2008 Presidential election

[michigancat]

So, I've started following this stuff really early this year.

Who do you like?  I don't really like anyone.  The debates I've seen seem like a circus of jackasses parading around.

Probably John Edwards and Fred Thompson (probably because he isn't a candidate) are my favorites from each party so far.

[ECN]

there is NO way im getting into a political debate.

that could lead to a flame holy war.

[michigancat]

there is NO way im getting into a political debate.

that could lead to a flame holy war.

That would be great.  I still haven't registered to vote in KCMO. 

I need to get on that.  I'll probably register as a democrat, since they win like all the local elections.

[asava]

there is NO way im getting into a political debate.

that could lead to a flame holy war.

can we talk about religon to?!

[ECN]

Let's talk about baseball
Talk a little small talk
There's gotta be a good joke
That you've heard
Let's talk about NASCARs
Old Hollywood movie stars
Let's talk about anything
Anything in this world
But politics, religion and her

[michigancat]

I'm annoyed that none of the republicans attended the gay issues debate.  Since I don't think any of the candidates will affect me all that much, things like gay rights tend to be more important.

[AzCat]

Republicans:
1. Newt Gingrich would be a clear #1 for me ... if only he were electable.
2. Tom Tancredo gets high marks for calling 'em like he sees 'em.
3. Rudy Giuliani is clearly the best candidate among those who might actually get the nomination.

Democrats:
1. Zell Miller - he really needs to run.
2. None of the above.  Obama wants to invade Pakistan and the rest want to nationalize 20% of the economy.  Bad mojo all the way around here.

[TheShocker]

Republicans:
1. Newt Gingrich would be a clear #1 for me ... if only he were electable.
2. Tom Tancredo gets high marks for calling 'em like he sees 'em.
3. Rudy Giuliani is clearly the best candidate among those who might actually get the nomination.

Democrats:
1. Zell Miller - he really needs to run.
2. None of the above.  Obama wants to invade Pakistan and the rest want to nationalize 20% of the economy.  Bad mojo all the way around here.

WTF? Giuliani is the most worthless candidate being discussed across both parties.

[ECN]

qft

[slucat]

The thing that bothers me the most right now is the reluctancy of the republican candidates to participate in the you tube debate hosted by CNN. That's like slapping the consituants in the face, "we don't care what the public has for questions, its not importaint enough"...basically...way to reach out to the younger voters (who turned out in record numbers in the last election).

[TheShocker]

The thing that bothers me the most right now is the reluctancy of the republican candidates to participate in the you tube debate hosted by CNN. That's like slapping the consituants in the face, "we don't care what the public has for questions, its not importaint enough"...basically...way to reach out to the younger voters (who turned out in record numbers in the last election).

The republicans know that their bread is buttered by old conservatives and the god fearin' folk in the bible belt. They've never made an effort to cater to young voters and eventually that will probably catch up to them. Up to this point it really hasn't hurt them at all.

[FBWillie]

I don't really think it matters who runs for the republican side as everything is pointing to Americans wanting a Democrat in office next term.   I just hope like hell it's not Hillary. 

My wife Loves Obama and I haven't started paying attention yet...  I tend to hate all politicians.

[Fausto]

""we don't care what the public has for questions, its not importaint enough"..."

Did you watch the Dems do YouTube?  The public is a talking sock?  They may have taken the questions, but more than half of the candidates did not even answer the questions posed.  They went right to their own talking points.  How is that *caring* about what the the public (including a talking sock) had for questions?  They were not answering the questions! 

The only dem I could see myself voting for is Joe Biden...and that ain't gonna happen.  Mitt is really the only contender right now I could really see throwing my vote towards.  That said, we're over a year away from an actual vote. 

Nevada is an early caucus, so I have to deal with these idiots more than otherwise. 

[Houstoncat93]

Republicans:
1. Newt Gingrich would be a clear #1 for me ... if only he were electable.
2. Tom Tancredo gets high marks for calling 'em like he sees 'em.
3. Rudy Giuliani is clearly the best candidate among those who might actually get the nomination.

Democrats:
1. Zell Miller - he really needs to run.
2. None of the above.  Obama wants to invade Pakistan and the rest want to nationalize 20% of the economy.  Bad mojo all the way around here.

WTF? Giuliani is the most worthless candidate being discussed across both parties.

What problems do you have with Giuliani?  Have you read his book and what he accomplished in NYC?  He sure seems like a viable choice to me.

[TheShocker]

Republicans:
1. Newt Gingrich would be a clear #1 for me ... if only he were electable.
2. Tom Tancredo gets high marks for calling 'em like he sees 'em.
3. Rudy Giuliani is clearly the best candidate among those who might actually get the nomination.

Democrats:
1. Zell Miller - he really needs to run.
2. None of the above.  Obama wants to invade Pakistan and the rest want to nationalize 20% of the economy.  Bad mojo all the way around here.

WTF? Giuliani is the most worthless candidate being discussed across both parties.

What problems do you have with Giuliani?  Have you read his book and what he accomplished in NYC?  He sure seems like a viable choice to me.

The only reason Giuliani is being considered as a presidential candidate is because he lucked into being mayor when 9/11 occurred. Without the 9/11 hype he is nothing.

[KungFoooKitty]

Republicans:
1. Newt Gingrich would be a clear #1 for me ... if only he were electable.
2. Tom Tancredo gets high marks for calling 'em like he sees 'em.
3. Rudy Giuliani is clearly the best candidate among those who might actually get the nomination.

Democrats:
1. Zell Miller - he really needs to run.
2. None of the above.  Obama wants to invade Pakistan and the rest want to nationalize 20% of the economy.  Bad mojo all the way around here.

WTF? Giuliani is the most worthless candidate being discussed across both parties.

What problems do you have with Giuliani?  Have you read his book and what he accomplished in NYC?  He sure seems like a viable choice to me.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20070205/ai_n17198933

He is viable until all the red state god and gun folks look at his record.  Giuliani =  when his voting record comes to light.

[cas]

I'm going to write in ECN.









* if I could, only 15.

[slucat]

""we don't care what the public has for questions, its not importaint enough"..."

Did you watch the Dems do YouTube?  The public is a talking sock?  They may have taken the questions, but more than half of the candidates did not even answer the questions posed.  They went right to their own talking points.  How is that *caring* about what the the public (including a talking sock) had for questions?  They were not answering the questions! 

The only dem I could see myself voting for is Joe Biden...and that ain't gonna happen.  Mitt is really the only contender right now I could really see throwing my vote towards.  That said, we're over a year away from an actual vote. 

Nevada is an early caucus, so I have to deal with these idiots more than otherwise. 

 

Sorry you have no sense of humor (talking sock), but not even showing up for a debate event that would generally reach the young voter...hmmmm?
 

[Kat Kid]

""we don't care what the public has for questions, its not importaint enough"..."

Did you watch the Dems do YouTube?  The public is a talking sock?  They may have taken the questions, but more than half of the candidates did not even answer the questions posed.  They went right to their own talking points.  How is that *caring* about what the the public (including a talking sock) had for questions?  They were not answering the questions! 

The only dem I could see myself voting for is Joe Biden...and that ain't gonna happen.  Mitt is really the only contender right now I could really see throwing my vote towards.  That said, we're over a year away from an actual vote. 

Nevada is an early caucus, so I have to deal with these idiots more than otherwise. 

Why do you like Mitt?

He seems by far the most phony of any candidates.  Hillary is probably more calculating than Mitt, but she executes her shady, focus group-speak with precision.  Mitt just blatantly panders to whatever constituency he needs at that moment.  His commitment to "double" Gitmo takes the cake as the most ignorant, disinterested pander of the campaign of any candidate thus far.

Kat Kid's official breakdown

Best candidates:

Republican
Ron Paul

Democrat
Obama

Literally the only candidate that has 100% credibility in my mind is Ron Paul.  His stated platform involves a return to the gold standard and the destruction of most any federal program you can think of.  Guliani would have us living in a police state with National I.D. cards and cameras on every street corner, McCain has had his spine surgically removed and looks like a court jester compared to his former self.  Brownback is crazy.  Huckabee is weird.  Thompson is half as qualified as Obama with 1/28th his intelligence.  On the Donkey side, Edwards can't even get a campaign message out that doesn't deal with his hair and is so scripted and phony that he has proven himself more worthless than Kerry (no small feat).  Richardson is interesting but appears better suited as a cabinet member or V.P.  Gravel is very angry about everything.  Joe Biden has a good command of the war but completely unfit for the Presidency and more of an asset in the Senate being a loudmouth and shouting people down on Sunday mornings.  kucinich?  There are no words.  Chris Dodd is a waste of stage space.

[Kat Kid]

Why Guliani scares the poop out of me:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E2D9173CF933A15750C0A962958260

"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

-Rudy Guliani

[fatty fat fat]

guliana did good job of 9/11

[mjrod]

Fred Thompson runs, it's over.

Republican for four more years.

[KungFoooKitty]

Fred Thompson runs, it's over.

Republican for four more years.

  at Repubs believing Thompson is the second coming of Reagan.

[Saulbadguy]

Don't really care.  Fortune 500 companies run this country, not politicians.

[michigancat]

Why Guliani scares the poop out of me:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E2D9173CF933A15750C0A962958260

"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

-Rudy Guliani

Jesus Christ.

F(ck that clown.

[michigancat]

That Ron Paul guy looks pretty good.  (relative)

[Houstoncat93]

At the core the struggle is philosophical. There are many, many things that can be done in law enforcement to protect us better. There are many things that can done to create a government that is more responsive and more helpful. The fact is that we're fooling people if we suggest to them the solutions to these very, very deep-seated problems are going to be found in government. . . .

We're going to come through this when we realize that it's all about, ultimately, individual responsibility. That in fact the criminal act is about individual responsibility and the building of the respect for the law and ethics is also a matter of individual responsibility.

Not exactly police state type of thinking if you read the rest of the article.  If you really want to get to know the candidates go read their books.  Both Guliani's and Obama's are good reads and gives you a real good feel for how they make their decisions.  That is much more important to me as a voter than their positions on individual issues.

[shaft3500]

what the hell are the democrats thinking. they could steamroll this election if they just put someone half way likable up there with all this anti-republican backlash. (see: last election) yet their top two choices are an intolerable bionic woman and a half black guy. idiots...

here's what i think will get it done for them edwards/obama 08

[michigancat]

what the hell are the democrats thinking. they could steamroll this election if they just put someone half way likable up there with all this anti-republican backlash. (see: last election) yet their top two choices are an intolerable bionic woman and a half black guy. idiots...

Are you saying half-black guys aren't halfway likeable?

[TheShocker]

what the hell are the democrats thinking. they could steamroll this election if they just put someone half way likable up there with all this anti-republican backlash. (see: last election) yet their top two choices are an intolerable bionic woman and a half black guy. idiots...

here's what i think will get it done for them edwards/obama 08

Edwards is a turd. I'd vote for Obama though.