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Title: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:32:46 AM
holly crap think how badass this team will be
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: sys on November 29, 2008, 01:34:15 AM
meh.  about average.  really young.  like uk tonight.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: bam8485 on November 29, 2008, 01:35:29 AM
  :skillz: :woot: :cheers: :ksu: :ksu: :dancin: :woohoo:  Thats how i feel about it!
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 01:37:20 AM
meh.  about average.  really young.  like uk tonight.

A sr., three jr., and a freshman is young?
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on November 29, 2008, 01:38:17 AM
holly crap think how badass this team will be

we keep up the defensive swarm mentality and hit a reasonable number of shots and we'll be just fine THIS year... 20win fine, i think
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:38:34 AM
meh.  about average.  really young.  like uk tonight.

A sr., three jr., and a freshman is young?
clemente, pullen, sutton, judge,(idk who other starter will be, so much talent there) just think about it god dammit
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 29, 2008, 01:39:04 AM
matters how good judge/kelly are.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:40:13 AM
matters how good judge/kelly are.
they will be amazing fatty, martin can coach
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 01:41:25 AM
meh.  about average.  really young.  like uk tonight.

A sr., three jr., and a freshman is young?
clemente, pullen, sutton, judge,(idk who other starter will be, so much talent there) just think about it god dammit

please review my statement and notice the ? at the end.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:42:42 AM
meh.  about average.  really young.  like uk tonight.

A sr., three jr., and a freshman is young?
clemente, pullen, sutton, judge,(idk who other starter will be, so much talent there) just think about it god dammit

please review my statement and notice the ? at the end.
no crap i was naming the players
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: Bullfn33 on November 29, 2008, 01:43:33 AM
2010-2011 will be THE year we go deep.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:43:40 AM
wally '09 = jamar '08
rodney '09 = pullen '07
curtis '09 = dk '07

IMO
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: McLovin on November 29, 2008, 01:44:15 AM
meh.  about average.  really young.  like uk tonight.

A sr., three jr., and a freshman is young?
clemente, pullen, sutton, judge,(idk who other starter will be, so much talent there) just think about it god dammit

please review my statement and notice the ? at the end.
no crap i was naming the players

Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:45:18 AM
meh.  about average.  really young.  like uk tonight.

A sr., three jr., and a freshman is young?
clemente, pullen, sutton, judge,(idk who other starter will be, so much talent there) just think about it god dammit


please review my statement and notice the ? at the end.
no crap i was naming the players

Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
lol what the hell
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:46:42 AM
and wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hill
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:48:57 AM
and wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hill

i really wouldn't label Wally the savior next year right now man.  no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. 
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:49:27 AM
and wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hill

i really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man.  no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. 
wally is only a 5 star
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: sys on November 29, 2008, 01:50:07 AM
A sr., three jr., and a freshman is young?

yes.  inexperienced if you prefer.  playing crap old players w. highly recruited underclassmen on the bench = young.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:50:21 AM
and wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hill

i really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man.  no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. 
wally is only a 5 star

as was jason bennett
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: AzCat on November 29, 2008, 01:51:13 AM
curtis '09 = dk '07

I think you're probably selling CK way short here but we shall see.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:52:01 AM
and wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hill

i really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man.  no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. 
wally is only a 5 star

as was jason bennett
lol dude wally has ups, bennette was just &@#%ing tall
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 01:52:53 AM
A sr., three jr., and a freshman is young?

yes.  inexperienced if you prefer.  playing crap old players w. highly recruited underclassmen on the bench = young.

Denis, Jake, and Sutton are crap?  GMAFB dude.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:53:11 AM
and wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hill

i really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man.  no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. 
wally is only a 5 star

as was jason bennett
lol dude wally has ups, bennette was just fracking tall

in that sense Patrick Patterson was a 5 star.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: Skydog on November 29, 2008, 01:53:39 AM
curtis '09 = dk '07

I think you're probably selling CK way short here but we shall see.

Completely agree. CK= :love:
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: AzCat on November 29, 2008, 01:54:03 AM
and wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hill

i really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man.  no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. 
wally is only a 5 star

as was jason bennett
lol dude wally has ups, bennette was just fracking tall

Bennett was ranked on that sliding scale recruiting services used to rank Wooly's overseas guys.  Subtract 2 1/2 stars if compariing JB to domestic talent. 
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:54:36 AM
and wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hill

i really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man.  no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. 
wally is only a 5 star

as was jason bennett
lol dude wally has ups, bennette was just fracking tall

in that sense Patrick Patterson was a 5 star.
patrick wasnt even that bad
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: sys on November 29, 2008, 01:55:05 AM
A sr., three jr., and a freshman is young?

yes.  inexperienced if you prefer.  playing crap old players w. highly recruited underclassmen on the bench = young.

Denis, Jake, and Sutton are crap?  GMAFB dude.

sorry.  thought you were talking about uk.  thought it was weird you didn't ref patt, but just went with it.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: Leyton on November 29, 2008, 01:55:13 AM
Wally's thin frame and tentative nature will make it tough for him to bang inside much next year.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 01:56:06 AM
and wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hill

i really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man.  no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. 
wally is only a 5 star

as was jason bennett
lol dude wally has ups, bennette was just fracking tall

Bennett was ranked on that sliding scale recruiting services used to rank Wooly's overseas guys.  Subtract 2 1/2 stars if compariing JB to domestic talent. 

just naming 5 stars since he threw it out there.  can't expect every 5 star we get/will get to be as productive as Beasley was as a freshman.  i really, really hope i'm wrong, but Beasley was a special player and that '07 class was insane.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 01:56:51 AM
sorry.  thought you were talking about uk.  thought it was weird you didn't ref patt, but just went with it.

Thought you were going hardcore negative dude.  Don't think the cats are young next year, about average age wise.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 01:57:16 AM
and wally will be much better than jamar, but in few years jamar will be impressive after he puts on more muscle, overall k-state will be amazing storied program in long run, great job coach martin and coach hill

i really wouldn't put label Wally the savior next year right now man.  no one in that class has near the hype that the guys coming out of the '07 class did. 
wally is only a 5 star

as was jason bennett
lol dude wally has ups, bennette was just fracking tall

Bennett was ranked on that sliding scale recruiting services used to rank Wooly's overseas guys.  Subtract 2 1/2 stars if compariing JB to domestic talent. 

just naming 5 stars since he threw it out there.  can't expect every 5 star we get/will get to be as productive as Beasley was as a freshman.  i really, really hope i'm wrong, but Beasley was a special player and that '07 class was insane.
i aint saying wally will be beasley, im just saying wally will be a special player because martin can work with talent like him
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: sys on November 29, 2008, 01:59:31 AM
about average age wise.

prob true.  but all the supposed upgrades from this year will be young.  cept kelly.  they'll be better in '10-11, imo.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:00:49 AM
about average age wise.

prob true.  but all the supposed upgrades from this year will be young.  cept kelly.  they'll be better in '10-11, imo.

The loss of a veteran PG makes me hesitant to call '10-11 the golden year, IMO '09-10 will be better.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 29, 2008, 02:01:40 AM
about average age wise.

prob true.  but all the supposed upgrades from this year will be young.  cept kelly.  they'll be better in '10-11, imo.

The loss of a veteran PG makes me hesitant to call '10-11 the golden year, IMO '09-10 will be better.

no way.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 02:02:00 AM
about average age wise.

prob true.  but all the supposed upgrades from this year will be young.  cept kelly.  they'll be better in '10-11, imo.

The loss of a veteran PG makes me hesitant to call '10-11 the golden year, IMO '09-10 will be better.

no way.
time will tell
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:02:29 AM
The loss of Denis will hurt a lot.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 02:03:05 AM
The loss of Denis will hurt a lot.
hopefully nick russell will be a stud and will replace him
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: Skydog on November 29, 2008, 02:03:21 AM
about average age wise.

prob true.  but all the supposed upgrades from this year will be young.  cept kelly.  they'll be better in '10-11, imo.

The loss of a veteran PG makes me hesitant to call '10-11 the golden year, IMO '09-10 will be better.

At least Russel and McG will have a year under their belt.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 02:03:40 AM
about average age wise.

prob true.  but all the supposed upgrades from this year will be young.  cept kelly.  they'll be better in '10-11, imo.

The loss of a veteran PG makes me hesitant to call '10-11 the golden year, IMO '09-10 will be better.

Jake will be a senior and Russell will be a sophomore.  '09-10 might be closer to last year b/c we play 10x better defense than last year and i expect big things in '10-11.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 29, 2008, 02:03:48 AM
by then we'll have a suitable replacement.

you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:05:13 AM
by then we'll have a suitable replacement.

you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year.

Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.

And you've gotta get worse eventually.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 02:05:49 AM
each year we progress, hopefully the better recruits we will get each year which makes the program go amazing
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 02:07:32 AM
by then we'll have a suitable replacement.

you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year.

Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.

And you've gotta get worse eventually.

what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)?  Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 02:09:09 AM
by then we'll have a suitable replacement.

you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year.

Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.

And you've gotta get worse eventually.

what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)?  Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.
give clemente time, he is going to be a hell of a player, so fast and can drive the ball controlling it
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 29, 2008, 02:09:30 AM
i love clemente.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 02:09:57 AM
i love clemente.
who doesn't??
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:10:10 AM
by then we'll have a suitable replacement.

you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year.

Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.

And you've gotta get worse eventually.

what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)?  Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.


It's not like I'm saying they'll tank in 10-11, I just don't think they'll be better than 09-10.  Just my IMO dude, it's sort of impossible to prove it right or wrong.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 29, 2008, 02:11:53 AM
by then we'll have a suitable replacement.

you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year.

Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.

And you've gotta get worse eventually.

what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)?  Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.


It's not like I'm saying they'll tank in 10-11, I just don't think they'll be better than 09-10.  Just my IMO dude, it's sort of impossible to prove it right or wrong.

you completely underrated how much our 2009 recruiting class will get better after one season. And, we add the 2010 class as well. Think about it, we lose 1 legit player (den-clem) the next 2 years and we add up to 5 legit players.

We'll be much better 2 years from now.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 02:13:16 AM
by then we'll have a suitable replacement.

you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year.

Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.

And you've gotta get worse eventually.

what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)?  Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.


It's not like I'm saying they'll tank in 10-11, I just don't think they'll be better than 09-10.  Just my IMO dude, it's sort of impossible to prove it right or wrong.

you completely underrated how much our 2009 recruiting class will get better after one season. And, we add the 2010 class as well. Think about it, we lose 1 legit player (den-clem) the next 2 years and we add up to 5 legit players.

We'll be much better 2 years from now.
fatty, whats your prediction on how the 2011 and 2012 classes will look like for kstate ??
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: JTKSU on November 29, 2008, 02:13:46 AM
by then we'll have a suitable replacement.

you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year.

Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.

And you've gotta get worse eventually.

what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)?  Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.


It's not like I'm saying they'll tank in 10-11, I just don't think they'll be better than 09-10.  Just my IMO dude, it's sort of impossible to prove it right or wrong.

you completely underrated how much our 2009 recruiting class will get better after one season. And, we add the 2010 class as well. Think about it, we lose 1 legit player (den-clem) the next 2 years and we add up to 5 legit players.

We'll be much better 2 years from now.

QFT.  I guess it's just hard too see it that way right now because Denis is so valuable to this current team.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: CatsNChiefs on November 29, 2008, 02:15:00 AM
you completely underrated how much our 2009 recruiting class will get better after one season. And, we add the 2010 class as well. Think about it, we lose 1 legit player (den-clem) the next 2 years and we add up to 5 legit players.

We'll be much better 2 years from now.

I'm sorry, I'll consult the manual on improvements FUTURE players will make in the FUTURE next time.  My bad.
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 29, 2008, 02:15:29 AM
by then we'll have a suitable replacement.

you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year.

Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.

And you've gotta get worse eventually.

what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)?  Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.


It's not like I'm saying they'll tank in 10-11, I just don't think they'll be better than 09-10.  Just my IMO dude, it's sort of impossible to prove it right or wrong.

not trying to attack you as it's only my opinion as well, but we're only a short way into this season.  i think the fact that VMI beat Kentucky at their place and we lost to them really is pissing me off.  time for a nappy nap to sleep it off like i did with the Snyder (re)hire.  
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: royalswild on November 29, 2008, 02:16:46 AM
by then we'll have a suitable replacement.

you don't lose one player and get worse, like...ever. If KSU returned walker this year, we'd be better than last year.

Frank prefers the two guard system, seems like going from two vets to a vet and some young guys will be difficult.

And you've gotta get worse eventually.

what's the difference between a junior and sophomore PG's (this year) and a senior and sophomore PG's ('10-11)?  Clemente hasn't really shown to be better than Pullen was last year so far this season.


It's not like I'm saying they'll tank in 10-11, I just don't think they'll be better than 09-10.  Just my IMO dude, it's sort of impossible to prove it right or wrong.

not trying to attack you as it's only my opinion as well, but we're only a short way into this season.  i think the fact that VMI beat Kentucky at their place and we lost to them really is pissing me off.  time for a nappy nap to sleep it off like i did with the Snyder (re)hire.  
dont meltdown, you know k-state should of won this by alot, they just played a crapty 1st half
Title: Re: 2009-2010
Post by: JTKSU on November 29, 2008, 02:21:00 AM
you completely underrated how much our 2009 recruiting class will get better after one season. And, we add the 2010 class as well. Think about it, we lose 1 legit player (den-clem) the next 2 years and we add up to 5 legit players.

We'll be much better 2 years from now.

I'm sorry, I'll consult the manual on improvements FUTURE players will make in the FUTURE next time.  My bad.

Don't forget to take into account the future players that we don't even know about yet into the equation.  I think we need that Doc from Back to the Future to explain all of this to us.  Plus, if future players run into current players, does that totally &@#% up the spacetime continuum?    :ohno: