modifying my profile and was PO'ed, and I deleted my account.  So I had no way to PM over here.  When this thread started, I opened a new account under Catmatt to wade in with fists a'flying.

October 03, 2008, 10:26:46 AM
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ok cool. well, i quit going to that board a while ago, still went to phog.net though until i got banned there.  then, i created a sock and just keep that logged in and if i ever visit kstatefans i'm logged in as my phog sock not pissclams.

it's all good though, welcome back.  8-)


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October 03, 2008, 10:28:31 AM
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catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me  :confused:

I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56.  The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM.  That's why I made that assumption.
hmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams".  i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever.  this must have been to a coincidence.

i have no secrets - please post here whatever you said in the scout board pm.  and why wouldn't you just pm me here? fwiw, i edited my post here because when i re-read my post i thought it sounded mean.

I believe you, man.  It's a really funny coincidence.  All I said in the PM was check your fact because you stated something that was innacurate.  No harm, no foul.

I ddn't PM you here because I was modifying my profile and was PO'ed, and I deleted my account.  So I had no way to PM over here.  When this thread started, I opened a new account under Catmatt to wade in with fists a'flying.

You need to take anger management classes.  Getting worked up over message board threads is whey ghey!

October 03, 2008, 10:48:27 AM
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catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me  :confused:

I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56.  The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM.  That's why I made that assumption.
hmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams".  i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever.  this must have been to a coincidence.

i have no secrets - please post here whatever you said in the scout board pm.  and why wouldn't you just pm me here? fwiw, i edited my post here because when i re-read my post i thought it sounded mean.

I believe you, man.  It's a really funny coincidence.  All I said in the PM was check your fact because you stated something that was innacurate.  No harm, no foul.

I ddn't PM you here because I was modifying my profile and was PO'ed, and I deleted my account.  So I had no way to PM over here.  When this thread started, I opened a new account under Catmatt to wade in with fists a'flying.

You need to take anger management classes.  Getting worked up over message board threads is whey ghey!

qft. I get made fun of at least 4000 times a day.  Who the &@#% cares??? Getting worked up over it isn't gonna help Banks get any taller.