Our ground game is awful

[Kat Kid]

Outside of Freeman turning into Johnathon Beasley, we don't have anyone that went for 4 yards a carry against a 1aa.  Let the suck sink in.

Conversely, the receivers are pretty fantastic.  Do we know when Murphy is back full speed?

[steve dave]

Yeah, the lack of a legit 1aa talent at RB is going to hurt pretty bad come conference play.

[sonofdaxjones]

Very vanilla, but still not good, Valentine was terrible on the rare occasion he actually got to the 2nd level.  

The only back that looked like they have real potential is Woods.

[sonofdaxjones]

I just want to add that RB recruiting is way overrated, anybody can play that position.

[Kat Kid]

Very vanilla, but still not good, Valentine was terrible on the rare occasion he actually got to the 2nd level.  

The only back that looked like they have real potential is Woods.

I agree wholeheartedly with the vanilla scone part, but isn't that kind of the point?  Vanilla vs. D1aa should be rolling them for 5ypc+ with a retard running straight to the whole and falling over.  I don't think this is necessarily all a o-line issue, but they certainly end up looking like much better pass blockers even when considering the enormous disparity in talent between the two skill positions.  I think we should all prepare ourselves to look like the Philly Eagles when Westbrook goes down.  This is going to be a goofy amount of passing.  The fact that Freems has figured out the Beasley bowl is a major positive.  He's the only I would trust inside the 5 or to pick up a 3rd/4th and short at this point.

[catzacker]

i wonder if they know they suck?  I mean, for our LG, C, RG, and RT it's at least like year 3 of them playing (and sucking) you'd have to think that by now they realize they're terrible at being an offensive lineman.

[cireksu]

they were selling out on the run, it won't be good this year but not as bad as it looked sat.  big 12 teams will respect the pass more.

[Kat Kid]

i wonder if they know they suck?  I mean, for our LG, C, RG, and RT it's at least like year 3 of them playing (and sucking) you'd have to think that by now they realize they're terrible at being an offensive lineman.

Honestly, I think this is part of it, but our RB's are terrible.  Just awful.  The white dude runs hard which is cool, but it is mostly because he runs standing straight up and doesn't cut much.  Our o-line is questionable in the run game, but I think this is a ton about the inability of our rb's to recognize or hit a hole let alone make a cut, make people miss, etc.

[cireksu]

i wonder if they know they suck?  I mean, for our LG, C, RG, and RT it's at least like year 3 of them playing (and sucking) you'd have to think that by now they realize they're terrible at being an offensive lineman.

Honestly, I think this is part of it, but our RB's are terrible.  Just awful.  The white dude runs hard which is cool, but it is mostly because he runs standing straight up and doesn't cut much.  Our o-line is questionable in the run game, but I think this is a ton about the inability of our rb's to recognize or hit a hole let alone make a cut, make people miss, etc.

I think valentine has decent vision.  but having 2 inexperienced and margianally(?) talented rb's will hurt us this year.

[steve dave]

margianally(?) talented rb's

Gross exageration of our RB talent imo. 

[cireksu]

margianally(?) talented rb's

Gross exageration of our RB talent imo. 

i'm a homer.

[CatsNChiefs]

Reverses count as runs, s'all good.

[Bullfn33]

WhyTF can't LP get the frack back on the team?  So what, he stole a few video games?  Am I missing something else..did he rape and murder 20 coeds that I'm not aware of?  Our running backs position is ungodly embarrassing.  1AA talent at any position is unacceptable and that's exactly what we got right now. F'n ridic Ron.

       

[Purrrple]

they were selling out on the run, it won't be good this year but not as bad as it looked sat.  big 12 teams will respect the pass more.

Bingo.

MSU asked to get shredded by Freeman by playing man coverage and 8 in the box. Nearly all of our run plays were out of a 2 TE set. Pretty easy to see coming. I'm not sure why MSU would throw in the towel and surrender to our pass attack or maybe they actually thought their CB's are that good.?  Hmmm...not sure. I am sure that Freeman could complete a 10 yard pass play whenever he felt like it. Also, Lamark is developing into (dare I say) an NFL type WR. Very fluid, made some tough grabs while being thumped, and was very hard to bring down. Let's cease and desist this "L.B. to linebacker" stuff here and now please. The d00d is showing some serious upside.

[McGrowlTowelZac]

Do we have any other DB's that can be converted to RB???

[Ben Ji]

WhyTF can't LP get the frack back on the team?  So what, he stole a few video games?  Am I missing something else..did he rape and murder 20 coeds that I'm not aware of?  Our running backs position is ungodly embarrassing.  1AA talent at any position is unacceptable and that's exactly what we got right now. F'n ridic Ron.




Kept old tags on car when he bought it and racked thousands of dollars in parking tickets....

[Bullfn33]

WhyTF can't LP get the frack back on the team?  So what, he stole a few video games?  Am I missing something else..did he rape and murder 20 coeds that I'm not aware of?  Our running backs position is ungodly embarrassing.  1AA talent at any position is unacceptable and that's exactly what we got right now. F'n ridic Ron.




Kept old tags on car when he bought it and racked thousands of dollars in parking tickets....

who doesn't at KSU?  the first part's not so good.  5 game suspension seems adequate

[Pete]

WhyTF can't LP get the frack back on the team?  So what, he stole a few video games?  Am I missing something else..did he rape and murder 20 coeds that I'm not aware of?  Our running backs position is ungodly embarrassing.  1AA talent at any position is unacceptable and that's exactly what we got right now. F'n ridic Ron.

Kept old tags on car when he bought it and racked thousands of dollars in parking tickets....

I'll give you a hint: It's worse than video games and parking tickets, but less than killing two babies.

[mjrod]

Leon Patton just needs to shake it off and get back on the team.

[Pete]

Leon Patton just needs to shake it off and get back on the team.

Agreed.   Sometimes these obstacles in life are like whiplash.  Just have to keep your head on strait, and stable.

[steve dave]

I'll give you a hint: It's worse than video games and parking tickets, but less than killing two babies.

LOL (feel bad) LOL

[cas]

Just saying, Leon Patton is really not light years better than Keithen Valentine.

[Pete]

Just saying, Leon Patton is really not light years better than Keithen Valentine.

 

Leon is 10 kazillion light years better than Valentine.

[Bookcat]

I feel so spoiled for ripping on Thomas Clayton.

[cas]

Just saying, Leon Patton is really not light years better than Keithen Valentine.

 

Leon is 10 kazillion light years better than Valentine.

Convince me.

[k-state-wildcats11]

Just saying, Leon Patton is really not light years better than Keithen Valentine.

 

Leon is 10 kazillion light years better than Valentine.

Convince me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITRi05ubQ-I
any other ?s

[cas]

Just saying, Leon Patton is really not light years better than Keithen Valentine.

 

Leon is 10 kazillion light years better than Valentine.

Convince me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITRi05ubQ-I
any other ?s

Just a sexy vid. Leon didn't do anything at all last year, IMO,IIRC, FWIW.

[k-state-wildcats11]

leon isnt 10 kazillion but he is quite a bit better imo. prolly would have demolished that 3.0 ypc(or w/e it is now) that keithen is carrying around right now.

[cas]

leon isnt 10 kazillion but he is quite a bit better imo. prolly would have demolished that 3.0 ypc(or w/e it is now) that keithen is carrying around right now.

Probably, might be like 3.8.

[Catbanker]

Leon Patton just needs to shake it off and get back on the team

Wow..just wow.  Extremely clever but still..just wow

The only chains Leon will be moving is on a chaingang...