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[fatty fat fat]

I don't know, I think these things are hilariously irrelevant.

Kansas State, which competes in the league-minimum 14 sports, finished last for the third straight season with 50.5 points — the fewest since Iowa State’s record-low 48.5 in 2004.


http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/content/sports/college/2007/06/17/06172007wacbig12allsports.html

[kstate16]

man, i guess we suck hardcore....at everything.

[Pike]

I'm telling you, fire Weisers ass. Sucking in every sport should get his ass fired!

[doom]

Is that point total averaged?  Or are we being punished for only having the league minimum sports?

[FBWillie]

I'm telling you, fire Weisers ass. Sucking in every sport should get his ass fired!

Are you saying we suck at basketball?

[sonofdaxjones]

Don't bring this up on Powertards . . . you'll get banned.

$38 million dollars on athletics . . . last place in overall athletics again in the Big 12, the worst traditional BCS conference school in the Directors Cup standings, only ahead of two schools that have only been in a BCS conference for a few years.

Nobody is saying KSU is going to win this stuff, but to be last, and the worst traditional BCS school in these types of standings is a disgrace.   

But most KSU fans are like the Powertards . . . get to the Big 12 tourney in baseball once every 4 or 5 years, have a couple of individual tracksters do well here and there, win the WNIT that's all they really need, finish in the upper half of the conference in hoops.   The only sport that anybody really demands anything out of is football, and I've met enough of the "The Cotton Bowl is good enough" KSU crowd to know that the KSU fanbase isn't that demanding.

That's why I laugh when the tards talk about what a tough job Tim Weiser has . . . the KSU masses never really demand anything above mediocrity, the guy gets paid a $100K a year bonus and nobody even knows what he has to do to get it (he's the highest paid administrator on the KSU campus).   He can take off on long hunting and fishing trips (recent 2 week fly fishing trip), go spend 2 weeks up in Omaha at the CWS (That's why he's president of some college baseball committee, he knows that's the only way anyone from KSU will make it too the CWS) etc. etc. etc.   Most K-Staters just ask for mediocrity and a little limelight here and there.

KSU in the rear with the gear as per usual.

[QuinnMac]

Dax = brutal honesty, but with a caring undertones

[CatsNShocks]

Don't bring this up on Powertards . . . you'll get banned.

$38 million dollars on athletics . . . last place in overall athletics again in the Big 12, the worst traditional BCS conference school in the Directors Cup standings, only ahead of two schools that have only been in a BCS conference for a few years.

Nobody is saying KSU is going to win this stuff, but to be last, and the worst traditional BCS school in these types of standings is a disgrace.   

But most KSU fans are like the Powertards . . . get to the Big 12 tourney in baseball once every 4 or 5 years, have a couple of individual tracksters do well here and there, win the WNIT that's all they really need, finish in the upper half of the conference in hoops.   The only sport that anybody really demands anything out of is football, and I've met enough of the "The Cotton Bowl is good enough" KSU crowd to know that the KSU fanbase isn't that demanding.

That's why I laugh when the tards talk about what a tough job Tim Weiser has . . . the KSU masses never really demand anything above mediocrity, the guy gets paid a $100K a year bonus and nobody even knows what he has to do to get it (he's the highest paid administrator on the KSU campus).   He can take off on long hunting and fishing trips (recent 2 week fly fishing trip), go spend 2 weeks up in Omaha at the CWS (That's why he's president of some college baseball committee, he knows that's the only way anyone from KSU will make it too the CWS) etc. etc. etc.   Most K-Staters just ask for mediocrity and a little limelight here and there.

KSU in the rear with the gear as per usual.

Couldn't agree more.

[cas]

Don't bring this up on Powertards . . . you'll get banned.

$38 million dollars on athletics . . . last place in overall athletics again in the Big 12, the worst traditional BCS conference school in the Directors Cup standings, only ahead of two schools that have only been in a BCS conference for a few years.

Nobody is saying KSU is going to win this stuff, but to be last, and the worst traditional BCS school in these types of standings is a disgrace.   

But most KSU fans are like the Powertards . . . get to the Big 12 tourney in baseball once every 4 or 5 years, have a couple of individual tracksters do well here and there, win the WNIT that's all they really need, finish in the upper half of the conference in hoops.   The only sport that anybody really demands anything out of is football, and I've met enough of the "The Cotton Bowl is good enough" KSU crowd to know that the KSU fanbase isn't that demanding.

That's why I laugh when the tards talk about what a tough job Tim Weiser has . . . the KSU masses never really demand anything above mediocrity, the guy gets paid a $100K a year bonus and nobody even knows what he has to do to get it (he's the highest paid administrator on the KSU campus).   He can take off on long hunting and fishing trips (recent 2 week fly fishing trip), go spend 2 weeks up in Omaha at the CWS (That's why he's president of some college baseball committee, he knows that's the only way anyone from KSU will make it too the CWS) etc. etc. etc.   Most K-Staters just ask for mediocrity and a little limelight here and there.

KSU in the rear with the gear as per usual.

Can't say I disagree with you.

I didn't like the way he handled the Wooly firing, not saying that he should have been fired but right after the the game was a pretty low-ball move. He hit a home run with Huggins, with Prince, we will see.

[sonofdaxjones]

It's a combination of not having as many sports and not doing very well in very many sports that hurts.   Again, nobody expects KSU to take home the prize.

But this is what always got me about Tard logic . . . "oh, we just don't have the budget" . . . well for F_ck sake, KSU is probably going to spend over $40 million dollars on athletics this coming FY year (and could spend more if they really wanted too and still finish in the black easily  if KSU's EADA reports are too be believed) and KSU will field the minimum amount of sports to be a full time D1 school.    I'd like to think that a school that spent over $40 million on athletics and had the fewest amount of sports to be a full time D1 school . . . could actually field some pretty strong teams across the board.

[waks]

Dax, if we were to add a women's sport and a men's sport, what sports would you choose and why? Just wondering..

[Pike]

I'm telling you, fire Weisers ass. Sucking in every sport should get his ass fired!

Are you saying we suck at basketball?

NIT

[bball40608]

womens softball and mens volleyball. or mens & womens soccer.

[fatty fat fat]

1)Men's tennis
2)Womens Soccer.

Softball is pathetic.

[ds43fan]

softball, because we have atleast one really really good pitcher comming up to KSU next year

[~WabashRoll~]

I could care less about finishing dead last in point standings as long as athletic department is one of the most profitable in the Big XII.

$9 million dollars in the black is pretty damn impressive. 

[fatty fat fat]

5th - football
4th - Basketball

Good year.

[waks]

I think I would go with softball and wrestling just because our state is stocked full of talent in each sport.

[pissclams]

I could care less about finishing dead last in point standings as long as athletic department is one of the most profitable in the Big XII.

$9 million dollars in the black is pretty damn impressive. 

not really.  it tells me that we don't spend enough.  $9m would build a nice basketball practice facility.
there's a reason why UT's ad has next to no profit compared to their revenue, and the best facilities, and the best athletic dept.

[fatty fat fat]

Ummm...yeah. You are not suppose to run a profit in d-1 athletics.

[sonofdaxjones]

Like I keep saying . . . if I were ku and KSU, I wouldn't want to keep showing $9-10 million dollars PLUS in net profit every year. 

There are already certain factions in the state that are on to this, and want the money that the state gives both schools for maintenance on facilities cut off.

[pissclams]

Like I keep saying . . . if I were ku and KSU, I wouldn't want to keep showing $9-10 million dollars PLUS in net profit every year. 

There are already certain factions in the state that are on to this, and want the money that the state gives both schools for maintenance on facilities cut off.

Unfortunately ADTW can spend the money w/o really spending it, in an effort to show $0 net profit using creative (not illegal or uncommon) bookkeeping practices and I'm afraid that such measures by the state would just promote that type of financial reporting.  In the end it's a zero sum game.

[sonofdaxjones]

I understand . . . it's curious though that some athletic departments show financials that look like a typical balance sheet that you would expect to see at a 'non-profit', other athletic departments show either net profits, or net losses on their EADA reports.   

I am not suggesting that KSU "cook the books" to hide revenue, in just looking at the financials we have access too, it appears that KSU could increase expenses at a pretty healty rate, and still finish well in the black.

[waks]

I understand . . . it's curious though that some athletic departments show financials that look like a typical balance sheet that you would expect to see at a 'non-profit', other athletic departments show either net profits, or net losses on their EADA reports.   

I am not suggesting that KSU "cook the books" to hide revenue, in just looking at the financials we have access too, it appears that KSU could increase expenses at a pretty healty rate, and still finish well in the black.

You never answered my question. 

[pissclams]

I understand . . . it's curious though that some athletic departments show financials that look like a typical balance sheet that you would expect to see at a 'non-profit', other athletic departments show either net profits, or net losses on their EADA reports.   

I am not suggesting that KSU "cook the books" to hide revenue, in just looking at the financials we have access too, it appears that KSU could increase expenses at a pretty healty rate, and still finish well in the black.

No doubt we could, but that's not what ADTW wants.  He wants to run it like a business and load up on endowments first and foremost.  It's a double edged sword.  The AD makes even more money when we finish in the black, quite a bit of interest can be made off those $M's each year.  I'd also guess that ADTW's contract is incentive laden with regards to the three areas of Revenue/Expense,  Gross Margin/Net Margin, and Net Profit.  From the little I've seen of how TW has chosen to run our AD, the first thing that comes to mind is Warren Buffet, the ultimate fiscal conservative.

When Garth was standing there with his checkbook open asking to pay for the floor to be redone, and TW won't do it? WTF?

[waks]

I understand . . . it's curious though that some athletic departments show financials that look like a typical balance sheet that you would expect to see at a 'non-profit', other athletic departments show either net profits, or net losses on their EADA reports.   

I am not suggesting that KSU "cook the books" to hide revenue, in just looking at the financials we have access too, it appears that KSU could increase expenses at a pretty healty rate, and still finish well in the black.

No doubt we could, but that's not what ADTW wants.  He wants to run it like a business and load up on endowments first and foremost.  It's a double edged sword.  The AD makes even more money when we finish in the black, quite a bit of interest can be made off those $M's each year.  I'd also guess that ADTW's contract is incentive laden with regards to the three areas of Revenue/Expense,  Gross Margin/Net Margin, and Net Profit.  From the little I've seen of how TW has chosen to run our AD, the first thing that comes to mind is Warren Buffet, the ultimate fiscal conservative.

When Garth was standing there with his checkbook open asking to pay for the floor to be redone, and TW won't do it? WTF?

If I'm ever a donor that can throw around that kind of cash I am donating under the condition that my money goes towards things that I want done. Did Garth still write the check?

[pissclams]

I don't think so.  I think he got a little upset about it too.

[catzacker]

When Garth was standing there with his checkbook open asking to pay for the floor to be redone, and TW won't do it? WTF?

Holy f'ing Christ.  Are you serious?  That's a fantastic way to run the Athletic Department...don't allow for donors to pay for things and piss them off. 

[waks]

I don't think so.  I think he got a little upset about it too.

Then Weiser is a &@#%ing idiot.