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Sources: K-State's Epps, Cavello placed on administrative leave
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BY JEFFREY MARTIN
The Wichita Eagle
Kansas State senior athletic administrators Jim Epps and Bob Cavello were placed on administrative leave this afternoon, two sources told The Eagle.
Details on the length of the leave were not immediately available, and K-State did not release information.
It leaves K-State without two of its top athletic department officials four days after new athletic director John Currie began his work in Manhattan.
The move is the latest in a series of unexpected changes in the athletic department. The changes began in January when then athletic director Bob Krause took a new job as director of the school's satellite campus in Olathe.
On May 20, it was revealed that Krause and former football coach Ron Prince had agreed to a $3.2-million buyout -- in addition to a publicly revealed $1.2 million buyout if Prince was fired after the 2008 season. That second agreement had not been negotiated by K-State lawyers and was, KSU said, a deal only known to that point by Krause, Prince and Prince's agent. Krause resigned from his Olathe post after the secret buyout was revealed.
Epps was quoted in a statement May 20 saying he had no knowledge of the second settlement. K-State has filed a lawsuit in Riley County District Court to void the settlement.
Epps, who is the deputy AD, completed his 30th year in the Wildcat athletic department this spring. He is in charge of daily internal operations. He began his K-State career as an academic counselor in 1979, then was promoted to administrative assistant for football in 1982 and special assistant to the head coach in 1987. He was named senior associate AD in 1990.
Cavello, associate AD for business operations, has been at K-State since 1996. He oversees financial, contractual and business operations for the department, as well as overseeing the men's and women's golf programs.
Jim Epps . . . empty suit yes man, who should have retired 8 years ago.
Still trying to figure out how I had such a cognitive disconnect with Krause, when 4 or 5 years ago I went to a whole new level of hate from the Powertards on the Wabash when I was discussing the clusterf_ck that had become the Colbert Hills financing, and how Krause was right there in the middle of all of that. No wonder the KSU Foundation wanted the guy out of athletics.
Very dumb on my part . . . . :banghead: :banghead:
why administrative leave? why not just fire them? don't understand that.
why administrative leave? why not just fire them? don't understand that.
Its how things are done in a properly run corporation. :AA:
why administrative leave? why not just fire them? don't understand that.
Its how things are done in a properly run corporation. :AA:
don't understand why they don't just fire them and start officially looking for replacements. you don't put your top 2 athletic department officials on admin leave and then retain them. maybe they have buyouts too?
why administrative leave? why not just fire them? don't understand that.
Its how things are done in a properly run corporation. :AA:
don't understand why they don't just fire them and start officially looking for replacements. you don't put your top 2 athletic department officials on admin leave and then retain them. maybe they have buyouts too?
Don't either I would shove their pink slips up their rears and kick them out the door but it is the "proper" way of doing it.
why administrative leave? why not just fire them? don't understand that.
Its how things are done in a properly run corporation. :AA:
don't understand why they don't just fire them and start officially looking for replacements. you don't put your top 2 athletic department officials on admin leave and then retain them. maybe they have buyouts too?
Don't either I would shove their pink slips up their rears and kick them out the door but it is the "proper" way of doing it.
i hope those two dumbf*cks weren't down with IPP too.
why administrative leave? why not just fire them? don't understand that.
Its how things are done in a properly run corporation. :AA:
don't understand why they don't just fire them and start officially looking for replacements. you don't put your top 2 athletic department officials on admin leave and then retain them. maybe they have buyouts too?
Don't either I would shove their pink slips up their rears and kick them out the door but it is the "proper" way of doing it.
i hope those two dumbf*cks weren't down with IPP too.
I'm sure they had something to do with it or knew about it.
why administrative leave? why not just fire them? don't understand that.
Its how things are done in a properly run corporation. :AA:
don't understand why they don't just fire them and start officially looking for replacements. you don't put your top 2 athletic department officials on admin leave and then retain them. maybe they have buyouts too?
Don't either I would shove their pink slips up their rears and kick them out the door but it is the "proper" way of doing it.
i hope those two dumbf*cks weren't down with IPP too.
I'm sure they had something to do with it or knew about it.
Or should have been doing their fracking job and knew something about it.
why administrative leave? why not just fire them? don't understand that.
Its how things are done in a properly run corporation. :AA:
don't understand why they don't just fire them and start officially looking for replacements. you don't put your top 2 athletic department officials on admin leave and then retain them. maybe they have buyouts too?
Don't either I would shove their pink slips up their rears and kick them out the door but it is the "proper" way of doing it.
i hope those two dumbf*cks weren't down with IPP too.
I'm sure they had something to do with it or knew about it.
Or should have been doing their fracking job and knew something about it.
Yeah I don't see why these guys don't just get canned
Trouble? How is this anything but great news?
Trouble? How is this anything but great news?
Because, dumbass, there is a lawsuit pending about the "secret" deal, which, evidently, wasn't so fracking secret. Gawd you farmers are slow.
KSU Athletic Department = :lol:
Good luck. You idiots, and I mean that literally, should justquit.administrative leave yourselves :flush:
Trouble? How is this anything but great news?
Because, dumbass, there is a lawsuit pending about the "secret" deal, which, evidently, wasn't so fracking secret. Gawd you farmers are slow.
KSU Athletic Department = :lol:
Good luck. You idiots, and I mean that literally, should just quit. :flush:
Trouble? How is this anything but great news?KSU Athletic Department = :lol:
why administrative leave? why not just fire them? don't understand that.
Its how things are done in a properly run corporation. :AA:
Trouble? How is this anything but great news?
Because, dumbass, there is a lawsuit pending about the "secret" deal, which, evidently, wasn't so fracking secret. Gawd you farmers are slow.
KSU Athletic Department = :lol:
Good luck. You idiots, and I mean that literally, should just quit. :flush:
Everyone knew our Ath Dept was completely incompetent. Why the frack does it matter if there is even more evidence of this? It's great news that house is getting cleaned. You're a fracking retard for not being able to comprehend this.
Trouble? How is this anything but great news?KSU Athletic Department = :lol:
does "Lack of Institutional Control" sound familiar? :tongue:
Still trying to figure out how I had such a cognitive disconnect with Krause, when 4 or 5 years ago I went to a whole new level of hate from the Powertards on the Wabash when I was discussing the clusterf_ck that had become the Colbert Hills financing, and how Krause was right there in the middle of all of that. No wonder the KSU Foundation wanted the guy out of athletics.
Very dumb on my part . . . . :banghead: :banghead:
why administrative leave? why not just fire them? don't understand that.
Its how things are done in a properly run corporation. :AA:
don't understand why they don't just fire them and start officially looking for replacements. you don't put your top 2 athletic department officials on admin leave and then retain them. maybe they have buyouts too?
Jim Epps . . . empty suit yes man, who should have retired 8 years ago.
Trouble? How is this anything but great news?
Because, dumbass, there is a lawsuit pending about the "secret" deal, which, evidently, wasn't so fracking secret. Gawd you farmers are slow.
KSU Athletic Department = :lol:
Good luck. You idiots, and I mean that literally, should just quit. :flush:
Everyone knew our Ath Dept was completely incompetent. Why the frack does it matter if there is even more evidence of this? It's great news that house is getting cleaned. You're a fracking retard for not being able to comprehend this.
Again, dumbass, your President was, once again, in the media crying (literally) about his best buddy, Krause, negotiating a secret deal which evidently wasn't very secret. Try not to be so "kstate" will you. Your AD is completely inept. You are embarrassing the state of Kansas, let alone the Big 12. Try not to contibute to the douchebaggery, will you? God you're dull. :rolleyes:
I'll save the little fellow the trouble of copying and pasting this from his home page:
I'm going to speculate that there was a conversation that went something like this:
John Currie to Prince agent: "What would it take to settle this lawsuit? You know it was against rules to negotiate this rogue contract with ONLY our former idiot AD, Bob Krause, and not go through the proper channels."
Prince agent: "John, why don't you run that last part by Epps and Cavello and get back with me. I'll wait by the phone .... "
I'll save the little fellow the trouble of copying and pasting this from his home page:
I'm going to speculate that there was a conversation that went something like this:
John Currie to Prince agent: "What would it take to settle this lawsuit? You know it was against rules to negotiate this rogue contract with ONLY our former idiot AD, Bob Krause, and not go through the proper channels."
Prince agent: "John, why don't you run that last part by Epps and Cavello and get back with me. I'll wait by the phone .... "
I'll save the little fellow the trouble of copying and pasting this from his home page:
I'm going to speculate that there was a conversation that went something like this:
John Currie to Prince agent: "What would it take to settle this lawsuit? You know it was against rules to negotiate this rogue contract with ONLY our former idiot AD, Bob Krause, and not go through the proper channels."
Prince agent: "John, why don't you run that last part by Epps and Cavello and get back with me. I'll wait by the phone .... "
How eactly does Epps and Cavello knowing about the "secret" deal help Prince and his agent in the least? Krause clearly had more authority to execute the deal than either of those two, and the agent/attorney still has the same ethical issues until he can show that KSU's legal counsel was involved in the negotiation.
BTW, if Prince's agent is speaking directly to Currie as your screenplay suggests, the agent has even more ethics problems.
Bob Cavello is a real piece of work. frack that guy. Billy Zabka has a very unEMAW story about him. Don't recall all the specifics but I'm sure he'd love to share now that ADJC is cleaning house :peek:
Bob Cavello is a real piece of work. frack that guy. Billy Zabka has a very unEMAW story about him. Don't recall all the specifics but I'm sure he'd love to share now that ADJC is cleaning house :peek:
LOL, haven't thought about that story in a few years. Fracking Bob Cavello - was very good at covering his own ass. Until now I guess.
Bob Cavello is a real piece of work. frack that guy. Billy Zabka has a very unEMAW story about him. Don't recall all the specifics but I'm sure he'd love to share now that ADJC is cleaning house :peek:
LOL, haven't thought about that story in a few years. Fracking Bob Cavello - was very good at covering his own ass. Until now I guess.
Jim Epps . . . empty suit yes man, who should have retired 8 years ago.
Yup. kurt McGuffin should get his job.
Jim Epps . . . empty suit yes man, who should have retired 8 years ago.
Yup. kurt McGuffin should get his job.
or not. we need new "non contaminated by the old regime" blood. mcguffin has been sucking the teets of the AD for years and has the same BS instilled in him as the guys who taught him the game. no thanks.
or not. we need new "non contaminated by the old regime" blood. mcguffin has been sucking the teets of the AD for years and has the same BS instilled in him as the guys who taught him the game. no thanks.
Gonna have to go with clams here.
or not. we need new "non contaminated by the old regime" blood. mcguffin has been sucking the teets of the AD for years and has the same BS instilled in him as the guys who taught him the game. no thanks.
Gonna have to go with clams here.
Disagree with both of you.
some women involved in the womens basketball program were gay??
So it's possible that Timid Timmy was afraid to fire a guy because that guy might tell people that some women involved in the womens basketball program were gay??possibly because one of those women was a coach.
Pfft . . . that's funny.
So it's possible that Timid Timmy was afraid to fire a guy because that guy might tell people that some women involved in the womens basketball program were gay??possibly because one of those women was a coach.
Pfft . . . that's funny.
hey man I agree with you, TW should've done something about it. The fact that it was a coach is the only reason I can see him NOT doing something about it.So it's possible that Timid Timmy was afraid to fire a guy because that guy might tell people that some women involved in the womens basketball program were gay??possibly because one of those women was a coach.
Pfft . . . that's funny.
Okay . . . and??
So it's possible that Timid Timmy was afraid to fire a guy because that guy might tell people that some women involved in the womens basketball program were gay??possibly because one of those women was a coach.
Pfft . . . that's funny.
or not. we need new "non contaminated by the old regime" blood. mcguffin has been sucking the teets of the AD for years and has the same BS instilled in him as the guys who taught him the game. no thanks.
Gonna have to go with clams here.
Disagree with both of you.
State your case then.
Jim Epps . . . empty suit yes man, who should have retired 8 years ago.
Yup. kurt McGuffin should get his job.
or not. we need new "non contaminated by the old regime" blood. mcguffin has been sucking the teets of the AD for years and has the same BS instilled in him as the guys who taught him the game. no thanks.
he works hard so he should stay, are you fracking kidding me? GMAFB with this weak crape.
or not. we need new "non contaminated by the old regime" blood. mcguffin has been sucking the teets of the AD for years and has the same BS instilled in him as the guys who taught him the game. no thanks.
Gonna have to go with clams here.
Disagree with both of you.
State your case then.
I'm with CaptainCrap on this one. I don't think McGuffin agreed with a lot of stuff that was going on, and I doubt he was involved with any of the crap that Krause pulled. He did seem to be working really hard on fund raising from what I have heard. I'm not sure how successful he has been, but he was/is at least trying to get $$$ from someone not named Vanier. McGuffin is young enough that with competent leadership in the department, he could still grow into a pretty decent administrator. Two Cents
he's part of the AD's old guard
he's part of the AD's old guard
:rolleyes: Just because someone has worked there for more than 5 years doesn't make them "old guard". I know plenty of people that have worked there for that long, if not significantly longer, that were quite pleased with Wednesday's turn of events, as they were no fans of Krause and friends.
I would say that in the upper admin, the old guard has been removed. There are some good people left up there, and may finally be getting the chance to have their good, hard, EMAWing work actually be able to amount to something, instead of their work being sabotaged at every turn by the incompetence above them.
Actually, his bio says he's been at U of Idaho and Eastern Washington. That's not USC or Florida by any stretch, but it's not much different than the types of places a lot athletic admins start their careers.
he works hard so he should stay, are you fracking kidding me? GMAFB with this weak crape.
he's part of the AD's old guard and with the shape that things are in, he needs to go- along with a bunch of others. the dude hasn't left MHK since Altman was in town.
Sorry, McGuffin should go. If you ain't a big-time donor, kurt McGuffin won't even say hello to you. Seriously, I've seen the guy move to another part of the room so he wouldn't have to act like he gave a damn about the donors who weren't "big" enough to waste his time. Either that, or he does the best anti-social impersonation of anyone I've ever seen.
It's fine to have people focused on big money, but if you're standing in the Legends Room or near a basketball loge, and you literally turn the other way when moderate-level donors are around, something is wrong with you. They need more of those donors, not less, and Currie gets it. McGuffin does not.
OUTTA HERE!
Nope, Currie got big bucks from big donors. But at least the guy appears to know how to play the game -- which is to not piss on moderate-level donors or even the yahoos who give 50 bucks and think they own the football program. K-State has fewer big-ass donors than most schools and must rely on moderate donors who someday may turn into bigger donors. That doesn't mean K-State should focus all their attention there; just don't have people on staff who act like they'e too good to talk to everyone whose last name isn't Vanier.
If someone in development is too stupid to know how to do that, than they shouldn't be there. I've just never been impressed with McGuffin.
mcguffin liked krause and wefald well enough to rub their jocks any chance he got, and oh btw, wabash is spot on.Actually, his bio says he's been at U of Idaho and Eastern Washington. That's not USC or Florida by any stretch, but it's not much different than the types of places a lot athletic admins start their careers.
he works hard so he should stay, are you fracking kidding me? GMAFB with this weak crape.
he's part of the AD's old guard and with the shape that things are in, he needs to go- along with a bunch of others. the dude hasn't left MHK since Altman was in town.
I wonder..... just maybe......if some of McGuffin's hard work has been related to some potential donors that have been waiting to see what the economy is going to do, and how badly the Democrats are going to ass-frank them, before making any large commitments to KSU. It just might be a good idea to keep someone with those connections in the department, don't ya think? But Currie doesn't seem to be the type to care much about fund-raising, so I can't imagine why McGuffin wasn't already put on admin leave with Cavello and Epps. Currie probably just hasn't gotten around to evaluating McGuffin's value to the department.
Speaking of "weak crape", all you've offered in opposition is that he was a member of the athletic department at the same time as Krause, et al. What makes you think that McGuffin agreed with the way the department was being run? McGuffin also worked under Weiser, and the disagreements between Weiser and Weef/Krause are well documented. I'm certainly not here to give any compliments to TW, but it's just as likely that McGuffin disagreed with Weef/Krause as much as TW did.
I'll submit my resume. I don't have any athletics management experience whatsoever, but my emaw is through the roof and I'm a big proponent of doing whatever it takes to win and keeping the shady stuff a secret.
Fully on the McGuffin has to go wagon now.
Fully on the McGuffin has to go wagon now.
I can see why. He's obviously guilty of slighting a bunch of tools in the Legends Room, and be puts waaaayyy too much effort in to getting real money while those great folks with their Ben Franklins (one each) weren't shown the proper respect. JFC.
Fully on the McGuffin has to go wagon now.
I can see why. He's obviously guilty of slighting a bunch of tools in the Legends Room, and be puts waaaayyy too much effort in to getting real money while those great folks with their Ben Franklins (one each) weren't shown the proper respect. JFC.
Okay I am convinced . . . McGuffin has to stay.
if you're only working the "big money"...at ksu...you really must have a lot of free time. what is there? like 3-4 people in the whole EMAW nation with any real coin? how f'ing hard is it to get Jack Vanier a drink every saturday?
if you're only working the "big money"...at ksu...you really must have a lot of free time. what is there? like 3-4 people in the whole EMAW nation with any real coin? how f'ing hard is it to get Jack Vanier a drink every saturday?
There's a lot more than 3 or 4, but getting them to contribute large 6 and 7 figure checks to athletics, that's a different story. It would be interesting to know if they even try. Some of the articles I've read about K-State alums who have given millions to other parts of KSU lead me to believe they're not the biggest sports fans.
Sorry, McGuffin should go. If you ain't a big-time donor, kurt McGuffin won't even say hello to you. Seriously, I've seen the guy move to another part of the room so he wouldn't have to act like he gave a damn about the donors who weren't "big" enough to waste his time. Either that, or he does the best anti-social impersonation of anyone I've ever seen.
It's fine to have people focused on big money, but if you're standing in the Legends Room or near a basketball loge, and you literally turn the other way when moderate-level donors are around, something is wrong with you. They need more of those donors, not less, and Currie gets it. McGuffin does not.
OUTTA HERE!
if you're only working the "big money"...at ksu...you really must have a lot of free time. what is there? like 3-4 people in the whole EMAW nation with any real coin? how f'ing hard is it to get Jack Vanier a drink every saturday?
There's a lot more than 3 or 4, but getting them to contribute large 6 and 7 figure checks to athletics, that's a different story. It would be interesting to know if they even try. Some of the articles I've read about K-State alums who have given millions to other parts of KSU lead me to believe they're not the biggest sports fans.
IT'S FRACKIN' kuRT MCGUFFIN, PEOPLE. And there's a reason no one knows him. Do you pissants really think it's been kurt McGuffin driving major fundraising at K-State? Ah, no. That would have been the guy who has a statue of himself outside of Bramlage: Ernie Barrett. Oh, and that guy named Snyder who ran off 11 straight bowl seasons. And the athletic directors who seem to be coming and going through a revolving door lately.
Barrett's been retired for how many years, and there isn't anyone close to being able to raise the jack he did. All McGuffin ever did was shuffle along after Barrett, Wefald and "name the AD," cleaning cheese off of plates, taking drink orders and acting like he was part of the inner circle.
Too bad he didn't really know how to mimic the inner circle. Do you honestly think he's the magical link between the major donors and K-State? Yeah, right. kurt McGuffin. I'm betting Sweet Lou Perkins is beating down his door right now trying to steal this fundraising god away from us. Big donors don't care any more about McGuffin than those "tools" in the Legends Room. Believe me, Jack Vanier ain't calling McGuffin up when he wants to talk cash. And who do you think those "tools" in the Legends Room are? They give a MINIMUM of $5,000 year for the privilege of standing in some crapty room for 20 minutes at halftime of basketball games, standing at a crapty little table eating crapty food and watching Mr. God's Gift to Fundraising (yeah, right) chase after Wefald.
By the way, those in that room typically give $10,000, $25,000, $50,000 and more. And Ernie Barrett and everyone else in the department who had any common sense was glad-handing every one. There's a reason Ernie Barrett had influence with both those who gave millions to K-State and with those who gave hundreds. The guy could sell ice to an Eskimo. While he was dipping into the pockets of a Fred Bramlage, he also was shaking (and breaking) the hands of students, Catbacker groups and anyone who understood what EMAW was. We all know he was focused on landing big money. But he could at least pretend to give a shat about someone other than the owner of Brogden Jeep. And he knew better than anyone that the reason so many people give thousands to the academic side of the house and not athletics is because they've been ignored for so many years. As Dax said, there's lots of money out there; too bad we don't have real fundraisers capable of getting it. Enter John Currie.
But, by all means, pretend that McGuffin is the fundraising genuis that makes K-State's financial engine sing. I mean, it must be so exhausting to pretend you actually give a shat about someone who gives less than a million a year, all the while pretending you're the reason the guy who gave a million actually did it.
I'm surprised we didn't name McGuffin AD. He's that good.
IT'S FRACKIN' kuRT MCGUFFIN, PEOPLE. And there's a reason no one knows him. Do you pissants really think it's been kurt McGuffin driving major fundraising at K-State? Ah, no. That would have been the guy who has a statue of himself outside of Bramlage: Ernie Barrett. Oh, and that guy named Snyder who ran off 11 straight bowl seasons. And the athletic directors who seem to be coming and going through a revolving door lately.
Barrett's been retired for how many years, and there isn't anyone close to being able to raise the jack he did. All McGuffin ever did was shuffle along after Barrett, Wefald and "name the AD," cleaning cheese off of plates, taking drink orders and acting like he was part of the inner circle.
Too bad he didn't really know how to mimic the inner circle. Do you honestly think he's the magical link between the major donors and K-State? Yeah, right. kurt McGuffin. I'm betting Sweet Lou Perkins is beating down his door right now trying to steal this fundraising god away from us. Big donors don't care any more about McGuffin than those "tools" in the Legends Room. Believe me, Jack Vanier ain't calling McGuffin up when he wants to talk cash. And who do you think those "tools" in the Legends Room are? They give a MINIMUM of $5,000 year for the privilege of standing in some crapty room for 20 minutes at halftime of basketball games, standing at a crapty little table eating crapty food and watching Mr. God's Gift to Fundraising (yeah, right) chase after Wefald.
By the way, those in that room typically give $10,000, $25,000, $50,000 and more. And Ernie Barrett and everyone else in the department who had any common sense was glad-handing every one. There's a reason Ernie Barrett had influence with both those who gave millions to K-State and with those who gave hundreds. The guy could sell ice to an Eskimo. While he was dipping into the pockets of a Fred Bramlage, he also was shaking (and breaking) the hands of students, Catbacker groups and anyone who understood what EMAW was. We all know he was focused on landing big money. But he could at least pretend to give a shat about someone other than the owner of Brogden Jeep. And he knew better than anyone that the reason so many people give thousands to the academic side of the house and not athletics is because they've been ignored for so many years. As Dax said, there's lots of money out there; too bad we don't have real fundraisers capable of getting it. Enter John Currie.
But, by all means, pretend that McGuffin is the fundraising genuis that makes K-State's financial engine sing. I mean, it must be so exhausting to pretend you actually give a shat about someone who gives less than a million a year, all the while pretending you're the reason the guy who gave a million actually did it.
I'm surprised we didn't name McGuffin AD. He's that good.
Quit crushin' on me, Steve Dave.
Truce, Spani? If you don't say yes, I will crush you like a dove in Al Bohl's driveway...
Weefer and Krause were in their own little world . . .
what the f does Mike Clark do?
what the f does Mike Clark do?
He used to talk at Catbacker functions about the basketball facility improvements....god knows he's not doing that now.
Weiser hired him.
I think its pretty awesome that people who have absolutely no clue what these AD people do on a daily basis are passing judgements about how well they do it.
I think its pretty awesome that people who have absolutely no clue what these AD people do on a daily basis are passing judgements about how well they do it.
I think its pretty awesome that people who have absolutely no clue what these AD people do on a daily basis are passing judgements about how well they do it.
Welcome to the real world . . . .where people who don't have a clue what other people do everyday pass judgment all the time based on their perception of the end results.
The end results right now for K-State athletics are a ship with a new captain trying to get the rudder fixed, and a major facilities project that for right now is dead in the water.
I think its pretty awesome that people who have absolutely no clue what these AD people do on a daily basis are passing judgements about how well they do it.
Welcome to the real world . . . .where people who don't have a clue what other people do everyday pass judgment all the time based on their perception of the end results.
The end results right now for K-State athletics are a ship with a new captain trying to get the rudder fixed, and a major facilities project that for right now is dead in the water.
Oh I have no problem with people critiquing high-profile jobs, like UP or AD. Even those who did not ask to be placed into high-profile jobs, like the Deputy AD and so forth. I guess my problem is more with some of the names in this thread, where no one on this board really understands what the job actually is — unlike a coach or AD (even though most people don't really understand those, it comes with the territory). I guess it seems a little more stupid to say someone should be fired when some of you guys don't know anything about them or their job, other than a title.
How about we let Currie do the job of evaluating who needs to go — he has already proven to have a pretty good read on that so far.
like, I don't have to be the captain of an exxon oil tanker to know if a tanker hits a f'ing reef and causes astronomical damages, that the captain f'd up. And not just the captain but all the other dipsh*ts helping navigate that mf'er.
And not just the captain but all the other dipsh*ts helping navigate that mf'er.
Dax- what's your first impressions of our new administration?
And not just the captain but all the other dipsh*ts helping navigate that mf'er.
Even the guy that was ignored or shouted down when he said "Hey, Cap'n, you might want to turn on that GPS. There are a lot of reefs out here."
Or what about the guy that was scrubbing the deck, and wasn't allowed to speak to the Captain, but told the guy holding the mop bucket, "The Cap'n is about to run into that reef up there, I wish he would change course."
Not saying either applies to anyone in the KSU ath dept.
so you're saying mcguffin wasn't a strong enough presence in the room to make his opinion heard and acted upon. and you want to keep him around? there's very little downside to getting rid of him (losing what little momentum we have) and a lot of upside to cleaning house (renewed faith in our athletic dept by people who might be willing to give money to the dept after this circus they've spent our money on).
my view of our former athletic dept and the entire crew? they were a joke and i'd never waste another dime with them.
and ya, wabash owns this thread