Say Snyder retired after the 2003 season.

[Pett]

Who do we go after than? Most likely a big name coach.

Leavitt for sure would've been ours then if we wanted him IMHO.

[MOKSUAZ]

say Snyder hasn't retired yet........... would we still be as bad as 2004/2005 as we are today?

[Pett]

2004 - Win @ CU & at home vs. ISU = Big 12 North Champions.
2005 - Moreira f`cked it up with the punt return fumble vs. CU @ home.

It of course was time for Snyder to step down, but a couple of breaks those two years and it doesn't look so bad guys.

I mean, no 73-31 games in there (holy sh1t)......everyone agree?

[MOKSUAZ]

so purty much 2004/2005 = 2007 in that logic.

injury to Bedore in ku game.
last second field goal in osu game.   
and that's an 7-5 record.

i know you're trying get at who the coach would be, but it didn't happen. 

[Pett]

No....wrong, the last second field goal vs OSU has nothing to do with it. I didn't talk about the close losses during the season. We gave away the 2005 CU game at home with that fumble.

OSU downright beat us this year. We didn't give them anything.

[michigancat]

Here's another little scenario to ponder.

Lets say my aunt had balls.  Would she then my uncle? 

[steve dave]

Another scenario:  Say you know two guys named Flippy and Hambone..which one would you say liked dolphins more?....You'd say Flippy right?....You'd be wrong though..it's Hambone.

[Trim]

My neighbor at KSU wandered into my place around 8:30 one morning and put this "hypo" to my roommate and I:

Who would you rather &@#%?  An average unremarkable living girl or the hottest girl you could ever imagine who's just barely dead - still warm?

When we told him we'd take the live chick, he seemed pretty disappointed, like he wanted affirmation that the dead chick was the right answer.  This guy was studying anatomy/science issues at the time - I have no idea if he had access to a corpse that previous night.  To make him feel better we told him he'd convinced us that the dead chick was the right answer - because she's just so f'n hot.

[steve dave]

LOL

[Kat Kid]

And if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a party bus!

[Iceberg]

so purty much 2004/2005 = 2007 in that logic.

injury to Bedore in ku game.
last second field goal in osu game.   
and that's an 7-5 record.

i know you're trying get at who the coach would be, but it didn't happen. 

There are several ways to look at it. You could make the excuse with the OSU field goal, a late downfall versus Auburn and ku. That would have made us 8-4. And then you could make the excuse that if we won those three games, would would have beat ISU, NU and Fresno State. Thats 11-1. And then, we would have beat MU at that point as well--after all, we were ahead for a little bit. Wow, that 12-0. Big 12 North Champs.

But we don't make those claims. That is the difference between us and ku fans.

[cas]

so purty much 2004/2005 = 2007 in that logic.

injury to Bedore in ku game.
last second field goal in osu game.   
and that's an 7-5 record.

i know you're trying get at who the coach would be, but it didn't happen. 

There are several ways to look at it. You could make the excuse with the OSU field goal, a late downfall versus Auburn and ku. That would have made us 8-4. And then you could make the excuse that if we won those three games, would would have beat ISU, NU and Fresno State. Thats 11-1. And then, we would have beat MU at that point as well--after all, we were ahead for a little bit. Wow, that 12-0. Big 12 North Champs.

But we don't make those claims. That is the difference between us and ku fans.

Solid post.