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April 04, 2008, 03:11:26 PM
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have you seen him @ bball games?

he makes me look tame.

what does he mostly cheer for?  which player was his scapegoat?
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April 04, 2008, 03:16:53 PM
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he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff

Excellent, hopefully he has got the Gary Barnett message. 

QFT.  Although I think that Krause was a guy that was smitten with Prince during the "interview" process. 

Greeeeaaaat...so he's a moron.  Well, as long as he knows what it takes to win the job can't take that much int.
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April 04, 2008, 07:01:49 PM
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Why not just cut the bullcrap and appoint Wefald as both university president and athletic director?
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April 04, 2008, 08:39:53 PM
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Having a good AD is really important.   The thing is, we've had 3 straight bean counters as our AD at K-State.   Timmy was probably the best bean counter of the 3, because he had a partial clue as to how big time athletics is operated these days, but he took an Emporia State approach to everything.   Timmy wasn't really all that passionate about K-State, that's why all the, "Tim Weiser lets other people have the glory" was such Bull$hit.  You don't go out and raise a bunch of money sending the pissants in to do the work, you've got to have a closer.   I think Bob Krause is more of the "closer" type, and based on what I hear, he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff than Timmy Weiser ever wanted to be. 

IMO I think we should just spend a ton of money and not worry about it.

April 04, 2008, 11:06:03 PM
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he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff

Excellent, hopefully he has got the Gary Barnett message. 

QFT.  Although I think that Krause was a guy that was smitten with Prince during the "interview" process. 

I heard Bill Snyder was smitten and pushed the hiring of Prince.

April 04, 2008, 11:34:53 PM
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Krause is already blowing up Emporia State Tim's "master" facilities plans.   Krause wants it to be much more ambitious.   



This is good to hear.  I've always wondered why the "front door" was always emphasized in the latest round of plans, but nothing was said about balancing out the project.  I envisioned the west side of Bramlage being updated, but the east side left alone.  Or, a lot of work being completed on the west side of the stadium, only to make the east side look like s#it. 

To me, if $70M is going to be spent, everything out to tie together and not be focused on just a "front door".  KSU has produced enough sports facility architects to make it all work. 

April 05, 2008, 10:10:44 AM
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April 05, 2008, 11:34:13 AM
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As long as we conducted a thorough interview and search process, carefully considered many qualified candidates and chose the best man for the job based on his qualifications and an ability to dramatically change a university athletic department that has literally accepted, nay coddled, failure in almost every area, we should be sound as a pound.

KSU, don't call me and ask for any $$ until you take winning in the Big XII seriously.  I will give my money to the frat instead, at least they take getting wasted and banging tri delts seriously.

April 05, 2008, 12:45:02 PM
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As long as we conducted a thorough interview and search process, carefully considered many qualified candidates and chose the best man for the job based on his qualifications and an ability to dramatically change a university athletic department that has literally accepted, nay coddled, failure in almost every area, we should be sound as a pound.

KSU, don't call me and ask for any $$ until you take winning in the Big XII seriously.  I will give my money to the frat instead, at least they take getting wasted and banging tri delts seriously.

LOL, didn't you guys go dry.

dry fraternities  :flush:

April 05, 2008, 01:20:09 PM
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As long as we conducted a thorough interview and search process, carefully considered many qualified candidates and chose the best man for the job based on his qualifications and an ability to dramatically change a university athletic department that has literally accepted, nay coddled, failure in almost every area, we should be sound as a pound.

KSU, don't call me and ask for any $$ until you take winning in the Big XII seriously.  I will give my money to the frat instead, at least they take getting wasted and banging tri delts seriously.

LOL, didn't you guys go dry.

dry fraternities  :flush:

We did but after I left.  It isn't really dry, we just had to get Lew Perkins-like sneaky.  Opaque cups and jungle juice.

BTW Rick, I'm getting married in about 5 hours.  Tell me not to do it or meet us out after, probably hitting the P&L. 

April 05, 2008, 01:47:42 PM
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From what I've read, Krause is AD in name only. Jim Epps is really running the show, he'll just need Krause's signature for a few big things. My take on this, is that Wefald rewarded Krause with the AD title for his years of service to K-State.
Now, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. As long as Krause and Epps see eye-to-eye on most things and have an understanding about where K-State athletics is headed or needs to be heading, then this can work. If not, or if these two start butting heads and disagreeing on the direction of the department, things will fall apart fast. Or, in the next year or two, when it's time to hire a new coach for either football or basketball or both, if they are not on the same page, things could get ugly.
In the short term, this move has a "final act" feeling to it. In five years, Krause (20+ years), Epps (30+ years) and Wefald (20+ years) could all decide to retire, then the University starts fresh, from the top down (this will be the most dangerous time for K-State, depending on who is hired).

April 05, 2008, 02:07:57 PM
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The best AD that $15,000 could buy.  This hiring is a joke.  And not a funny one.

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April 05, 2008, 02:15:00 PM
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As long as we conducted a thorough interview and search process, carefully considered many qualified candidates and chose the best man for the job based on his qualifications and an ability to dramatically change a university athletic department that has literally accepted, nay coddled, failure in almost every area, we should be sound as a pound.

KSU, don't call me and ask for any $$ until you take winning in the Big XII seriously.  I will give my money to the frat instead, at least they take getting wasted and banging tri delts seriously.

LOL, didn't you guys go dry.

dry fraternities  :flush:

We did but after I left.  It isn't really dry, we just had to get Lew Perkins-like sneaky.  Opaque cups and jungle juice.

BTW Rick, I'm getting married in about 5 hours.  Tell me not to do it or meet us out after, probably hitting the P&L. 

You should probably go ahead and do it, you're kind of old. Congrats.

BTW-I'm moving back to Manhattan as soon as my place in Lawrence sells.

April 05, 2008, 02:23:20 PM
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Well my first reaction was WTF!!  But I am hearing good things, lots of emphasis on "doing things right" in terms of our future facilities.   Look for the football stadium improvements to be more dramatic than what Emporia State Timmy wanted to do (Imagine the press box being 3x's larger than it is now, 2 full practice courts in the new basketball facility instead of 1 full court etc. etc.)

April 05, 2008, 02:42:23 PM
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Well my first reaction was WTF!!  But I am hearing good things, lots of emphasis on "doing things right" in terms of our future facilities.   Look for the football stadium improvements to be more dramatic than what Emporia State Timmy wanted to do (Imagine the press box being 3x's larger than it is now, 2 full practice courts in the new basketball facility instead of 1 full court etc. etc.)

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April 05, 2008, 03:09:14 PM
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Well my first reaction was WTF!!  But I am hearing good things, lots of emphasis on "doing things right" in terms of our future facilities.   Look for the football stadium improvements to be more dramatic than what Emporia State Timmy wanted to do (Imagine the press box being 3x's larger than it is now, 2 full practice courts in the new basketball facility instead of 1 full court etc. etc.)

Wait a minute, are YOU Bob Krause?
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April 06, 2008, 09:13:33 AM
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This is certainly an interesting hire.

And regardless of what some other story a certain fat and balding sports writer might be trying to sell, there really wasn't a list of candidates or any interview process whatsoever that took place.

People connected with the KSU Foundation have been talking about this for over a month now.  That's where those on this site that leaked the news a couple days ahead of the resignation were getting their info.  One of the primary reasons Weiser jumped ship was because of his disagreement over the path the football program is taking with Weiser and Krause.  At the time, people were saying there was a huge confrontation because Wefald and Krause basically came to him with a mandate to give Prince a contract extension.  Yes, as unbelievable as that sounds, a contract extension for a 12-13 coach in year two of a five year contract.  So, he quits and Wefald internally appoints Krause to take over the position.  This has all been in the making for quite some time now.

The big differences I see over Weiser; with Krause, you are going to get a guy that is actually genuinely passionate about K-State sports.  You're going to get a guy that isn't going to be as passive in regard to the in-state relationship with ku.  There aren't going to be any performance bonuses based on year end profit margins for the department.  If the capital should be invested, it's going to be.  He will be much more agressive in terms of facility upgrades and fund raising.  His connection to Vanier is going to channel a ton more money in to the athletics.

His management skills pretty much speak for itself.  He's run the university for Wefald for well over a decade now.  He's opinionated and outspoken.  He's got a lot of friends and enemies on both sides.  Fom what I know of the guy, he's pretty polarizing.

The big first challenge is going to come when they announce Prince's extension.

For the most part I'm pretty encouraged, but there certainly are major question marks looming.  We'll see how it works out. 
« Last Edit: April 06, 2008, 10:52:21 AM by ~WabashRoll~ »


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April 06, 2008, 10:07:12 AM
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I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.
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April 06, 2008, 10:41:01 AM
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This is certainly an interesting hire.....

sounds like an impending disaster.  hope bball survives.
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April 06, 2008, 10:47:10 AM
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Vanier HATES Prince.  I think this has hilarious wag the dog potential with crazy old Jack threatening to cut off the Krause's inheritance (ala Billy Madison) and Krause capitulating, canning Prince and putting in some hours actually working instead of making endless trips to the coffee pot and filling his sketch book with scotch fueled afternoon noodling.
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April 06, 2008, 10:57:31 AM
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Vanier HATES Prince.  I think this has hilarious wag the dog potential with crazy old Jack threatening to cut off the Krause's inheritance (ala Billy Madison) and Krause capitulating, canning Prince and putting in some hours actually working instead of making endless trips to the coffee pot and filling his sketch book with scotch fueled afternoon noodling.

Well, Head AD John Wefald seems to think we've got the next Gary Pinkle on our hands, except for the proven D-1 track record, good recruiting, cohesive coaching staff, and positive signs of improvement.




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April 06, 2008, 10:59:04 AM
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Vanier HATES Prince.  I think this has hilarious wag the dog potential with crazy old Jack threatening to cut off the Krause's inheritance (ala Billy Madison) and Krause capitulating, canning Prince and putting in some hours actually working instead of making endless trips to the coffee pot and filling his sketch book with scotch fueled afternoon noodling.

Well, Head AD John Wefald seems to think we've got the next Gary Pinkle on our hands, except for the proven D-1 track record, good recruiting, cohesive coaching staff, and positive signs of improvement.




Wefald is gone in less than 3 years.
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April 06, 2008, 01:34:44 PM
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I don't know who to believe.  :ohno: :ohno:
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April 06, 2008, 01:54:44 PM
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This is certainly an interesting hire.....

sounds like an impending disaster.  hope bball survives.

QFT.
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April 06, 2008, 02:07:25 PM
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I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.

The only way I'll meltdown is if they (the Admin) don't put clauses in it that make it easy/less costly to buy out. 

Krause is gone when Wefald is and if Ronald puts up two more seasons of crap then money will talk enough to get his happy ass out. 

My hope is that Krause decides to not play by the rules like Lew.

April 06, 2008, 02:16:05 PM
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This is certainly an interesting hire.....

sounds like an impending disaster.  hope bball survives.

QFT.

Bball is going to be fine.  I'm actually not really worried about basketball in the slightest.

Word is Krause already wants to scrap Timmy's watered down, cheap skate one court basketball practice/training facility and do it the right way.  The financial comittment will be there.  

The decisions will be more controversial at times, but there isn't going to be the foot dragging and hyper-conservatism there was T-Dub.



« Last Edit: April 06, 2008, 02:25:13 PM by ~WabashRoll~ »


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April 07, 2008, 12:27:39 AM
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I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.

The only way I'll meltdown is if they (the Admin) don't put clauses in it that make it easy/less costly to buy out. 

Krause is gone when Wefald is
and if Ronald puts up two more seasons of crap then money will talk enough to get his happy ass out. 

My hope is that Krause decides to not play by the rules like Lew.
This likely isn't true.

April 07, 2008, 07:41:05 AM
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I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.

The only way I'll meltdown is if they (the Admin) don't put clauses in it that make it easy/less costly to buy out. 

Krause is gone when Wefald is
and if Ronald puts up two more seasons of crap then money will talk enough to get his happy ass out. 

My hope is that Krause decides to not play by the rules like Lew.
This likely isn't true.

Why?

April 07, 2008, 07:46:28 AM
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I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.

The only way I'll meltdown is if they (the Admin) don't put clauses in it that make it easy/less costly to buy out. 

Krause is gone when Wefald is
and if Ronald puts up two more seasons of crap then money will talk enough to get his happy ass out. 

My hope is that Krause decides to not play by the rules like Lew.
This likely isn't true.

Why?

Unless he wants to voluntarily go nobody is going to make him.  You don't bite the hand that feeds you (unless Vanier gives the blessing).
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April 07, 2008, 08:27:42 AM
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