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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: mjrod on September 18, 2009, 03:27:38 PM
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Video's of Tate Snyder will show that this is an excellent pickup.
TP will be blogging on it tonight with vids.
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excellent.
fast balls?
(http://www.stevenellis.com/steven_ellis_the_complete/images/wallace_four_seamer.jpg)
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Scary how far this program has fallen.
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Video's of Tate Snyder will show that this is an excellent pickup.
TP will be blogging on it tonight with vids.
TP needs to be working live streaming video of his Pasadena adventures. I can only imagine (with envy of course) what that camera would show. I'd think, too, that a little web cam on the bill of his hat would attract the LA lovelies.
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Video's of Tate Snyder will show that this is an excellent pickup.
TP will be blogging on it tonight with vids.
Denial Pattern #4. Rationalizing
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:flush:
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Video's of Tate Snyder will show that this is an excellent pickup.
TP will be blogging on it tonight with vids.
I hate to say it, but you're probably wasting your time. They see what they want to see, nothing more.
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He has had his whole life of Coach-em-Up.
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I don't mind this kid. Kansas kid, great. That's fine.
But a scholly?
That's what causes concern to me, jmo.
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I don't mind this kid. Kansas kid, great. That's fine.
But a scholly?
That's what causes concern to me, jmo.
And this early. At least sneak the kid in at the last minute or something.
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I don't mind this kid. Kansas kid, great. That's fine.
But a scholly?
That's what causes concern to me, jmo.
And this early. At least sneak the kid in at the last minute or something.
Absolutely. I don't claim to be a recruiting expert but this guy isn't even the rivals database, as a senior. He's going to be available late. Like real late.
Campbell is setting up a visit to go to ku. We got to lock this fella up. He's in our backyard for godsakes.
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Video's of Tate Snyder will show that this is an excellent pickup.
TP will be blogging on it tonight with vids.
I hate to say it, but you're probably wasting your time. They see what they want to see, nothing more.
MJ and TP are the ones I trust on this site.
With the exception of a few others, everyone else is just pure entertainment.
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I can't wait to have some sunshine pumped up my ass. I love it.
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I can't wait to have some sunshine pumped up my ass. I love it.
mjrod can pump sunshine up my ass any time!*
LSHIBS***
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I don't mind this kid. Kansas kid, great. That's fine.
But a scholly?
That's what causes concern to me, jmo.
especially when grandpa just got a 2 million dollar contract. JFC don't waste a scholly on this kid
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I don't mind this kid. Kansas kid, great. That's fine.
But a scholly?
That's what causes concern to me, jmo.
And this early. At least sneak the kid in at the last minute or something.
Absolutely. I don't claim to be a recruiting expert but this guy isn't even the rivals database, as a senior. He's going to be available late. Like real late.
Campbell is setting up a visit to go to ku. We got to lock this fella up. He's in our backyard for godsakes.
Those are kind of unrelated topics imo. I'm just saying we could have this kid walk-on and add a kid who deserves a scholarship.
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:flush:
:curse:
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They see what they want to see, nothing more.
Hardly. What we want to see is winning football. So, seeing as how we're not seeing that, I don't see how you can say we're seeing what we want to see.
:dunno:
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They see what they want to see, nothing more.
Hardly. What we want to see is winning football. So, seeing as how we're not seeing that, I don't see how you can say we're seeing what we want to see.
:dunno:
I'm sorry, why do you think this pickup will not translate into winning football?
I'm guessing you're going to throw up some meaningless stuff about how he isn't a rivals 100 or ESPN 100 or some kind of nonsense.
Let's just face it. You're going to be one unhappy little girl and throw tantrums until someone buys you a lollipop.
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I'm sorry, why do you think this pickup will not translate into winning football?
I'm guessing you're going to throw up some meaningless stuff about how he isn't a rivals 100 or ESPN 100 or some kind of nonsense.
Yes, Tate not showing up on recruiting radars is "nonsense," whereas your personal eval of him on tape is extremely encouraging.
:jerkoff:
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You would think, since MJ started this site, he wouldn't be such a :powertard:
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I'm sorry, why do you think this pickup will not translate into winning football?
I'm guessing you're going to throw up some meaningless stuff about how he isn't a rivals 100 or ESPN 100 or some kind of nonsense.
Yes, Tate not showing up on recruiting radars is "nonsense," whereas your personal eval of him on tape is extremely encouraging.
:jerkoff:
LOL. Apparently, football is defined by the "excellent recruiting services of Rivals and Scout where the star evaluation process is a mystery to all."
Wonder how KSU got successful before then...
:banghead:
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I'm sorry, why do you think this pickup will not translate into winning football?
I'm guessing you're going to throw up some meaningless stuff about how he isn't a rivals 100 or ESPN 100 or some kind of nonsense.
Yes, Tate not showing up on recruiting radars is "nonsense," whereas your personal eval of him on tape is extremely encouraging.
:jerkoff:
LOL. Apparently, football is defined by the "excellent recruiting services of Rivals and Scout where the star evaluation process is a mystery to all."
Wonder how KSU got successful before then...
:banghead:
Even Tim Fitzgerald would laugh at you for being such a powertard.
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I'm sorry, why do you think this pickup will not translate into winning football?
I'm guessing you're going to throw up some meaningless stuff about how he isn't a rivals 100 or ESPN 100 or some kind of nonsense.
Yes, Tate not showing up on recruiting radars is "nonsense," whereas your personal eval of him on tape is extremely encouraging.
:jerkoff:
LOL. Apparently, football is defined by the "excellent recruiting services of Rivals and Scout where the star evaluation process is a mystery to all."
Wonder how KSU got successful before then...
:banghead:
juco transfers, duh
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I'm sorry, why do you think this pickup will not translate into winning football?
I'm guessing you're going to throw up some meaningless stuff about how he isn't a rivals 100 or ESPN 100 or some kind of nonsense.
Yes, Tate not showing up on recruiting radars is "nonsense," whereas your personal eval of him on tape is extremely encouraging.
:jerkoff:
LOL. Apparently, football is defined by the "excellent recruiting services of Rivals and Scout where the star evaluation process is a mystery to all."
Wonder how KSU got successful before then...
:banghead:
Even Tim Fitzgerald would laugh at you for being such a powertard.
I could care less. The proof will be when he goes out there in a K-State uniform, plays hard, makes great hits and does those things we expect from the great players that have already come through.
The fact you have to resort to Tim Fitzgerald shows you have nothing. Please try something more creative.. like something that will show he won't do well for K-State. You know.. football talk.
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I'm sorry, why do you think this pickup will not translate into winning football?
I'm guessing you're going to throw up some meaningless stuff about how he isn't a rivals 100 or ESPN 100 or some kind of nonsense.
Yes, Tate not showing up on recruiting radars is "nonsense," whereas your personal eval of him on tape is extremely encouraging.
:jerkoff:
LOL. Apparently, football is defined by the "excellent recruiting services of Rivals and Scout where the star evaluation process is a mystery to all."
Wonder how KSU got successful before then...
:banghead:
Even Tim Fitzgerald would laugh at you for being such a powertard.
I could care less. The proof will be when he goes out there in a K-State uniform, plays hard, makes great hits and does those things we expect from the great players that have already come through.
The fact you have to resort to Tim Fitzgerald shows you have nothing. Please try something more creative.. like something that will show he won't do well for K-State. You know.. football talk.
Here's football talk...
5'11 175 pounder that no D1 coach outside of his granddad has heard of... :'byecruelworld:
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I'm sorry, why do you think this pickup will not translate into winning football?
I'm guessing you're going to throw up some meaningless stuff about how he isn't a rivals 100 or ESPN 100 or some kind of nonsense.
Yes, Tate not showing up on recruiting radars is "nonsense," whereas your personal eval of him on tape is extremely encouraging.
:jerkoff:
LOL. Apparently, football is defined by the "excellent recruiting services of Rivals and Scout where the star evaluation process is a mystery to all."
Wonder how KSU got successful before then...
:banghead:
Even Tim Fitzgerald would laugh at you for being such a powertard.
I could care less. The proof will be when he goes out there in a K-State uniform, plays hard, makes great hits and does those things we expect from the great players that have already come through.
The fact you have to resort to Tim Fitzgerald shows you have nothing. Please try something more creative.. like something that will show he won't do well for K-State. You know.. football talk.
Here's football talk...
5'11 175 pounder that no D1 coach outside of his granddad has heard of... :'byecruelworld:
How do you know no one else has heard of him?
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I'm sorry, why do you think this pickup will not translate into winning football?
I'm guessing you're going to throw up some meaningless stuff about how he isn't a rivals 100 or ESPN 100 or some kind of nonsense.
Yes, Tate not showing up on recruiting radars is "nonsense," whereas your personal eval of him on tape is extremely encouraging.
:jerkoff:
LOL. Apparently, football is defined by the "excellent recruiting services of Rivals and Scout where the star evaluation process is a mystery to all."
Wonder how KSU got successful before then...
:banghead:
Even Tim Fitzgerald would laugh at you for being such a powertard.
I could care less. The proof will be when he goes out there in a K-State uniform, plays hard, makes great hits and does those things we expect from the great players that have already come through.
The fact you have to resort to Tim Fitzgerald shows you have nothing. Please try something more creative.. like something that will show he won't do well for K-State. You know.. football talk.
Here's football talk...
5'11 175 pounder that no D1 coach outside of his granddad has heard of... :'byecruelworld:
How do you know no one else has heard of him?
Let's see....um....rivals hasn't heard of him. Rivals fracking heard of Kaleb Drinkgern/Colten Freeze/Peyton Kirtk, etc....
Continue to pump the sunshine tho... :flush:
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Dear god MJrod, this board is hitting a new level of fantard(anti powertard).
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Dear god MJrod, this board is hitting a new level of fantard(anti powertard).
:blush:
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Here's football talk...
5'11 175 pounder that no D1 coach outside of his granddad has heard of... :'byecruelworld:
LOL
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Giving Tate Snyder a scholarship is a mistake no matter how you look at it. Even if he becomes the best player in K-State history, this is a bad move.
There are way too many needs on this team to be wasting scholarships on guys who would walk on. The quarterbacks and linebackers are terrible. The offensive line hasn't proven anything. A lot of of the defensive linemen who are on the two deep are seniors.
This is way too similar to Prince offering early scholarships to guys who couldn't play for their juco teams. It doesn't matter if Snyder thinks Tate is a good player. He's overpaying.
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Giving Tate Snyder a scholarship is a mistake no matter how you look at it. Even if he becomes the best player in K-State history, this is a bad move.
There are way too many needs on this team to be wasting scholarships on guys who would walk on. The quarterbacks and linebackers are terrible. The offensive line hasn't proven anything. A lot of of the defensive linemen who are on the two deep are seniors.
This is way too similar to Prince offering early scholarships to guys who couldn't play for their juco teams. It doesn't matter if Snyder thinks Tate is a good player. He's overpaying.
i.e. Dumb move
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Giving Tate Snyder a scholarship is a mistake no matter how you look at it. Even if he becomes the best player in K-State history, this is a bad move.
There are way too many needs on this team to be wasting scholarships on guys who would walk on. The quarterbacks and linebackers are terrible. The offensive line hasn't proven anything. A lot of of the defensive linemen who are on the two deep are seniors.
This is way too similar to Prince offering early scholarships to guys who couldn't play for their juco teams. It doesn't matter if Snyder thinks Tate is a good player. He's overpaying.
Again, I have no idea why you think this is a bad move or that you can show something this kid is not capable of doing. If you're only going to go by that "he doesn't look like a stud" it doesn't matter. Josh Buhl was about this kids size when he started. Yet, was that a wasted scholarship? Again, all we're getting here is "We have other needs, he's too small, etc.." and none of that matters. He gets a scholarship because he has technical ability well beyond what we have on the team now. He knows how to play the position. You beef him up, make him stronger, he'll be fine.
The walk-on thing is like this.. he could be a walkon, I don't necessarily disagree, but why should have to earn it again if he's already capable of getting it?
Amazing some of the logic. "His grandad makes a million he should pay for his tuition." Heard that kind of logic used for many things in life. In my view, it's his parents responsibility, not his grandfathers. :banghead:
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Couldn't he basically get in for free or really cheap since his Dad works for the football program and his Grandpa is the head coach? :dunno:
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Couldn't he basically get in for free or really cheap since his Dad works for the football program and his Grandpa is the head coach? :dunno:
It's a dumb argument.
He shouldn't be treated differently because he's the coaches son. You suppose that Cody Hawkins is a walkon?
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Couldn't he basically get in for free or really cheap since his Dad works for the football program and his Grandpa is the head coach? :dunno:
It's a dumb argument.
He shouldn't be treated differently because he's the coaches son. You suppose that Cody Hawkins is a walkon?
Certainly not if he was being recruited by more than one school. Since only the Washburn and Ft. Hays coaches were the only other ones sending him letters, yes he should be treated different.
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Couldn't he basically get in for free or really cheap since his Dad works for the football program and his Grandpa is the head coach? :dunno:
It's a dumb argument.
He shouldn't be treated differently because he's the coaches son. You suppose that Cody Hawkins is a walkon?
and you think Cody Hawkins really deserves the scholarship he's currently on?? i understand your logic but that's one of the worst examples you could ever use
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Couldn't he basically get in for free or really cheap since his Dad works for the football program and his Grandpa is the head coach? :dunno:
It's a dumb argument.
He shouldn't be treated differently because he's the coaches son. You suppose that Cody Hawkins is a walkon?
and you think Cody Hawkins really deserves the scholarship he's currently on?? i understand your logic but that's one of the worst examples you could ever use
That's not the issue. Lots of players on a team don't "deserve" a scholarship. The coach makes those decisions. He shouldn't change the rules simply because of a relative. And again, why do you think he won't make a good player for K-State?
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JFC at this point lets be happy to get 25 guys on scholarship to come to K-State, in case you haven't noticed we suck. hard.
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Couldn't he basically get in for free or really cheap since his Dad works for the football program and his Grandpa is the head coach? :dunno:
It's a dumb argument.
He shouldn't be treated differently because he's the coaches son. You suppose that Cody Hawkins is a walkon?
and you think Cody Hawkins really deserves the scholarship he's currently on?? i understand your logic but that's one of the worst examples you could ever use
That's not the issue. Lots of players on a team don't "deserve" a scholarship. The coach makes those decisions. He shouldn't change the rules simply because of a relative. And again, why do you think he won't make a good player for K-State?
I have no idea if he's a good player now or will develop into. I know nothing about scouting, and haven't even seen him play so I won't pretend to come across as some pretentious jack ass know-nothing. I was simply pointing out that your argument was flawed. Pretty much the only thing that I can bring to the table at this juncture of the thread.
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Couldn't he basically get in for free or really cheap since his Dad works for the football program and his Grandpa is the head coach? :dunno:
It's a dumb argument.
He shouldn't be treated differently because he's the coaches son. You suppose that Cody Hawkins is a walkon?
and you think Cody Hawkins really deserves the scholarship he's currently on?? i understand your logic but that's one of the worst examples you could ever use
That's not the issue. Lots of players on a team don't "deserve" a scholarship. The coach makes those decisions. He shouldn't change the rules simply because of a relative. And again, why do you think he won't make a good player for K-State?
I have no idea if he's a good player now or will develop into. I know nothing about scouting, and haven't even seen him play so I won't pretend to come across as some pretentious jack ass know-nothing. I was simply pointing out that your argument was flawed. Pretty much the only thing that I can bring to the table at this juncture of the thread.
You didn't say my argument was flawed, you said I used a bad example. It was actually a very good example. Cody Hawkins isn't the reason Colorado is bad. They have other issues. Is it a good assumption that if Cody wasn't playing Colorado would be a better team?
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Couldn't he basically get in for free or really cheap since his Dad works for the football program and his Grandpa is the head coach? :dunno:
It's a dumb argument.
He shouldn't be treated differently because he's the coaches son. You suppose that Cody Hawkins is a walkon?
and you think Cody Hawkins really deserves the scholarship he's currently on?? i understand your logic but that's one of the worst examples you could ever use
That's not the issue. Lots of players on a team don't "deserve" a scholarship. The coach makes those decisions. He shouldn't change the rules simply because of a relative. And again, why do you think he won't make a good player for K-State?
I have no idea if he's a good player now or will develop into. I know nothing about scouting, and haven't even seen him play so I won't pretend to come across as some pretentious jack ass know-nothing. I was simply pointing out that your argument was flawed. Pretty much the only thing that I can bring to the table at this juncture of the thread.
You didn't say my argument was flawed, you said I used a bad example. It was actually a very good example. Cody Hawkins isn't the reason Colorado is bad. They have other issues. Is it a good assumption that if Cody wasn't playing Colorado would be a better team?
It's almost a guarantee that if Cody wasn't starting CU would be much improved. If you watched games last year in which Tyler Hansen played and compared the performance to those of little Hawkins: games were much more competitive and Hansen didn't panic in the pocket like Cody does and is much more accurate. Of course it hurts that Colorado's offensive line is much worse than most predicted, but why not start the player that gives you the best chance to win? I know they are planning on RS Hansen but I can almost guarantee they pull it to try and salvage Coach Hawk's job.
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Sorry I'm getting so off Tate's topic with these ramblings. I'm a few deep and hope my replies make as much sense as they do in the noodle.
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It's a dumb argument.
He shouldn't be treated differently because he's the coaches son. You suppose that Cody Hawkins is a walkon?
READ THIS ONE.
Here's the thing, though: He is being treated differently precisely BECAUSE he's family. I'm not talking about the reason you THINK that I think that. I'm talking about something else that to my knowledge hasn't been brought up yet by anybody in these threads. Ready?
Anyone who has followed Manhattan High football players closely during the entirety of Snyder's tenure in Manhattan knows that it's very, very, very, VERY rare for him to throw scholarships at Manhattan kids. Like, pretty much nonexistent. There have been some amazing players who have come through Lew Lane/Butch Albright's ranks who definitely could've earned them from Snyder, but Snydz never offered them to kids from Manhattan because he always operated on the assumption that these kids have been born with K-State love from the beginning and there's a high likelihood they'll walk on. Coach Lane knew of Snyder's philosophy on this all along, Coach Albright knew it*, and anybody who played with the A.D. Mayses or Mike Nashes and saw them offered walk-on positions knows it. At the VERY most, he "encourages" them to walk on with hopes of maybe earning a scholarship by the time they're juniors or seniors -- just ask Jason Kazar.
So yes, Snyder suddenly breaking this policy of his to offer a scholarship to.......ta da......his own grandson smacks of nepotism. Maybe the kid's good at football. I don't know, I've never seen him play. But I can guarantee there have been better players than Tate Snyder who went to Manhattan High and have shown interest in getting a scholarship to K-State and received less than what Tate's getting. THAT'S why Tate Snyder shouldn't be getting a scholarship from Bill Snyder. Because nobody else did.
MJ, I know you're ridiculously stubborn and will still be a vag and try to argue your way out of this, but unless you were raised in Manhattan watching MHS football every single week, year after year -- concurrently with Snyder's tenure, by the way -- you have no grounds for argument with the point I just made. <----But I'm gonna guess you're still going to do that douchebag move you do a lot where you cross your arms, angrily sit there with your wiener between your legs, and pout.
*--In fact, Coach Albright saw it unjustly happening to his players for so many years in a row that he eventually stopped making an effort altogether to promote his players to Snyder because he knew they weren't getting scholarships.
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good point^
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Again, I have no idea why you think this is a bad move or that you can show something this kid is not capable of doing. If you're only going to go by that "he doesn't look like a stud" it doesn't matter. Josh Buhl was about this kids size when he started. Yet, was that a wasted scholarship? Again, all we're getting here is "We have other needs, he's too small, etc.." and none of that matters. He gets a scholarship because he has technical ability well beyond what we have on the team now. He knows how to play the position. You beef him up, make him stronger, he'll be fine.
The walk-on thing is like this.. he could be a walkon, I don't necessarily disagree, but why should have to earn it again if he's already capable of getting it?
Amazing some of the logic. "His grandad makes a million he should pay for his tuition." Heard that kind of logic used for many things in life. In my view, it's his parents responsibility, not his grandfathers. :banghead:
I have not seen Tate play, but it doesn't matter. Why give up more than you have to?
Let's say you have two bars. The first bar is charging $5 for a beer. The second bar is giving beer away for free. Which bar would you choose? Because K-State is saying they'd rather pay $5 per beer.
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Stop egging on MJ. Let's just see what he has to say about SkinnyBenny's recent revelation before we revisit any of the tired old garbage from this thread.
SB FTW, btw.
8-)
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Sarcasm, brought to you by mj.
I hope.
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Everybody, let's just chill with the responses, put on our glasses, 'op some 'opcorn, and watch MJ try to discredit the silver bullet of the years and years of Snydz schollie neglect of MHSIndhzz.
Just put on those glasses and wait. 8-) 8-) 8-) :billypopcorn:
(Ace Ventura voice: "MAN I'm tired of being right.")
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Couldn't he basically get in for free or really cheap since his Dad works for the football program and his Grandpa is the head coach? :dunno:
Nah. The university only offers free tuition to faculty members and then it's limited to like 3 hours per semester. Some of the private schools in the area give full rides to dependents, but not the regents schools. The only reason I even know this is cause I googled it a couple days ago.
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He prolly got the scholly offer in a Hallmark card with his annual $100 birthday check.
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Matt Butler and Greg Gaskins and got scholarships or greyshirts out of high school. But I think the true issue would be is that MHS has produced very few D1 athletes. Love my al-mater but they have not beaten people with D1 caliber talent but with overall team talent. I can only think of one MHS grad that has even played at a D1 school outside of K-State and that was a o-linemen that played/plays for ku. Tate Snyder and Derrick Campbell are the only D1 caliber athletes at MHS over the last few seasons and guess what Snyder's staff has scholarship offers waiting for them (Derek DOES have a offer from Snyder) Stop fantarding this Tate deserves the offer he was given so STFU
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Josh Buhl was about this kids size when he started. Yet, was that a wasted scholarship?
Tell me you just didn't compare the Tate Snyder situation to the Josh Buhl situation coming out of high school.
Because if you truly are you've basically crapped the pants of your entire "stars and recruiting services are worthless" part of your argument as well.
Just in case we've forgotten, Josh Buhl was basically the most decorated high school linebacker Snyder ever recruited. Dude was on ever Texas Top 50 list, the Defensive Player of the Year in 5A Texas, USA Today honorable mention All-USA, First team all-district and second team all-area as a junior, Superprep All-Southwest, Ranked as the No. 3 weakside linebacker in the Big 12 region, one of the top 10 weakside linebackers in the nation by the National Recruiting Advisor, and First team All-Big 12 Region pick by PrepStar.
He was regarded by these supposed idiotic "recruiting services" as one of the best high school defensive players in the country and had multiple offers from top level Big XII programs. So, to any rational person, it's no surprise that the prep acclaim then translated at the college level to him becoming a 1st Team All-American, First Team Big XII, Butkus Finalist, and one of the best linebackers to ever play for K-State.
But yeah, the Tate Snyder story coming out of high school part is basically the same except for the situations being nothing alike part.
Wow. A great title for this thread.
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Matt Butler and Greg Gaskins and got scholarships or greyshirts out of high school. But I think the true issue would be is that MHS has produced very few D1 athletes. Love my al-mater but they have not beaten people with D1 caliber talent but with overall team talent. I can only think of one MHS grad that has even played at a D1 school outside of K-State and that was a o-linemen that played/plays for ku. Tate Snyder and Derrick Campbell are the only D1 caliber athletes at MHS over the last few seasons and guess what Snyder's staff has scholarship offers waiting for them (Derek DOES have a offer from Snyder) Stop fantarding this Tate deserves the offer he was given so STFU
True, I forgot about The Butt (good call), but The Gask (that doesn't roll off the tongue) didn't get what he deserved right off the bat. You're either bonkers or a young lil' guy if you think there haven't been more athletes deserving of 'ships to come out of MHS in the last 20 years. Give Albright a jingle and see what he thinks about Snyder's history with MHS athletes. While you're at it, ask him if he still domesticates squirrels! Inquiring minds want to know.
But I guess I'll stop.......fantarding this? ???
And WabashRoll.......niiice. 8-)
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Stop fantarding this Tate deserves the offer he was given so STFU
What do you base this on? :dunno:
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Problem with Albright is of course he is going to say that he had a team full of D1ers but reality you can't name one kid that has played on a D1 roster other than K-State that has graduated from MHS. It is not a D1 pipeline, period. This years team with Tate and Derek is going to be very special and should go far. Part of the reason Butch was so pissed he "retired" because this was going to be a title run team
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I always thought stormnut was an extremely well played powertard sock over here?
I'm starting to think he's the genuine article.
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I am not that creative. I am what I am. Bring a little powertardness to balance out the Fantardness.
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Yep.
You can take the tard out of GoPowercat, but you can't take the GoPowercat out of the tard.
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okay everyone. time to go home.
:rolleyes:
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Stop fantarding this Tate deserves the offer he was given so STFU
What do you base this on? :dunno:
Their conclusions aren't based on anything other than the fact that they believe if bill snyder says or does something it must be correct.
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I don't know, stats, on field play. You know tangible things
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oh wait. he's a senior?
f*ck. :-[
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I don't know, stats, on field play. You know tangible things
Show some of these. I would love to see them.
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I don't know, stats, on field play. You know tangible things
Show some of these. I would love to see them.
Will get you number tomorrow. don't have them in front of me right now. :blahblah: :blahblah:
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It's a dumb argument.
He shouldn't be treated differently because he's the coaches son. You suppose that Cody Hawkins is a walkon?
READ THIS ONE.
Here's the thing, though: He is being treated differently precisely BECAUSE he's family. I'm not talking about the reason you THINK that I think that. I'm talking about something else that to my knowledge hasn't been brought up yet by anybody in these threads. Ready?
Anyone who has followed Manhattan High football players closely during the entirety of Snyder's tenure in Manhattan knows that it's very, very, very, VERY rare for him to throw scholarships at Manhattan kids. Like, pretty much nonexistent. There have been some amazing players who have come through Lew Lane/Butch Albright's ranks who definitely could've earned them from Snyder, but Snydz never offered them to kids from Manhattan because he always operated on the assumption that these kids have been born with K-State love from the beginning and there's a high likelihood they'll walk on. Coach Lane knew of Snyder's philosophy on this all along, Coach Albright knew it*, and anybody who played with the A.D. Mayses or Mike Nashes and saw them offered walk-on positions knows it. At the VERY most, he "encourages" them to walk on with hopes of maybe earning a scholarship by the time they're juniors or seniors -- just ask Jason Kazar.
So yes, Snyder suddenly breaking this policy of his to offer a scholarship to.......ta da......his own grandson smacks of nepotism. Maybe the kid's good at football. I don't know, I've never seen him play. But I can guarantee there have been better players than Tate Snyder who went to Manhattan High and have shown interest in getting a scholarship to K-State and received less than what Tate's getting. THAT'S why Tate Snyder shouldn't be getting a scholarship from Bill Snyder. Because nobody else did.
MJ, I know you're ridiculously stubborn and will still be a vag and try to argue your way out of this, but unless you were raised in Manhattan watching MHS football every single week, year after year -- concurrently with Snyder's tenure, by the way -- you have no grounds for argument with the point I just made. <----But I'm gonna guess you're still going to do that douchebag move you do a lot where you cross your arms, angrily sit there with your wiener between your legs, and pout.
*--In fact, Coach Albright saw it unjustly happening to his players for so many years in a row that he eventually stopped making an effort altogether to promote his players to Snyder because he knew they weren't getting scholarships.
This is a bunch of crap. Snyder has offered scholarships to Manhattan kids when they were deserving of one. The only exception to this was probably the Mayes kid but he walked on to ku so it's not like anyone else was after him either. Outside of him there really hasn't been a Manhattan kid that deserved a d-1 ship that Snyder didn't offer. If anything he offered a few Manhattan kids ships that probably were not of that caliber. Snyder has given ships to more then 10 Manhttan kids over the years not sure how you can say he doesn't offer ships to Manhattan kids.
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Video's of Tate Snyder will show that this is an excellent pickup.
TP will be blogging on it tonight with vids.
^^^^this - heard urban meyer, pete carroll, and charlie weiss, 'mongst a veritable who's who of super elitist college coaches (and friends of OB) all talked with YB hs coach before making the connection, but then not offered out of 'spect for OB and 4gone 'clusion that YB's is EMAW through and through. 2010 preseason poll already has the cats #15 with this commitment
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Quick question. How could this be Sean's kid and Bill's grandkid who plays at Manhattan High and this is the first that we've heard about him?
Is this his breakthrough season or something? :dunno:
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stormnut's trying to push "fantard". seriously? come up with something unique you f*cking retarded weather ballon.
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Posterboy fantard. :fantard
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Quick question. How could this be Sean's kid and Bill's grandkid who plays at Manhattan High and this is the first that we've heard about him?
Is this his breakthrough season or something? :dunno:
because he sucks
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Posterboy fantard. :fantard
:jerkoff:
how's the weather in snyder's ass today?
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Clean
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Clean
for now...
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Couldn't he basically get in for free or really cheap since his Dad works for the football program and his Grandpa is the head coach? :dunno:
It's a dumb argument.
He shouldn't be treated differently because he's the coaches son. You suppose that Cody Hawkins is a walkon?
lol
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It's a dumb argument.
He shouldn't be treated differently because he's the coaches son. You suppose that Cody Hawkins is a walkon?
READ THIS ONE.
Here's the thing, though: He is being treated differently precisely BECAUSE he's family. I'm not talking about the reason you THINK that I think that. I'm talking about something else that to my knowledge hasn't been brought up yet by anybody in these threads. Ready?
Anyone who has followed Manhattan High football players closely during the entirety of Snyder's tenure in Manhattan knows that it's very, very, very, VERY rare for him to throw scholarships at Manhattan kids. Like, pretty much nonexistent. There have been some amazing players who have come through Lew Lane/Butch Albright's ranks who definitely could've earned them from Snyder, but Snydz never offered them to kids from Manhattan because he always operated on the assumption that these kids have been born with K-State love from the beginning and there's a high likelihood they'll walk on. Coach Lane knew of Snyder's philosophy on this all along, Coach Albright knew it*, and anybody who played with the A.D. Mayses or Mike Nashes and saw them offered walk-on positions knows it. At the VERY most, he "encourages" them to walk on with hopes of maybe earning a scholarship by the time they're juniors or seniors -- just ask Jason Kazar.
So yes, Snyder suddenly breaking this policy of his to offer a scholarship to.......ta da......his own grandson smacks of nepotism. Maybe the kid's good at football. I don't know, I've never seen him play. But I can guarantee there have been better players than Tate Snyder who went to Manhattan High and have shown interest in getting a scholarship to K-State and received less than what Tate's getting. THAT'S why Tate Snyder shouldn't be getting a scholarship from Bill Snyder. Because nobody else did.
MJ, I know you're ridiculously stubborn and will still be a vag and try to argue your way out of this, but unless you were raised in Manhattan watching MHS football every single week, year after year -- concurrently with Snyder's tenure, by the way -- you have no grounds for argument with the point I just made. <----But I'm gonna guess you're still going to do that douchebag move you do a lot where you cross your arms, angrily sit there with your wiener between your legs, and pout.
*--In fact, Coach Albright saw it unjustly happening to his players for so many years in a row that he eventually stopped making an effort altogether to promote his players to Snyder because he knew they weren't getting scholarships.
I'm not going to argue something you copied from somewhere else because you yourself can't come up with a better argument.
Everyone has a perspective, will believe what they want to believe. The issues of who is deserving a scholarship are subjective. Yet, most of what people are saying have NOTHING to do with his abilities. Please, stop with the nonsense. I don't care that Butch Albright was offended. That douchebag had more issues than anyone else and was lucky to have his job for as long as he did. I don't know why anyone gives him any credence.
BTW: I graduated from MHS in 1983.
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Hey I am not sure if anyone realized this or not, but MHS plays there home games over at Bishop Stadium in Cico park. You want to see Tate play? Pay five bucks and watch the game. Manhattan is a fun team to watch this year. So enough of these assumtions, you want answers, find them out for yourselves.
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Hey I am not sure if anyone realized this or not, but MHS plays there home games over at Bishop Stadium in Cico park. You want to see Tate play? Pay five bucks and watch the game. Manhattan is a fun team to watch this year. So enough of these assumtions, you want answers, find them out for yourselves.
Would be a waste of 5 bucks, first of all. Second of all, 3 pages deep and I still have seen no stats or video by those saying he is a D1 talent. :-*
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The issues of who is deserving a scholarship are subjective.
No, they're not actually.
Total cop out.
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The issues of who is deserving a scholarship are subjective.
No, they're not actually.
Total cop out.
Of course they're subjective. That's why every team doesn't offer every player. Also, merely labeling something a cop out doesn't actually make it a cop out.
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I'm not going to argue something you copied from somewhere else because you yourself can't come up with a better argument.
Hahaha, um....what?
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mj's whole argument from what i can tell based on what he's posted here and in other threads is that tate is deserving because he has a bunch of tackles and a couple of int's so far this year. if that's the case then why not just offer a scholly to the best defensive player on every kansas high school football team.
"sabetha head football coach, bill snyder on line one."
mj-do you have a better argument? please just lay it out here. we are all waiting. seriously, just make the case.
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It's awesome watching mj twist in the wind on this one, all the while keeping his wiener between his legs as he's all, "na-uhhh!!!!1". Look, Tate MAY be worth the scholarship, who knows. But
A) Give us some facts (i.e. ACTUAL NUMBERS) to back it up.
B) You can see how this might appear kiiiinda suspicious, right? "No, totally, nothing suspicious about this at all."
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mj's argument reminds me of that scene where Rudy brags about leading his high school team in tackles. Maybe we'll be able to make a movie about the guy??
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mj's argument reminds me of that scene where Rudy brags about leading his high school team in tackles. Maybe we'll be able to make a movie about the guy??
FWIW, TP is apparently also okay with the scholarship offer. Seems like he might have some sort of idea what a decent LB looks like.
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mj's argument reminds me of that scene where Rudy brags about leading his high school team in tackles. Maybe we'll be able to make a movie about the guy??
FWIW, TP is apparently also okay with the scholarship offer. Seems like he might have some sort of idea what a decent LB looks like.
or maybe he owns a kstate site and used to play for snyder and just doesn't want to get on the bad side of the current staff. :dunno:
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mj's argument reminds me of that scene where Rudy brags about leading his high school team in tackles. Maybe we'll be able to make a movie about the guy??
FWIW, TP is apparently also okay with the scholarship offer. Seems like he might have some sort of idea what a decent LB looks like.
or maybe he owns a kstate site and used to play for snyder and just doesn't want to get on the bad side of the current staff. :dunno:
This place gets more like gpc every day.
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mj's argument reminds me of that scene where Rudy brags about leading his high school team in tackles. Maybe we'll be able to make a movie about the guy??
FWIW, TP is apparently also okay with the scholarship offer. Seems like he might have some sort of idea what a decent LB looks like.
or maybe he owns a kstate site and used to play for snyder and just doesn't want to get on the bad side of the current staff. :dunno:
Does it seem like he's really all that worried about staying on Snyder's good side? If he was, I kinda doubt he would tolerate all the stuff that is said on this board.
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mj's argument reminds me of that scene where Rudy brags about leading his high school team in tackles. Maybe we'll be able to make a movie about the guy??
FWIW, TP is apparently also okay with the scholarship offer. Seems like he might have some sort of idea what a decent LB looks like.
or maybe he owns a kstate site and used to play for snyder and just doesn't want to get on the bad side of the current staff. :dunno:
This place gets more like gpc every day.
The next intelligent thing you say will probably be the first. All I hear from you are tired old retreads of things others have already said on this board.
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mj's argument reminds me of that scene where Rudy brags about leading his high school team in tackles. Maybe we'll be able to make a movie about the guy??
FWIW, TP is apparently also okay with the scholarship offer. Seems like he might have some sort of idea what a decent LB looks like.
or maybe he owns a kstate site and used to play for snyder and just doesn't want to get on the bad side of the current staff. :dunno:
Does it seem like he's really all that worried about staying on Snyder's good side? If he was, I kinda doubt he would tolerate all the stuff that is said on this board.
you tell me. both of the threads about his grandson were moved to a different board.
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I wonder if Coach Synder was just trying to beat out the pending offer from UVA :confused: