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August 12, 2007, 10:49:37 AM
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The article in the KC Star today had him listed at 265. If you're not starting Bedore, your coach should be fired on the spot.

August 12, 2007, 12:36:43 PM
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The article in the KC Star today had him listed at 265. If you're not starting Bedore, your coach should be fired on the spot.

I only see this about Viers in the KC Star today:

The battle is on at center. It sounds, though, like sophomore Trevor Viers may have the inside track. Viers, a converted defensive end, is trying to beat out junior Jordan Bedore.  “We said, ‘Hey, if we want to have the center position a real good position for years to come, why not put Trevor Viers there?’ He’s done a great job of learning, been dutiful, tough,” said Prince, adding he hasn’t made a decision on who’ll start.

I didn't see anything about his height or weight...  Am I missing something?

August 12, 2007, 02:27:11 PM
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The article in the KC Star today had him listed at 265. If you're not starting Bedore, your coach should be fired on the spot.

You know way too much about K-State.  And what the hell are you doing on Phog?  Just stop being weird.

August 12, 2007, 06:03:10 PM
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"Again...quickness, toughness, and technique trumps bulk every day."

no it doesn't.  do all gay people talk in useless metaphors or just you?  Speed isn't going to help a center block a nose tackle.  Speed is great if your a d-lineman and you need to get around a bigger, more powerful o-lineman but it doesn't work like that the other way around.  the center is not trying to get away from the nose, the center is trying to get in the way of the nose and slow him down.  to do that you don't need speed, you need power.  And Suh weighs about 310, that isn't 25 pounds heavier, it's 35 and as you can tell, it's a really good 35 pounds.

and by the way, kalil played at 285 and was 6'3 which is a pretty good height to weight ratio.  your boy viers is 6'5 according to your website and 270.  very big differance.  Also, very little experience on the o-line, started off at d-end.  Why your trying to compare him to a shorter, heavier better center is beyond me.  anything else to add hatter or did you get tore up enough?

What, hold the fricking phone!!!  You mean to say that speed won't help a lineman who has to block a d-lineman who is hoping to be faster???  It makes complete sense!!!

August 12, 2007, 06:37:40 PM
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Two years ago Prince was the speaker at the Kansas 8 man all-star games at Beloit that Viers played in.  I had the opportunity to visit with him briefly.  At that time Prince was extremely pleased with the progress Viers had made and indicated that he would play early in his career at KSU.  Looks like coach made an
accurate assessment.

August 13, 2007, 08:47:20 PM
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just watched Tennessee-South Carolina '06 on ESPNU.

Josh McNeil = Tennessee starting center and per their website he be 6-4 280.

http://www.utsports.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=15&change_well_id=17&member_id=65
« Last Edit: August 13, 2007, 08:52:06 PM by The Manhatter »

August 13, 2007, 08:56:05 PM
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Is NU football so &@#%ing boring right now that a couple of mouth breathing corncob tards are resorting to a weight argument about our noseguard? Gawd damn that is sad.

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August 13, 2007, 09:01:57 PM
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Is NU football so fracking boring right now that a couple of mouth breathing corncob tards are resorting to a weight argument about our noseguard? Gawd damn that is sad.

No, what's sad is the beatdown we're going to put on your undersized and undertalented lines when we play you in Lincoln. Maybe you can talk the NCAA into letting you play 20 or so guys on each side of the ball....then you might be able to get as much talent on the field as Nebraska, and manage to keep the spread within 20.

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August 13, 2007, 09:05:19 PM
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Is NU football so fracking boring right now that a couple of mouth breathing corncob tards are resorting to a weight argument about our noseguard? Gawd damn that is sad.

No, what's sad is the beatdown we're going to put on your undersized and undertalented lines when we play you in Lincoln. Maybe you can talk the NCAA into letting you play 20 or so guys on each side of the ball....then you might be able to get as much talent on the field as Nebraska, and manage to keep the spread within 20.

 :flush: Third Rate Lameass State!!!

So you're going to beat us by 20?v  :jerkoff:

How many points are you going to beat USC.  :thumbsup:

Just wondering because my picks list is right here in front of me and I want to get this right. :ku:
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August 13, 2007, 09:27:12 PM
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third rate? Thats their opinion. You could be one. But thats my opinon. If your in the best class, then beat the best. Something Callahan can't do. Beat USC and then you are in there.

August 14, 2007, 09:46:04 AM
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third rate? Thats their opinion. You could be one. But thats my opinon. If your in the best class, then beat the best. Something Callahan can't do. Beat USC and then you are in there.

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August 14, 2007, 11:53:12 AM
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"Again...quickness, toughness, and technique trumps bulk every day."

no it doesn't.  do all gay people talk in useless metaphors or just you?  Speed isn't going to help a center block a nose tackle.  Speed is great if your a d-lineman and you need to get around a bigger, more powerful o-lineman but it doesn't work like that the other way around.  the center is not trying to get away from the nose, the center is trying to get in the way of the nose and slow him down.  to do that you don't need speed, you need power.  And Suh weighs about 310, that isn't 25 pounds heavier, it's 35 and as you can tell, it's a really good 35 pounds.

and by the way, kalil played at 285 and was 6'3 which is a pretty good height to weight ratio.  your boy viers is 6'5 according to your website and 270.  very big differance.  Also, very little experience on the o-line, started off at d-end.  Why your trying to compare him to a shorter, heavier better center is beyond me.  anything else to add hatter or did you get tore up enough?

OK, I'll only try once to explain this to you because I know you likely won't get it.  Speed is useful if the O lineman has to pull or get out into the linebacker to block...quickness is what enables the O lineman to get to the proper side of the D player to block his where he wants, and to get leverage...which is huge in blocking and moving someone.  Technique is what the player uses to get off the ball low and enables the O lineman to turn the player once he gets in the proper position. 

Oh, and yes, you should probably take two D linemen and double team our O linemen.  That'll keep our O-linemen from making the play.  Low FBIQ alert!