anyone else about to have a meltdown regarding the defense/future of defense?

[WildWillie21]

Fwiw...Guidry's not as big as advertised. Met him a couple weeks ago, and he's more 250ish.

[fatty fat fat]

unfortunately I took this exit off the main road and this thread instead read "Welcome to Tardville".

 

thanks fatt.  still luv ya but...

 

lack of pms = my fbiq falling.


 

[ksuno1stunner]

Fwiw...Guidry's not as big as advertised. Met him a couple weeks ago, and he's more 250ish.

276 is official, so it's right!!!

[cireksu]

how tall is he???

[The Manhatter]

Fwiw...Guidry's not as big as advertised. Met him a couple weeks ago, and he's more 250ish.

prolly because he had season ending surgery.

Big dude + surgery = usually smaller dude for a while

(example: Stevie Ray Cline weighing 270 last spring)

thanks for the vine.

 

[scoopeloo]

this thing isn't going to get turned around for a while.  It took Mangino and Pinkel several years to become good, not great.  From what we've seen from Prince in recruiting, we should expect a similar timeline.  I actually think he is greatly overachieving right now, which is giving fans a little too much optimism.  I think they have definiately improved over last year, but I don't know what's going to happen to an already bad defense when it's best players graduate.

[fatty fat fat]

this thing isn't going to get turned around for a while.  It took Mangino and Pinkel several years to become good, not great.  From what we've seen from Prince in recruiting, we should expect a similar timeline.  I actually think he is greatly overachieving right now, which is giving fans a little too much optimism.  I think they have definiately improved over last year, but I don't know what's going to happen to an already bad defense when it's best players graduate.

After two seasons Mangino was 3-13, Pinkel 5-11.

Please don't compare Prince to those two.

[chum1]

Wasn't Lamark Brown supposed to be some kind of linebacker stud?

[steve dave]

Won't Wasn't Lamark Brown supposed to be some kind of linebacker stud?

Yes

[catzacker]

Wasn't Lamark Brown supposed to be some kind of linebacker stud?

I wish.   

No one will convince me that Lamark wouldn't be a better option than Childs at LB. 

[steve dave]

Wasn't Lamark Brown supposed to be some kind of linebacker stud?

I wish.   

No one will convince me that Lamark wouldn't be a better option than Childs at LB. 

Zacker, you may be a better option than Childs at LB. 

[cireksu]

I just watched the replay of OSU on passport and it is undeniable that

1.  our Dline particularly the ends do not require double teams to block.  They pretty much never contained the option and forced the pitch, to the point that at the end of the game there were several times that we had 2 lb's going for the qb and losing the contain when the pitch was made.

2.  As a result of 1 their guards had a field day with our inside linebackers who were nowhere to be found on almost all the inside running plays.

3.  As a result of 1 and 2 we had guys over pursuing and not doing their job because they were trying to make up for others not getting it done.

[kstate16]

Like I always say, if this board existed back about 10 years ago we'd be like this  on a lot of the guys we recruited. 

Imagine reading the KC Star and seeing that KSU had offered a scholarship to a (what appeared to be based on viewing and stats) mediocre linebacker from a sucky Shawnee Mission South team by the name of Travis Ochs. 

Let the system mature a little more across the board before passing judgement . . . and no I am not saying the concerns aren't valid either.

Whoa, Travis Ochs was from SMS? No way!