Date: 28/08/25 - 16:58 PM   48060 Topics and 694399 Posts

Author Topic: AD named...  (Read 3260 times)

April 04, 2008, 11:12:13 AM
Read 3260 times

ksu_FAN

  • Second String Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 11401
« Last Edit: April 04, 2008, 11:14:07 AM by ksu_FAN »

April 04, 2008, 11:13:14 AM
Reply #1

catzacker

  • Junior Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 8304
  • Personal Text
    Fear the Brick

April 04, 2008, 11:14:25 AM
Reply #2

catzacker

  • Junior Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 8304
  • Personal Text
    Fear the Brick
uh, Fan, this is already being discussed thoroughly here: http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=25390.msg325206#new

April 04, 2008, 11:15:39 AM
Reply #3

ksu_FAN

  • Second String Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 11401
uh, Fan, this is already being discussed thoroughly here: http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=25390.msg325206#new


I see you have a time machine.

April 04, 2008, 11:15:52 AM
Reply #4

steve dave

  • Administrator
  • All American

  • Offline
  • ********

  • 23600
  • Personal Text
    Romantic Fist Attachment
Knew it was coming.  Dax, can we get a summary of the doings that led to this.  TIA.
<---------Click the ball

April 04, 2008, 11:19:24 AM
Reply #5

catzacker

  • Junior Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 8304
  • Personal Text
    Fear the Brick
I think Dax pretty much nailed it, except for the BK isn't going to be the next AD part. 

Here's a couple of things to consider.

They are biding their their time on the new AD hire.  Epps is managing the day-to-day office stuff.   Bob Krause is in the process of exploding Tim Weiser's strategic "vision" and implementing his own which is vastly more aggressive.   The earnest search for a new AD will likely start sometime in the weeks following the Final Four this weekend.   BK probably won't be the next AD, but I hear BK no longer wants to see a guy with "Emporia State" ideas at the helm, he wants somebody that thinks a lot bigger.

Oh, but I hate to break it too you guys . . . but the next AD hire will likely have to agree to give Prince at this season and next season minimum.   

April 04, 2008, 11:29:10 AM
Reply #6

cireksu

  • Guest
Why can't our school do anything good.

April 04, 2008, 11:33:45 AM
Reply #7

catzacker

  • Junior Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 8304
  • Personal Text
    Fear the Brick
Would an AD worth a damn want to come to KSU knowing that shortly his boss (Univ Pres) will retire and he'll get a new boss? 

I ask because our UP seems to be more involved in athletics and more supportive overall of athletics than most (or at least he's more outwardly supportive).  So therefore his retirement/leaving and the replacement, which would no doubt not be within, would pressumably be less "supportive/involved" in athletics.  There's good and bad to that. 

Also, I do like Krause's mustache more than Tim's goatee/fun manchu he used to have.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2008, 11:38:21 AM by catzacker »

April 04, 2008, 11:47:54 AM
Reply #8

sonofdaxjones

  • All American

  • Offline
  • ******

  • 15644
Why this is mostly good.   

Krause clearly has ties to big money. 

Krause is already blowing up Emporia State Tim's "master" facilities plans.   Krause wants it to be much more ambitious.   

Bad . . . Krause likes Prince.

April 04, 2008, 11:59:49 AM
Reply #9

Pete

  • Administrator
  • Scout Team Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ********

  • 6413
  • Personal Text
    Hicks
Why this is mostly good.   

Krause clearly has ties to big money. 

Krause is already blowing up Emporia State Tim's "master" facilities plans.   Krause wants it to be much more ambitious.   

Bad . . . Krause likes Prince.

If what Dax says is true about BK's ambition (and I don't doubt it), then I am happy with this.


Prince will hang himself with his own rope.  I could care less if Krause likes him.  The Pres (curent or future) will be forced to see to that.  In the mean time, Prince had better hope Frank continues to win.  He  needs the distraction.


April 04, 2008, 12:04:58 PM
Reply #10

Kat Kid

  • Administrator
  • Junior Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ********

  • 8821
  • Personal Text
    warm up the EMAW
Dax has done excellent reporting on this issue.
ksufanscopycat my friends.

April 04, 2008, 12:06:19 PM
Reply #11

steve dave

  • Administrator
  • All American

  • Offline
  • ********

  • 23600
  • Personal Text
    Romantic Fist Attachment
He kind'a looks like Captain Kangaroo.  Give him a bowl haircut and it's spot on.
<---------Click the ball

April 04, 2008, 12:14:27 PM
Reply #12

Pete

  • Administrator
  • Scout Team Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ********

  • 6413
  • Personal Text
    Hicks
He kind'a looks like Captain Kangaroo.  Give him a bowl haircut and it's spot on.






« Last Edit: April 04, 2008, 12:17:13 PM by mjrod »

April 04, 2008, 12:16:30 PM
Reply #13

ksu_FAN

  • Second String Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 11401
Why this is mostly good.   

Krause clearly has ties to big money. 

Krause is already blowing up Emporia State Tim's "master" facilities plans.   Krause wants it to be much more ambitious.   

Bad . . . Krause likes Prince.

The bad really isn't that bad.  If Prince continues to flounder like he has in many ways from November until now then Krause's hand will be forced.  No AD will let the money disappear that comes from football.

April 04, 2008, 12:37:53 PM
Reply #14

Jesus Shuttlesworth

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 1955
He kind'a looks like Captain Kangaroo.  Give him a bowl haircut and it's spot on.








Are you Jimmy Carter?  If so, thanks for trying to ruin this country. 
Welcome back, Bill.

April 04, 2008, 12:48:01 PM
Reply #15

catdude33

  • Guest
Serious Question(s):  What is the standard job description of the Athletic Director?  How important is having the right AD to the overall success of athletics?

The reason I ask is because it didn't seem like the hiring process was that big of a deal to most people.  I know they are in on hiring and the budget and stuff, but really, how vital is having a good AD to success in the two major sports?  :nerd:

April 04, 2008, 12:50:41 PM
Reply #16

Jesus Shuttlesworth

  • Cub

  • Offline

  • 1955
Question to ask yourself:

What other multi-million dollar enterprise would even consider hiring a guy with Krause's resume to be its CEO? 
Welcome back, Bill.

April 04, 2008, 12:51:54 PM
Reply #17

steve dave

  • Administrator
  • All American

  • Offline
  • ********

  • 23600
  • Personal Text
    Romantic Fist Attachment
Question to ask yourself:

What other multi-million dollar enterprise would even consider hiring a guy with Krause's resume to be its CEO? 

Non-profits primarily engaged in fundraising.  Pretty much his job as AD fwiw.
<---------Click the ball

April 04, 2008, 01:11:09 PM
Reply #18

catzacker

  • Junior Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 8304
  • Personal Text
    Fear the Brick
Question to ask yourself:

What other multi-million dollar enterprise would even consider hiring a guy with Krause's resume to be its CEO? 

I think it's an equal opportunity thing.  For years women have been screwing their way to the top, now we're giving a guy a chance to do the same thing. 

April 04, 2008, 01:50:13 PM
Reply #19

Pete

  • Administrator
  • Scout Team Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ********

  • 6413
  • Personal Text
    Hicks
Question to ask yourself:

What other multi-million dollar enterprise would even consider hiring a guy with Krause's resume to be its CEO? 

I think it's an equal opportunity thing.  For years women have been screwing their way to the top, now we're giving a guy a chance to do the same thing. 

Jesus, we are the most diverse university in America...

- Black football coach, with white wife
- Handicapped Defensive Coordinator
- Cuban MBB coach, with black wife
- Assistant MBB coach is a black guy from DC who get DUI's in a BMW (very urban/hip-hop)
- Lesbian WBB coach, posing as a fundamentalist christian
- Sexually empowered Trophy-Husband AD
- President is from the white part of Minnesota

It's like a sitcom.


April 04, 2008, 01:51:33 PM
Reply #20

steve dave

  • Administrator
  • All American

  • Offline
  • ********

  • 23600
  • Personal Text
    Romantic Fist Attachment
Jesus, we are the most diverse university in America...

- Black football coach, with white wife
- Handicapped Defensive Coordinator
- Cuban MBB coach, with black wife
- Assistant MBB coach is a black guy from DC who get DUI's in a BMW (very urban/hip-hop)
- Lesbian WBB coach, posing as a fundamentalist christian
- Sexually empowered Trophy-Husband AD
- President is from the white part of Minnesota

It's like a sitcom.

LOL
<---------Click the ball

April 04, 2008, 02:30:25 PM
Reply #21

SuperSoulFighter

  • Guest
Question to ask yourself:

What other multi-million dollar enterprise would even consider hiring a guy with Krause's resume to be its CEO? 

Question to ask yourself:

What other university would even consider hiring the CEO of a multi-million dollar enterprise to be it's AD?

April 04, 2008, 02:42:44 PM
Reply #22

catdude33

  • Guest
I'm a little more confused now than I was when I asked the questions.  I'd like Dax to respond because he usually knows a lot about stuff that I usually don't care about.

April 04, 2008, 02:51:11 PM
Reply #23

sonofdaxjones

  • All American

  • Offline
  • ******

  • 15644
Having a good AD is really important.   The thing is, we've had 3 straight bean counters as our AD at K-State.   Timmy was probably the best bean counter of the 3, because he had a partial clue as to how big time athletics is operated these days, but he took an Emporia State approach to everything.   Timmy wasn't really all that passionate about K-State, that's why all the, "Tim Weiser lets other people have the glory" was such Bull$hit.  You don't go out and raise a bunch of money sending the pissants in to do the work, you've got to have a closer.   I think Bob Krause is more of the "closer" type, and based on what I hear, he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff than Timmy Weiser ever wanted to be. 

April 04, 2008, 02:55:27 PM
Reply #24

steve dave

  • Administrator
  • All American

  • Offline
  • ********

  • 23600
  • Personal Text
    Romantic Fist Attachment
he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff

Excellent, hopefully he has got the Gary Barnett message. 
<---------Click the ball

April 04, 2008, 02:57:10 PM
Reply #25

KSUTOMMY

  • Senior Cub

  • Offline
  • *

  • 3578
  • Personal Text
    The "other" KSU
He kind'a looks like Captain Kangaroo.  Give him a bowl haircut and it's spot on.








Are you Jimmy Carter George Bush?  If so, thanks for trying to ruin this country. 

fixed it for ya! :thumbsup:

April 04, 2008, 02:59:05 PM
Reply #26

sonofdaxjones

  • All American

  • Offline
  • ******

  • 15644
Oh . . . if you ever listened closely to Timmy, he always talked about k-state being a "great experience for our student athletes" . . . hey, that's great, I mean what AD wouldn't want that right??  What that really was is resume talk . . . that screams league office, conference commish speak, "Hey, look at me, I didn't put any real pressure on anybody I hired to win, I just wanted a great experience for our student athletes."  Oh yeah that's excellent that's the kind of mentality we want to bring to the Big XX conference.  Tim Weiser, "Hey did I tell you about the black football coach I hired, and the extended contract I gave our women's basketball coach, and the female volleyball coach I hired, and the cuban basketball coach I hired.??  Yes outstanding, you're clearly a man of diverse visions.  




April 04, 2008, 03:01:11 PM
Reply #27

sys

  • Second String Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 10936
  • Personal Text
    gmafb
will krause &@#% up basketball?
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

April 04, 2008, 03:04:34 PM
Reply #28

fatty fat fat

  • Premium Member
  • Hall of Fame

  • Offline
  • *******

  • 29013
  • Personal Text
    The very best.
will krause frack up basketball?

have you seen him @ bball games?

he makes me look tame.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

April 04, 2008, 03:07:12 PM
Reply #29

catzacker

  • Junior Wildcat

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 8304
  • Personal Text
    Fear the Brick
he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff

Excellent, hopefully he has got the Gary Barnett message. 

QFT.  Although I think that Krause was a guy that was smitten with Prince during the "interview" process.