Did any of your opinions of Prince change after the Auburn game?

[S. Parker]

I thought it kind of silenced the naysayers that were calling his good wins last year flukes. He seems to be a pretty good coach, and I had doubts about his coaching leading up to that game.

I always thought you could pull the upset, but I didn't think you would outplay them most of the game like that in hostile territory. Obviously you lost, but it was still an impressive showing.

[McGrowlTowelZac]

Not really, I agree with most of what you said.  He may have made a few coaching errors, but he is still in his second year. 

Cant complain too much, like you said, we were in control of that game up until 3-4 minutes left.  We just have to learn how to win big games. 

[doom]

I disagree that it's about not knowing how to win big games?  Didn't we finish against Texas?  That sh:t happens sometimes.  If we'd won, would people say that Tuberville didn't know how to win big games?

[waks]

I'm more confident about him now. I'm still not entirely sold because of how fluky last year was. If we show more consistency this year then I'll be happy.

[ECN]

we made some HUGE bonehead plays. HUGE, that kept their drive and momentum going.

personal on the kicker.....yeah. nice move. why not call off the block.?

that f'n killed us

coaches have to get control of idiot plays like that.

i like him just fine though.

[Pittcat]

My opinion is pretty much the same.  The man is a very intelligent student of the game who will never quit learning.  If his scheduling starts to pay dividends with regards to recruiting, which I think it will, then Coach Prince will have a very bright future in Manhattan.

[ksuno1stunner]

Of course not, this game merely proved what I had already thought of him.

EMAW!!!

 

[doom]

we made some HUGE bonehead plays. HUGE, that kept their drive and momentum going.

personal on the kicker.....yeah. nice move. why not call off the block.?

that f'n killed us

coaches have to get control of idiot plays like that.

That kicker f-ing had it coming. 

[ECN]

im sure he did.

but it killed us.

[McGrowlTowelZac]

I disagree that it's about not knowing how to win big games?  Didn't we finish against Texas?  That sh:t happens sometimes.  If we'd won, would people say that Tuberville didn't know how to win big games?

We almost didn't win that Texas game, that game was closer than it should have been.  That was an example of not closing a team out.  

Don't get me wrong though, I think Prince is going to be a quality coach and I am very happy to have him on our sideline.

[waks]

we made some HUGE bonehead plays. HUGE, that kept their drive and momentum going.

personal on the kicker.....yeah. nice move. why not call off the block.?

that f'n killed us

coaches have to get control of idiot plays like that.

i like him just fine though.

Dude. You just said go for the throat in another thread and now you're saying play conservative...Just sayin'.

im sure he did.

but it killed us.

That personal foul didn't kill us unless you think it ruined our momentum or you think fifteen yards was really that big of a deal. I think the potential rewards were worth the attempt, personally.

[waks]

I disagree that it's about not knowing how to win big games?  Didn't we finish against Texas?  That sh:t happens sometimes.  If we'd won, would people say that Tuberville didn't know how to win big games?

We almost didn't win that Texas game, that game was closer than it should have been.  That was an example of not closing a team out. 

Don't get me wrong though, I think Prince is going to be a quality coach and I am very happy to have him on our sideline.

We definitely closed out the Texas game. Almost losing doesn't matter. Would you say that Auburn didn't "close out" their game against us? Snodgrass nailing hat field goal and Jordy getting that first down were examples of us "closing it out."

[McGrowlTowelZac]

I disagree that it's about not knowing how to win big games?  Didn't we finish against Texas?  That sh:t happens sometimes.  If we'd won, would people say that Tuberville didn't know how to win big games?

We almost didn't win that Texas game, that game was closer than it should have been.  That was an example of not closing a team out. 

Don't get me wrong though, I think Prince is going to be a quality coach and I am very happy to have him on our sideline.

We definitely closed out the Texas game. Almost losing doesn't matter. Would you say that Auburn didn't "close out" their game against us? Snodgrass nailing hat field goal and Jordy getting that first down were examples of us "closing it out."

I just don't think it should have ever come down to Snodgrass's field goal, we were up and let Texas get 2 easy touchdowns to get back in it.

[waks]

I disagree that it's about not knowing how to win big games?  Didn't we finish against Texas?  That sh:t happens sometimes.  If we'd won, would people say that Tuberville didn't know how to win big games?

We almost didn't win that Texas game, that game was closer than it should have been.  That was an example of not closing a team out. 

Don't get me wrong though, I think Prince is going to be a quality coach and I am very happy to have him on our sideline.

We definitely closed out the Texas game. Almost losing doesn't matter. Would you say that Auburn didn't "close out" their game against us? Snodgrass nailing hat field goal and Jordy getting that first down were examples of us "closing it out."

I just don't think it should have ever come down to Snodgrass's field goal, we were up and let Texas get 2 easy touchdowns to get back in it.

We closed it out. Whether you think it shouldn't have gotten that close doesn't matter. We won the game. That is closing it out.

[doom]

I disagree that it's about not knowing how to win big games?  Didn't we finish against Texas?  That sh:t happens sometimes.  If we'd won, would people say that Tuberville didn't know how to win big games?

We almost didn't win that Texas game, that game was closer than it should have been.  That was an example of not closing a team out. 

Don't get me wrong though, I think Prince is going to be a quality coach and I am very happy to have him on our sideline.

We definitely closed out the Texas game. Almost losing doesn't matter. Would you say that Auburn didn't "close out" their game against us? Snodgrass nailing hat field goal and Jordy getting that first down were examples of us "closing it out."

I just don't think it should have ever come down to Snodgrass's field goal, we were up and let Texas get 2 easy touchdowns to get back in it.

We closed it out. Whether you think it shouldn't have gotten that close doesn't matter. We won the game. That is closing it out.

I have to agree.  I would have loved to have controlled that game or blown Texas out, but it was a W in the win column no matter how you slice it.

[McGrowlTowelZac]

I disagree that it's about not knowing how to win big games?  Didn't we finish against Texas?  That sh:t happens sometimes.  If we'd won, would people say that Tuberville didn't know how to win big games?

We almost didn't win that Texas game, that game was closer than it should have been.  That was an example of not closing a team out. 

Don't get me wrong though, I think Prince is going to be a quality coach and I am very happy to have him on our sideline.

We definitely closed out the Texas game. Almost losing doesn't matter. Would you say that Auburn didn't "close out" their game against us? Snodgrass nailing hat field goal and Jordy getting that first down were examples of us "closing it out."

I just don't think it should have ever come down to Snodgrass's field goal, we were up and let Texas get 2 easy touchdowns to get back in it.

We closed it out. Whether you think it shouldn't have gotten that close doesn't matter. We won the game. That is closing it out.

It was a win, and I am happy at that.  Just wish we would have closed with a little more authority...

[ECN]

we made some HUGE bonehead plays. HUGE, that kept their drive and momentum going.

personal on the kicker.....yeah. nice move. why not call off the block.?

that f'n killed us

coaches have to get control of idiot plays like that.

i like him just fine though.

Dude. You just said go for the throat in another thread and now you're saying play conservative...Just sayin'.

im sure he did.

but it killed us.

That personal foul didn't kill us unless you think it ruined our momentum or you think fifteen yards was really that big of a deal. I think the potential rewards were worth the attempt, personally.

dude. there is a difference between the two. they sent only ONE to block the punt..who does that? if you want to block it, flood the motherfracking front line.

potential rewards? you must play the lottery then. a blocked punt was not guaranteed. the attempt cost us points.

[waks]

we made some HUGE bonehead plays. HUGE, that kept their drive and momentum going.

personal on the kicker.....yeah. nice move. why not call off the block.?

that f'n killed us

coaches have to get control of idiot plays like that.

i like him just fine though.

Dude. You just said go for the throat in another thread and now you're saying play conservative...Just sayin'.

im sure he did.

but it killed us.

That personal foul didn't kill us unless you think it ruined our momentum or you think fifteen yards was really that big of a deal. I think the potential rewards were worth the attempt, personally.

dude. there is a difference between the two. they sent only ONE to block the punt..who does that? if you want to block it, flood the motherfracking front line.

potential rewards? you must play the lottery then. a blocked punt was not guaranteed. the attempt cost us points.

ECN. It was fifteen yards. They went three and out on their very next series. And it was a bullsh*t call at that. We wouldn't have won the game if we hadn't been flagged for the penalty. We would have won the game if we had blocked the punt. I don't recall only sending one to the line either, I thought A. Moore was just the closest to blocking it by far..

[ECN]

it could have been that i was drunk.

[waks]

it could have been that i was drunk.

It's cool.



Friend?

[ECN]

we've always been friends waks.

[fatty fat fat]

I thought it kind of silenced the naysayers that were calling his good wins last year flukes. He seems to be a pretty good coach, and I had doubts about his coaching leading up to that game.

I always thought you could pull the upset, but I didn't think you would outplay them most of the game like that in hostile territory. Obviously you lost, but it was still an impressive showing.

It did, until "the" hatter post. 

[McGrowlTowelZac]

I thought it kind of silenced the naysayers that were calling his good wins last year flukes. He seems to be a pretty good coach, and I had doubts about his coaching leading up to that game.

I always thought you could pull the upset, but I didn't think you would outplay them most of the game like that in hostile territory. Obviously you lost, but it was still an impressive showing.

It did, until "the" hatter post. 

which hatter post?

[KungFoooKitty]

To sum up my answer to the initial question: No

Brevity is beautiful :matrix:

[AzCat]

No here as well.  I'd still like to see Ron make it at KSU but I still question his ability to recruit Big XII level talent consistently and in the end that will make or break his stay here.  After the offseason exodus I also have begun to question: a) his hiring choices; and/or b) his ability to retain staff. 

[turbowildcat]

I'm more confident about him now. I'm still not entirely sold because of how fluky last year was. If show more consistency this year then I'll be happy.

I agree, the reason Bill was great was he won the games he was suppose to, rather than the big ones. I still will take a coach like Snyder that wins alot and beats the easy one instead of a coach that doesn't quite win as much but beats the big teams.

[turbowildcat]

I disagree that it's about not knowing how to win big games?  Didn't we finish against Texas?  That sh:t happens sometimes.  If we'd won, would people say that Tuberville didn't know how to win big games?

We almost didn't win that Texas game, that game was closer than it should have been.  That was an example of not closing a team out.  

Don't get me wrong though, I think Prince is going to be a quality coach and I am very happy to have him on our sideline.

You guys have some good points on closing people out. But we still don't have the o-line to help with a running games. If you can't run out the clock with a running game then it makes the 4th quarter much more diffucult. Look at texas Tech, fun to watch but they usually have to come from behind to win a game.

[S. Parker]

No here as well.  I'd still like to see Ron make it at KSU but I still question his ability to recruit Big XII level talent consistently and in the end that will make or break his stay here.  After the offseason exodus I also have begun to question: a) his hiring choices; and/or b) his ability to retain staff. 

The question about his recruiting may turn out to hold merit, but now that we know he can coach then I guess we give him the benefit of the doubt for now on recruiting. Besides, unless I'm mistaken I saw several of his recruits contributing in that game.

[McGrowlTowelZac]

No here as well.  I'd still like to see Ron make it at KSU but I still question his ability to recruit Big XII level talent consistently and in the end that will make or break his stay here.  After the offseason exodus I also have begun to question: a) his hiring choices; and/or b) his ability to retain staff. 

The question about his recruiting may turn out to hold merit, but now that we know he can coach then I guess we give him the benefit of the doubt for now on recruiting. Besides, unless I'm mistaken I saw several of his recruits contributing in that game.

If continues to have success, then the recruits will come.  they will want to play the big time games he is scheduling, and be a part of the winning...if it keeps happening

[vanro031]

He's getting fat. ku kinda fat.. Whats up with pigs being coaches in the state of Kansas?