Lance Harris - info

[kougar24]

MJ, can we get Zlatorog added to the sidebar scoreboard?

[steve dave]

Osemkotnik pogube

One Bajillion board cred points to you if you attend a game with a purple octagon sign bearing that and get photos posted on here.  I am serious, one bajillion. 

[Trim]

Newem,

Is it feasible for European teams to use all of their American roster spots on players from one school, and create a loose partnership of sorts?  I'd follow a foreign team that had Harris, Massey, et al. all playing together, especially if you played other foreign teams with the same complement of ex-players from our rival schools (texas, usc, etc.).  Then it would be exceptionally cool for that Euro team to come play the current KSU in a preseason exhibition.

Only theoretically. But in real life I would say no. In most of European leagues you are allowed to register only 3 non-European players(That's why Massey is applying for a Slovakian passport), the other reason is that the fans like to see a native and a successful team on the field. But that's not always possible so they bring foreigners to play as leaders and not to sit on the bench. 

I knew of the rule limiting non-Euros.  I'm talking about Euro teams dedicating their 3 American spots to guys from one school.  So 9 Euros or natives teamed with 3 alumni from the same school.

What is the geographic shape of Zlatorog's arena?  I wouldn't be opposed to a Hexagon of Doom if that's more applicable.

Regarding 'gons of doom, do you have any idea what the &@#% we're talking about?

[sys]

I knew of the rule limiting non-Euros.  I'm talking about Euro teams dedicating their 3 American spots to guys from one school.  So 9 Euros or natives teamed with 3 alumni from the same school.

one way to really encourage this to happen would be if school based internet subscription services (like passport, or all the pay yahoo broadcasts) were to pay the euro teams for broadcast rights and include those games in the package.

[steve dave]

I knew of the rule limiting non-Euros.  I'm talking about Euro teams dedicating their 3 American spots to guys from one school.  So 9 Euros or natives teamed with 3 alumni from the same school.

one way to really encourage this to happen would be if school based internet subscription services (like passport, or all the pay yahoo broadcasts) were to pay the euro teams for broadcast rights and include those games in the package.

As noted above this would not work because of the Euro>Dollar conversion rate.  If, say, a subscription cost 10 Euros over there it would equal roughley $9,500 a month here.  Great idea otherwise.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

So it has been a while since I last wrote here, I see steve dave is still making fun of me and here's a little update on Lance.
Lances stats: http://server4.mbt.lt/prod/kzs/index.php/b19sYW5nPWhlJm9fc2Vhcz0xJm9fbGVhZz0xJmZ1c2VhY3Rpb249cGxheWVycy5tYWluJnQ9MTMmcD00Mjc=
Here is his profile at the official page of Zlatorog:http://www.kosarkarskiklub-lasko.si/igralec.php?id=28
My opinion: I think Lance is still getting used to European basketball making little mistakes like traveling but the last few games he has played really great and improved his game. I hope, that he wins the dunk competition in late December because he really is an amazing athlete. I think the only competition to him at the moment is Ronell Taylor, who plays for olimpija, which plays in the euroleague. Oh, I almost forgot Zlatorog is 6-1 at the moment.
That's all for now. If anybody has some questions, post them up and I'll answer them.

Ohhhh, I HATE olimpija.  They are rivals!

[kougar24]

The only strange signs that my language has are š,č,ž,ć

Is 'ž' the one that's virtually impossible for us Americans to pronounce?

[newem]

I knew of the rule limiting non-Euros.  I'm talking about Euro teams dedicating their 3 American spots to guys from one school.  So 9 Euros or natives teamed with 3 alumni from the same school.

That would work, but at the moment I don't think that Messey and Harris are on the same basketball level, but it could work.

What is the geographic shape of Zlatorog's arena?  I wouldn't be opposed to a Hexagon of Doom if that's more applicable.

I only found 2 small pictures of the arena , but it's in the shape of a rectangle.

Regarding 'gons of doom, do you have any idea what the frack we're talking about?

Got my own opinion, but I would still like to hear an explanation. And I would like to know what's up with David Hoskins? Is he injured or suspended or something? I saw some movie clips of Lance and most of the alley-ops were thrown by Hoskins.

Ohhhh, I HATE olimpija.  They are rivals!

You can say that again.

As noted above this would not work because of the Euro>Dollar conversion rate.  If, say, a subscription cost 10 Euros over there it would equal roughley $9,500 a month here.  Great idea otherwise.

Well, you can watch the games of Aris(the club where Messey plays) on the internet, if anyone is interested, ask me where. For Lance you can only watch live statistic. And if you want to watch other KSU graduates let me now their name and I'll look them up and see if anything is possible.
10 € are about 15 $.

Is 'ž' the one that's virtually impossible for us Americans to pronounce?

Well you pronounce č and ć as ch and s as sh.
For ž I'll give you an example and you tell me if you can pronounce it. Zydrunas Ilgauskas's first name is in fact pronounced Žydrunas.

[Super PurpleCat]

I'm a fan of this thread.

BTW, the only thing I really know of Slovenia is that in nearby Croatia is Pula, which is the city where the Von Trapp family are originally from (Sound of Music).  This all used to be part of the Austria-Hungarian Empire..so...yea...

[highway61]

I believe the unpronounceable sound you are referring to is Czech.  It sounds something like a cross between a Z and the second G in garage.  When I tried to pronounce it in front of Czech people they laughed and laughed.

[newem]

I believe the unpronounceable sound you are referring to is Czech.  It sounds something like a cross between a Z and the second G in garage.  When I tried to pronounce it in front of Czech people they laughed and laughed.

Something like that.
Just watched the game between Cibona and Aris an I can say that Massey had another great game, his stats are on the Euroleague's website.

[pissclams]

Massey is great so it's no surprise he would have a great game, hope he gets to your team.

[steve dave]

Massey is great so it's no surprise he would have a great game, hope he gets to your team.

Massey is raking it in over there.  With the Euro at all time highs vs. the dollar he makes roughly as much as the Los Angeles Lakers entire team.  I believe a regulation basketball costs around $90 in the US which eqauls about 0.4 Euros.  So, say his salary is 75,000 Euros a year, he would be making about $95,000,000 in US dollars per year.  Talk about BANK! 

[sys]

So, say his salary is 75,000 Euros a year, he would be making about $95,000,000 in US dollars per year.  Talk about BANK! 

prolly crazy bank.  he's on a high profile team, i'm sure he makes more than 75k e/year.

[pissclams]

if i remember correctly they are paid tax free and are given a car + housing as well.  at least some are imo.

[steve dave]

So, say his salary is 75,000 Euros a year, he would be making about $95,000,000 in US dollars per year.  Talk about BANK! 

prolly crazy bank.  he's on a high profile team, i'm sure he makes more than 75k e/year.

You forget the Euro to $ exchange rate (<  )  If you would have invested in Euros when $1 was equal to 1 Euro you would have roughley $14,000 for every $1 you had invested.  Crazy, I know.

[newem]

So, say his salary is 75,000 Euros a year, he would be making about $95,000,000 in US dollars per year.  Talk about BANK! 

prolly crazy bank.  he's on a high profile team, i'm sure he makes more than 75k e/year.

You forget the Euro to $ exchange rate (<  )  If you would have invested in Euros when $1 was equal to 1 Euro you would have roughley $14,000 for every $1 you had invested.  Crazy, I know.

Stop with the silly exchange rate. 1€ equals 1.47$, end of story. Massey is getting around 450k $ a season.
And Zlatorog haven't got nearly enough money to pay Massey.

[steve dave]

So, say his salary is 75,000 Euros a year, he would be making about $95,000,000 in US dollars per year.  Talk about BANK! 

prolly crazy bank.  he's on a high profile team, i'm sure he makes more than 75k e/year.

You forget the Euro to $ exchange rate (<  )  If you would have invested in Euros when $1 was equal to 1 Euro you would have roughley $14,000 for every $1 you had invested.  Crazy, I know.

Stop with the silly exchange rate. 1€ equals 1.47$, end of story. Massey is getting around 450k $ a season.
And Zlatorog haven't got nearly enough money to pay Massey.

LOL     I am just messing with you.

Another question:  How did you get interested in hoops?  Did you play over there?  Do most of your school systems have basketball?  Did you know you can vacation in the US for pennies a day  ?

[sys]

Stop with the silly exchange rate. 1€ equals 1.47$, end of story. Massey is getting around 450k $ a season.
And Zlatorog haven't got nearly enough money to pay Massey.

how much does harris make?  do american-born players and european natives usually have equivalent salaries?  do teams negotiate american-born players' salaries in dollars or euros (or other for non-eurozone leagues)?

[steve dave]

do teams negotiate american-born players' salaries in dollars or euros (or other for non-eurozone leagues)?

Isn't there a story about some hoopster in the US thniking he just signed some monster contract (obviously before the Euro pwnt the $) and he got over there and was making, like, $8k a year?  May have been baseball.  May have halucinated it also.

[newem]

So, say his salary is 75,000 Euros a year, he would be making about $95,000,000 in US dollars per year.  Talk about BANK! 

prolly crazy bank.  he's on a high profile team, i'm sure he makes more than 75k e/year.

You forget the Euro to $ exchange rate (<  )  If you would have invested in Euros when $1 was equal to 1 Euro you would have roughley $14,000 for every $1 you had invested.  Crazy, I know.

Stop with the silly exchange rate. 1€ equals 1.47$, end of story. Massey is getting around 450k $ a season.
And Zlatorog haven't got nearly enough money to pay Massey.

LOL     I am just messing with you.

Another question:  How did you get interested in hoops?  Did you play over there?  Do most of your school systems have basketball? 

The sad thing is that I know that your messing with me and I still correct your posts.
In Europe you start to train with the club and you go trough different sections(pioneers < 14 years, cadets < 16 years and youths < 18 years) and then you hopefully become a pro and make the first team. In rare cases (like Ricky Rubio) very young players get a first team spot and can develop at a higher level. Our schools do have basketball teams, but the players don't get scholarships and don't train at schools(because they train at clubs).

Did you know you can vacation in the US for pennies a day  ?

And then you wake up and realize that you had a nightmare, eh?  I've been thinking to take a summer job in the USA this summer, so I would like to know in which city should I search for summer jobs? Any recommendations?

do american-born players and european natives usually have equivalent salaries?  

It mostly depends from player to player.

how much does harris make?  

I have no idea, any number that I write is just a pure guess. In Europe most clubs hide their players salaries, but I don't know why.

do teams negotiate american-born players' salaries in dollars or euros (or other for non-eurozone leagues)?

At the moment the most European clubs pay the American players in dollars, because of the low value of dollar against euro.

Isn't there a story about some hoopster in the US thniking he just signed some monster contract (obviously before the Euro pwnt the $) and he got over there and was making, like, $8k a year?  May have been baseball.  May have halucinated it also.

It certainly wasn't baseball, because baseball and american football just aren't popular in Europe, as handball and football(soccer) isn't popular in America.

[steve dave]

At the moment the most European clubs pay the American players in dollars, because of the low value of dollar against euro.

HAAA!  I knew it!   

[sys]

I've been thinking to take a summer job in the USA this summer, so I would like to know in which city should I search for summer jobs? Any recommendations?

what sort of job?

what sort of recommendation?  easiest place to find a job in whatever it is you want to do?  or nicest place to spend a summer?

[Trim]

Chipotle.  Manhattan, KS.

[michigancat]

How can I watch Massey's games online?

[Kat Kid]

Chipotle.  Manhattan, KS.

TERRIBLE IDEA!

very high stress job imo.

Proper sour cream dollops, burrito rolls and hand whipping the sour cream is exhausting fwiw.

[steve dave]

And then you wake up and realize that you had a nightmare, eh?  I've been thinking to take a summer job in the USA this summer, so I would like to know in which city should I search for summer jobs? Any recommendations?

I would suggest East St. Louis, IL.  It has great culture, sites, hearty job market, just a real American experience all around.  Plus, it's somewhat of a melting pot so you would get a real feel for the rest of the country.

[newem]

How can I watch Massey's games online?

I'll post a link if some free-TV is will show it.

I would suggest East St. Louis, IL.  It has great culture, sites, hearty job market, just a real American experience all around.  Plus, it's somewhat of a melting pot so you would get a real feel for the rest of the country.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll search if anybody has got an opening for a summer job as a victim of homicide.

Today Zlatorog is playing against Rogla, which has a long injury list(4 starters), so I expect some flying dunks from Harris and some minutes for the youth players. I'll post some pics of the game.

[cireksu]

How can I watch Massey's games online?

I'll post a link if some free-TV is will show it.

I would suggest East St. Louis, IL.  It has great culture, sites, hearty job market, just a real American experience all around.  Plus, it's somewhat of a melting pot so you would get a real feel for the rest of the country.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll search if anybody has got an opening for a summer job as a victim of homicide.

[Cat Maniac]

newem is my favourite (<--- spelled this way for newem) non-KSU poster of all time.