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[ksu_FAN]

Also keep in mind who is recruiting for uk now.  Smith seemed to go after more high end recruits there, and if Gillispie's recruiting at aTm is any indication, he's going to go after guys with rankings, but also guys he thinks will "fit" his program and style.  I expect he'll recruit a few more guys that might not be Top 100 kids (and their fans probably won't like it), but I think he'll get some pretty good kids. 

I suppose our last guy you might consider to be a true sleeper would be Hoskins.

[KSU4ME]

Where are you getting your offer list from?  And LOL @ you throwing in a straw man in that post.

Strawman?  You saying I tossed out an offer list is the strawman in this discussion.  I did no such thing, in fact, I asked who had offered him.

Why is it when you're pressed on any issue you trot out your strawman defense? 

At best you have Ohio and NC State offering, though I haven't seen anything that says NCST did offer.  Yet you think that qualifies him as a non-sleeper.

Hilarious.  Really.

[ksu_FAN]

Where are you getting your offer list from?  And LOL @ you throwing in a straw man in that post.

Strawman?  You saying I tossed out an offer list is the strawman in this discussion.  I did no such thing, in fact, I asked who had offered him.

Why is it when you're pressed on any issue you trot out your strawman defense? 

At best you have Ohio and NC State offering, though I haven't seen anything that says NCST did offer.  Yet you think that qualifies him as a non-sleeper.

Hilarious.  Really.

It is mentioned on rivals and it was all over a Raleigh newspaper at the time.  NC State wanted him bad and Wooly won out.  Besides, its not uncommon for Top 20 JUCOs to have a couple of majors and mix of mid-majors on their lists.  JUCO kids go places for all kinds of reasons. 

All we are saying is that Richards > sleeper.  I don't know why this is a big deal.

[KSU4ME]

It is mentioned on rivals and it was all over a Raleigh newspaper at the time.  NC State wanted him bad and Wooly won out.  Besides, its not uncommon for Top 20 JUCOs to have a couple of majors and mix of mid-majors on their lists.  JUCO kids go places for all kinds of reasons. 

All we are saying is that Richards > sleeper.  I don't know why this is a big deal.

I never saw that NC State offered him, just know that he never visited.  And as Rusty said, LOL at Rivals offer lists.

And that still seems an awfully low hurdle to clear to be considered not a sleeper. 

[michigancat]

Where are you getting your offer list from?  And LOL @ you throwing in a straw man in that post.

Strawman?  You saying I tossed out an offer list is the strawman in this discussion.  I did no such thing, in fact, I asked who had offered him.

Why is it when you're pressed on any issue you trot out your strawman defense? 

At best you have Ohio and NC State offering, though I haven't seen anything that says NCST did offer.  Yet you think that qualifies him as a non-sleeper.

Hilarious.  Really.

You're just arguing semantics.  Comparing this Stutz kid to Frank Richards is borderline retarded.  There is really no comparison between the two at all in terms of how they were "overlooked" in recruiting.  Stutz doesn't even have a freaking Rivals profile yet, and didn't have a scout profile until yesterday.  Hell, he wasn't even good enough to play with his current AAU team in the Price Chopper Invitational last summer...Frank Richards, on the other hand, signed a freaking D1 letter of intent 2 years before he committed to us, had 4 stars next to his name on Rivals, and had multiple visits to BCS schools planned before his final season. 

See the difference?

Oh, BTW.  LOL @ your multiple straw men in that post.  "Pressed at any issue"?   

[KSU4ME]

I  never compared Stutz to Richards.

I said I consider Richards a sleeper due to the lack of interest from good basketball schools.

LOL at your "Comparing this Stutz kid to Frank Richards" strawman.

So do you think a player that receives interest from Ohio, KSU and NCST, and only takes one visit is a sleeper or not?

[michigancat]

Edit:

Never mind.  This is the most retarded argument ever.

[KSU4ME]

Edit:

Never mind.  This is the most retarded argument ever.

Thanks for deleting that strawman.

[sys]

http://kentucky.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1499&tid=99479954&mid=99479954&sid=888&style=2

uk fans love stutz.  they're optimistic about everything right now.

[catdude33]

What's a strawman?  Similar to a scarecrow?

[michigancat]

What's a strawman?  Similar to a scarecrow?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[michigancat]

http://kentucky.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1499&tid=99479954&mid=99479954&sid=888&style=2

uk fans love stutz.  they're optimistic about everything right now.

This thread is kind of funny:

http://kentucky.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1383&tid=99432983&mid=99432983&sid=888&style=2

[steve dave]

I've noticed that straw-man has become the new "it" word at ksufans.com.  I'm going to make an effort to use it in my personal life to the same extent it is being used on these boards.  My conversations will go like this:

Wife:  How was your day
Me:  Straw man
Wife:  What 
Me:  Nice straw man, straw man

[fatty fat fat]

I've noticed that straw-man has become the new "it" word at ksufans.com.  I'm going to make an effort to use it in my personal life to the same extent it is being used on these boards.  My conversations will go like this:

Wife:  How was your day
Me:  Straw man
Wife:  What 
Me:  Nice straw man, straw man

wife? I thought you were in high school like the rest of us!

 

[steve dave]

I've noticed that straw-man has become the new "it" word at ksufans.com.  I'm going to make an effort to use it in my personal life to the same extent it is being used on these boards.  My conversations will go like this:

Wife:  How was your day
Me:  Straw man
Wife:  What 
Me:  Nice straw man, straw man

wife? I thought you were in high school like the rest of us!

 

   I wish.  I graduated recently    Don't ever make that mistake...stay as long as you can!