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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: jester66 on November 24, 2008, 07:53:07 AM
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http://www.themercury.com/k-statesports/article.aspx?articleId=4a043d190f944e7183285e0e9b37793e
Me like. Nationally respected, Texas ties, loyal to KSU and Snyder.
Now I want Long.
Coach Snyder has an embarrasment of riches of former players. He need to use them for recruiting and position coaches.
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Yeah, lets see if we can fill the staff with nothing but complete and utter losers.
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Yeah, lets see if we can fill the staff with nothing but complete and utter losers.
My money is firmly on Rusty for the longest meltdown. Figure FFF will just implode.
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2002-03 SMU 3-9 .250
2003-04 SMU 0-12 .000
2004-05 SMU 3-8 .273
2005-06 SMU 5-6 .455
2006-07 SMU 6-6 .500
2007-08 SMU 1-11 .083
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2002-03 SMU 3-9 .250
2003-04 SMU 0-12 .000
2004-05 SMU 3-8 .273
2005-06 SMU 5-6 .455
2006-07 SMU 6-6 .500
2007-08 SMU 1-11 .083
Good thing he's not the HC but he is an excellent choice at DC.
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While we're discussing our supposed front-runners for the coordinator spots who also happen to be utter losers:
"Chuck Long's tenure at SDSU was not success, as head coach, his Aztecs teams went 9-27 in three seasons. He was fired on November 23, 2008, less than 24 hours after the Aztecs finished the worst season in school history."
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2002-03 SMU 3-9 .250
2003-04 SMU 0-12 .000
2004-05 SMU 3-8 .273
2005-06 SMU 5-6 .455
2006-07 SMU 6-6 .500
2007-08 SMU 1-11 .083
Good thing he's not the HC but he is an excellent choice at DC.
You have been exceptionally positive as of late. What gives? :flush:
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2002-03 SMU 3-9 .250
2003-04 SMU 0-12 .000
2004-05 SMU 3-8 .273
2005-06 SMU 5-6 .455
2006-07 SMU 6-6 .500
2007-08 SMU 1-11 .083
Good thing he's not the HC but he is an excellent choice at DC.
I realize that you're a moron, but even you should be smart enough to know that he, or a similar loser, will be head coach in waiting.
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Yeah, lets see if we can fill the staff with nothing but complete and utter losers.
My money is firmly on Rusty for the longest meltdown. Figure FFF will just implode.
He's right though. The guy was just short of mediocre at SMU. I'd rather find a guy we could get as HCIW like Venables who hasn't had a chance to fail, than get a Dimel or Bennett and hope one of them doesn't fail again. It would be easier to sell to recruits.
Come on, Az. One of these coordinators will get the job.
18-52 :yuck:
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Well, I have to agree. Based on Phil's record at SMU, it is totally insane that K-State is hiring him as HC.
Edit - I've just discovered that, contrary to many posters, Phil is NOT going to be HC. He'll be the defensive coordinator, which, as the name implies, is responsible for defense. Now, I know that Phil's got some big shoes to fill after the last three years, but I think he can do it.
Anybody re-watch the 2000 KSU v NU game? Did you see Bennett on the sideline? Yeah, that was fun. We had a pretty good defense that year, as I recall...
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Well, I have to agree. Based on Phil's record at SMU, it is totally insane that K-State is hiring him as HC.
Edit - I've just discovered that, contrary to many posters, Phil is NOT going to be HC. He'll be the defensive coordinator, which, as the name implies, is responsible for defense. Now, I know that Phil's got some big shoes to fill after the last three years, but I think he can do it.
Why would he accept the DC position?
His current position is much, much better.
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What a fracking disaster. I am amazed at the incompetence of the AD. KSU football is done. They had a few good years, but it was more than likely a fluke that great players wanted to come to manhattan. Who is going to come play for an old man and a bunch of proven loser coordinators? Can someone email Weefer and Krause and make sure they know it isn't 1989? :flush:
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2002-03 SMU 3-9 .250
2003-04 SMU 0-12 .000
2004-05 SMU 3-8 .273
2005-06 SMU 5-6 .455
2006-07 SMU 6-6 .500
2007-08 SMU 1-11 .083
Good thing he's not the HC but he is an excellent choice at DC.
I realize that you're a moron, but even you should be smart enough to know that he, or a similar loser, will be head coach in waiting.
exactly, if this is, I don't know...the winter of '99 and we name Bennett as the DC, then I'm cool with it. But it's 2008, and whomever we name on this staff has a high likelihood of being the head coach designate, so if you surround yourself with coordinators who were losers as head coaches, then how am I supposed to be elated that those losers have the potential to take over KSU?
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Oh no Bennett is coming back :crybaby:
I hate Top 5 Nationally Ranked Defenses each year.
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Oh no Bennett is coming back :crybaby:
I hate Top 5 Nationally Ranked Defenses each year.
#64 is not top 5, last time I checked.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&rpt=IA_teamscordef&site=org
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Oh no Bennett is coming back :crybaby:
I hate Top 5 Nationally Ranked Defenses each year.
#64 is not top 5, last time I checked.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&rpt=IA_teamscordef&site=org
gmafb rusty........what did he do here at k-state?
pitts D has already improved under him.
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Oh no Bennett is coming back :crybaby:
I hate Top 5 Nationally Ranked Defenses each year.
#64 is not top 5, last time I checked.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&rpt=IA_teamscordef&site=org
gmafb rusty........what did he do here at k-state?
pitts D has already improved under him.
Last year they were #42.
:dunno:
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&rpt=IA_teamscordef&site=org
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Oh no Bennett is coming back :crybaby:
I hate Top 5 Nationally Ranked Defenses each year.
he hasn't had a top 5 defense since he was at KSU (with, basically, players he didn't recruit). He's a fantastic coach when he doesn't have to recruit the players. You want to know what Phil's defense will look like with no talent? We just saw it the past two years.
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Oh no Bennett is coming back :crybaby:
I hate Top 5 Nationally Ranked Defenses each year.
#64 is not top 5, last time I checked.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&rpt=IA_teamscordef&site=org
gmafb rusty........what did he do here at k-state?
pitts D has already improved under him.
Last year they were #42.
:dunno:
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&rpt=IA_teamscordef&site=org
still got two games left :cyclist: and about a 6pt difference.
Penalties are down and turnovers are ^
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LMAO
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I doubt Bennett is DC, or "HCIW".
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who do you suggest as a D coordinator rusty?
realistic choice.
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who do you suggest as a D coordinator rusty?
realistic choice.
I suggest firing Bill, hiring BV as head coach, and letting him pick one.
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Bennett-DC
Long-OC HCIW
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:rolleyes:
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Bennett did have a strong defense when he was here 10 years ago. The question you have to ask yourselves (and I;m just playing devil's advocate here) is can his DOD style defense handle the spread offenses?
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Bennett-DC
Long-OC HCIW
that would be much worse.
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a quote from Stan this morning, and I'm not even making this up:
you let the cream rist to the top. Brooks Barta is a HS coach, but if he was on the staff for a few years, maybe he gets to the point where he can take over.
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a quote from Stan this morning, and I'm not even making this up:
you let the cream rist to the top. Brooks Barta is a HS coach, but if he was on the staff for a few years, maybe he gets to the point where he can take over.
Stan fracking weber :lol:
we shoulda listened to sproles
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sigh.
At this point in time this is the dream scenario I think.
MAYYYYYYYYYYBE Phil Bennett has learned what went wrong in his youth and can make a good HC.
His defenses were good, maybe a little too aggressive at times (I remember us getting torched on all out blitzes a lot).
I think he will be a good recruiter, he has the personality for it. I can live with HCIW PB.
I cannot abide McCarney, Dimel, or M. Stoops.
In a way failing outside of a BCS school is giving me hope about Phil.
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Bennett is by far the worst HCIW you named. Everyone else has at least tasted success as a HC.
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It's going to be
Dimel.
bennett won't come just to be a DC for 3 years until snyder retires AGAIN.
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sigh.
At this point in time this is the dream scenario I think.
MAYYYYYYYYYYBE Phil Bennett has learned what went wrong in his youth and can make a good HC.
His defenses were good, maybe a little too aggressive at times (I remember us getting torched on all out blitzes a lot).
I think he will be a good recruiter, he has the personality for it. I can live with HCIW PB.
I cannot abide McCarney, Dimel, or M. Stoops.
In a way failing outside of a BCS school is giving me hope about Phil.
my understanding is that the oc will also be the HC in Waiting and it is not Dimel. :ksu:
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It's going to be
Dimel.
bennett won't come just to be a DC for 3 years until snyder retires AGAIN.
T-30mins till deletion time? :beerchug:
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It's Chuck Long.
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brilliant. chuck long was ron prince at SDSU.
Gary's going to take the Tech job when Leach moves on.
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It sucks that we can't fill our assistant positions with winning head coaches.
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It sucks that we can't fill our assistant positions with winning head coaches.
lol
qft stunz
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It sucks that we can't fill our assistant positions with winning head coaches.
When the assistants are going to take over when Old Balls retires (again) then it’s kind of important to hire a coach who has been successful….which you can't really do because those coaches haven't been fired.......and the hypocritical part of all of this is if Bill does, in fact, name a successor…..so what we’re saying is that this loser successor wasn’t good enough to be coach now, but will be in 2 years?
This isn’t like naming an assistant as a head coach like Mack or Alvarez did, they were at places for long periods of time and then handed it off. Bill would essentially be saying that I’m here for a few years so you tards can feel comfortable, then I’ll hand it off to some guy who has sucked at being a HC before this. bill should say he’s going to coach until he dies.
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Bennett did have a strong defense when he was here 10 years ago. The question you have to ask yourselves (and I;m just playing devil's advocate here) is can his DOD style defense handle the spread offenses?
The answer is obviously NO. Just look at what Tech did to his defenses back in the day.
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what if we promise them the HCIW position.....then Wefald and Krause leave and the new administration can always say tough sh1t
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Not if it's a part of their contract or a verbal is reached with the HCIW as part of the deal.
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It sucks that we can't fill our assistant positions with winning head coaches.
When the assistants are going to take over when Old Balls retires (again) then it’s kind of important to hire a coach who has been successful….which you can't really do because those coaches haven't been fired.......and the hypocritical part of all of this is if Bill does, in fact, name a successor…..so what we’re saying is that this loser successor wasn’t good enough to be coach now, but will be in 2 years?
This isn’t like naming an assistant as a head coach like Mack or Alvarez did, they were at places for long periods of time and then handed it off. Bill would essentially be saying that I’m here for a few years so you tards can feel comfortable, then I’ll hand it off to some guy who has sucked at being a HC before this. bill should say he’s going to coach until he dies.
That may be true. I would hold off on believing that Bennett will be the successor though. Also, you can't base his future on "just because he couldn't win at SMU". There are obviously other factors to look at, and he even almost broke through at SMU. This is sounding like retard NFL fans saying, "OMG we suck, the coach must be bad!!!"
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You have been exceptionally positive as of late. What gives? :flush:
The past three years we've bitched about the poor coaching at KSU. Age aside, and yes it is a consideration, I can't think of a better more proven choice than Snyder to head up a program. Bennett & Long would be very Snyderesque choices, he knows them both well and probably trusts them, they're proven commodities at least in their boxes. Bennett may or may not be HC material but he's proven that he's a very solid DC. Long may or may not be HC material but he had great success as an OC. Whatever else might happen we'll see far better coached teams the next few years if it's Snyder, Bennett, & Long heading things up.
Realistically KSU doesn't have the bucks to hire away a successful BCS HC so it's unknowns or mid-major SLTH types. This is probably a better option.
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"Yeah, lets see if we can fill the staff with nothing but complete and utter losers."
I doubt you are an option for a position.