"Super" Tuesday

[cas]

Who cares for the Republicans.

Obama ( ) from the Dems.

[Kat Kid]

Obama won 6-1 in the delegate count in Manhattan. 

[sys]

Who cares for the Republicans.

Obama ( ) from the Dems.

isn't it more or less the opposite?

[J Rake]

Obama won 6-1 in the delegate count in Manhattan. 

I thought it'd be no worse than 5-2, maybe 4-3 Obama.

But to have 800+ of 1,069 people? Wow.

It's all good, though. Hillary is taking down the big states 

[waks]

Obama won 6-1 in the delegate count in Manhattan. 

I thought it'd be no worse than 5-2, maybe 4-3 Obama.

But to have 800+ of 1,069 people? Wow.

It's all good, though. Hillary is taking down the big states 

Obama is much more electable than Hillary. Big time blow to the Dems if Hillary wins the primaries. I'll be pissed.

[J Rake]

You are probably right. OK, you are definitely right.

But it will be a democrat no matter what, methinks.

John McCain? Really? No...

[cireksu]

Obama has set himself up for a big letdown with all the rhetoric IMO.

[steve dave]

with all the rhetoric

As opposed to which candidates non-rhetoric?

 

[cireksu]

with all the rhetoric

As opposed to which candidates non-rhetoric?

 

Obama's gone a little over the top IMO, with healthcare and the war.  LOL when he gets into office and comes out and says, "I've spoken with my military advisors and we're going to have to be there at least 2 more years, and it would be a mistake to set a timetable at this time"

[steve dave]

with all the rhetoric

As opposed to which candidates non-rhetoric?

 

Obama's gone a little over the top IMO, with healthcare and the war.  LOL when he gets into office and comes out and says, "I've spoken with my military advisors and we're going to have to be there at least 2 more years, and it would be a mistake to set a timetable at this time"

Oh, you like Rush Limbaugh, sorry...wasn't aware when I posed the question.

[cireksu]

with all the rhetoric

As opposed to which candidates non-rhetoric?

 

Obama's gone a little over the top IMO, with healthcare and the war.  LOL when he gets into office and comes out and says, "I've spoken with my military advisors and we're going to have to be there at least 2 more years, and it would be a mistake to set a timetable at this time"

Oh, you like Rush Limbaugh, sorry...wasn't aware when I posed the question.

give me a break, Obama is just hoping that more people hate the current admin than will vote for Mccain or huckabee.  Might work, but he'll set himself up for some brutal criticism.

[PCR]

LOL @ anyone who thinks the reason we can't get out of Iraq is attributable to anything other than the desires of the Bush/Cheney Empire.

Clinton may have it a little better on healthcare.  Either way the system we have now is utterly ridiculous.  Should people really be going bankrupt because they get a nasty disease?  More like our society is Morally bankrupt.

[J Rake]

My grandma still blames our country's problems on Hoover, though I'm sure she's thinking of somebody else. 

[sys]

Should people really be going bankrupt because they get a nasty disease?

yes, they should.  if doctors didn't have 7 figure salaries, the u.s. would have no doctors.  we'd be just like all the other doctorless countries.

[PCR]

Canada and Europe have no doctors? 

The problem is that we've let a system develop that is great for doctors and insurance companies and outright sucks for everyone else.  I'm all for innovation, and I think innovators need to be paid, but people should have a right to health care, and we should be compelled to pay for it through our taxes. 

[ChicagoCat]

Canada and Europe have no doctors? 

The problem is that we've let a system develop that is great for doctors and insurance companies and outright sucks for everyone else.  I'm all for innovation, and I think innovators need to be paid, but people should have a right to health care, and we should be compelled to pay for it through our taxes. 

Doctor's in those countries get very comparable salaries to what we offer, if only to keep them from leaving for the U.S.

[Trim]

http://www.freemarketcure.com/

[da govna]

Canada and Europe have no doctors? 

The problem is that we've let a system develop that is great for doctors and insurance companies and outright sucks for everyone else.  I'm all for innovation, and I think innovators need to be paid, but people should have a right to health care, and we should be compelled to pay for it through our taxes. 

Doctor's in those countries get very comparable salaries to what we offer, if only to keep them from leaving for the U.S.

uh no, not really.

[cireksu]

Canada and Europe have no doctors? 

The problem is that we've let a system develop that is great for doctors and insurance companies and outright sucks for everyone else.  I'm all for innovation, and I think innovators need to be paid, but people should have a right to health care, and we should be compelled to pay for it through our taxes. 

Healthcare is a private business, that won't change in this country. 

[mjrod]

LOL @ anyone who thinks the reason we can't get out of Iraq is attributable to anything other than the desires of the Bush/Cheney Empire.

Clinton may have it a little better on healthcare.  Either way the system we have now is utterly ridiculous.  Should people really be going bankrupt because they get a nasty disease?  More like our society is Morally bankrupt.

Morally bankrupt and Clinton was funny.

You need to get a tin hat dude.  I think aliens are trying to communicate with you.

[Kat Kid]

Somehow The Britain still has doctors.  Somehow France still has doctors.  Somehow Canada still has doctors.

I'm not saying that health care would be better for everyone, but imo it would be better for more.

The real burden the U.S. bears is in the pharma industry.  Every other nation instantly copies our drugs and provides them to their citizens for pennies on the dollar while we develop all of them and gouge our citizens to prop up the industry.

[steve dave]

Somehow The Britain still has doctors.  Somehow France still has doctors.  Somehow Canada still has doctors.

I'm not saying that health care would be better for everyone, but imo it would be better for more.

The real burden the U.S. bears is in the pharma industry.  Every other nation instantly copies our drugs and provides them to their citizens for pennies on the dollar while we develop all of them and gouge our citizens to prop up the industry.

We should find a way to make the EU countries and Canada foot more pharm. R&D bills. 

[steve dave]

Kind of a tangent but I LOL every time I'm in Mexico and walk into a drugstore and there is a 5,000 caplet over-the-counter container of cephalexon or amoxicillan for 50 cents.  No wonder that stuff doesn't work on any germs that still exist.

[Javert]

The real burden the U.S. bears is in the pharma industry.  Every other nation instantly copies our drugs and provides them to their citizens for pennies on the dollar while we develop all of them and gouge our citizens to prop up the industry.

Just like our movies.  And our music.   

[cireksu]

Somehow The Britain still has doctors.  Somehow France still has doctors.  Somehow Canada still has doctors.

I'm not saying that health care would be better for everyone, but imo it would be better for more.

The real burden the U.S. bears is in the pharma industry.  Every other nation instantly copies our drugs and provides them to their citizens for pennies on the dollar while we develop all of them and gouge our citizens to prop up the industry.

People in Canada, Britain, and France also don't live in 4 bedroom houses, on half an acre of land with 5 cars, and commute 30min- and hour to work, have 2 refrigerators and a freezer in the garage, in the way that americans do.

different standards for living.

[Kat Kid]

Somehow The Britain still has doctors.  Somehow France still has doctors.  Somehow Canada still has doctors.

I'm not saying that health care would be better for everyone, but imo it would be better for more.

The real burden the U.S. bears is in the pharma industry.  Every other nation instantly copies our drugs and provides them to their citizens for pennies on the dollar while we develop all of them and gouge our citizens to prop up the industry.

People in Canada, Britain, and France also don't live in 4 bedroom houses, on half an acre of land with 5 cars, and commute 30min- and hour to work, have 2 refrigerators and a freezer in the garage, in the way that americans do.

different standards for living.

Part of that is because they don't have as much land.

[PCR]

I'm not sure wanting to be out of Iraq and having health care for every American would put me in the "extremist" category. 

I have a Canadian friend who's family moved to Kansas because his dad is a doctor and wanted to make more money.  I can see both sides of the issue (single payer vs. free market.)  We definitely get more innovative treatment due to the free market.  But how many cancer treatments can we make for each bomb we drop on the Iraqis?  Oh nevermind we can't even afford to drop bombs on people.. we'll make sure our kids pay the Chinese interest for that privilege down the road. 

[Rick Daris]

Double LOL at anyone thinking that the Dr. down the street has anything to do with the rising cost of healthcare. Reimubursements for most procedures are shrinking, denials are increasing and the cost of doing business with increased documentation, etc. are going up as well.

You might want to think about insurance companies, people who own stock in them and the CEO's who give themselves hundred million dollar bonuses.

http://hcrenewal.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-can-1248-million-year-ceo-make.html

[cireksu]

Somehow The Britain still has doctors.  Somehow France still has doctors.  Somehow Canada still has doctors.

I'm not saying that health care would be better for everyone, but imo it would be better for more.

The real burden the U.S. bears is in the pharma industry.  Every other nation instantly copies our drugs and provides them to their citizens for pennies on the dollar while we develop all of them and gouge our citizens to prop up the industry.

People in Canada, Britain, and France also don't live in 4 bedroom houses, on half an acre of land with 5 cars, and commute 30min- and hour to work, have 2 refrigerators and a freezer in the garage, in the way that americans do.

different standards for living.

Part of that is because they don't have as much land.

They also have a fraction of total population, and don't have anywhere near the violent crime and especially the immigration issues that we have.

don't get me wrong, I believe that our system is morally wrong, It can work, but we'll sure pay for it, and have HUGE costs outside of financial.  We'll have to have a whole culture change.

[kougar24]

http://www.freemarketcure.com/

You rock.