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Title: AD named...
Post by: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2008, 11:12:13 AM
Krause.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=793886 (http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=793886)
Title: Krause the new AD
Post by: catzacker on April 04, 2008, 11:13:14 AM
http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=1432641 (http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=1432641)

meh
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catzacker on April 04, 2008, 11:14:25 AM
uh, Fan, this is already being discussed thoroughly here: http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=25390.msg325206#new (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=25390.msg325206#new)
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2008, 11:15:39 AM
uh, Fan, this is already being discussed thoroughly here: http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=25390.msg325206#new (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=25390.msg325206#new)


I see you have a time machine.
Title: Re: Krause the new AD
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2008, 11:15:52 AM
Knew it was coming.  Dax, can we get a summary of the doings that led to this.  TIA.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catzacker on April 04, 2008, 11:19:24 AM
I think Dax pretty much nailed it, except for the BK isn't going to be the next AD part. 

Here's a couple of things to consider.

They are biding their their time on the new AD hire.  Epps is managing the day-to-day office stuff.   Bob Krause is in the process of exploding Tim Weiser's strategic "vision" and implementing his own which is vastly more aggressive.   The earnest search for a new AD will likely start sometime in the weeks following the Final Four this weekend.   BK probably won't be the next AD, but I hear BK no longer wants to see a guy with "Emporia State" ideas at the helm, he wants somebody that thinks a lot bigger.

Oh, but I hate to break it too you guys . . . but the next AD hire will likely have to agree to give Prince at this season and next season minimum.   
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: cireksu on April 04, 2008, 11:29:10 AM
Why can't our school do anything good.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catzacker on April 04, 2008, 11:33:45 AM
Would an AD worth a damn want to come to KSU knowing that shortly his boss (Univ Pres) will retire and he'll get a new boss? 

I ask because our UP seems to be more involved in athletics and more supportive overall of athletics than most (or at least he's more outwardly supportive).  So therefore his retirement/leaving and the replacement, which would no doubt not be within, would pressumably be less "supportive/involved" in athletics.  There's good and bad to that. 

Also, I do like Krause's mustache more than Tim's goatee/fun manchu he used to have.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2008, 11:47:54 AM
Why this is mostly good.   

Krause clearly has ties to big money. 

Krause is already blowing up Emporia State Tim's "master" facilities plans.   Krause wants it to be much more ambitious.   

Bad . . . Krause likes Prince.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2008, 11:59:49 AM
Why this is mostly good.   

Krause clearly has ties to big money. 

Krause is already blowing up Emporia State Tim's "master" facilities plans.   Krause wants it to be much more ambitious.   

Bad . . . Krause likes Prince.

If what Dax says is true about BK's ambition (and I don't doubt it), then I am happy with this.


Prince will hang himself with his own rope.  I could care less if Krause likes him.  The Pres (curent or future) will be forced to see to that.  In the mean time, Prince had better hope Frank continues to win.  He  needs the distraction.

Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Kat Kid on April 04, 2008, 12:04:58 PM
Dax has done excellent reporting on this issue.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2008, 12:06:19 PM
He kind'a looks like Captain Kangaroo.  Give him a bowl haircut and it's spot on.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2008, 12:14:27 PM
He kind'a looks like Captain Kangaroo.  Give him a bowl haircut and it's spot on.

(http://www.k-state.edu/media/mediaguide/mgphotos/krausebob.jpg)

(http://www.askjimmycarter.com/images/Captain%20Kangaroo.jpg)


Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: ksu_FAN on April 04, 2008, 12:16:30 PM
Why this is mostly good.   

Krause clearly has ties to big money. 

Krause is already blowing up Emporia State Tim's "master" facilities plans.   Krause wants it to be much more ambitious.   

Bad . . . Krause likes Prince.

The bad really isn't that bad.  If Prince continues to flounder like he has in many ways from November until now then Krause's hand will be forced.  No AD will let the money disappear that comes from football.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Jesus Shuttlesworth on April 04, 2008, 12:37:53 PM
He kind'a looks like Captain Kangaroo.  Give him a bowl haircut and it's spot on.

(http://www.k-state.edu/media/mediaguide/mgphotos/krausebob.jpg)

(http://www.askjimmycarter.com/images/Captain%20Kangaroo.jpg)




Are you Jimmy Carter?  If so, thanks for trying to ruin this country. 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catdude33 on April 04, 2008, 12:48:01 PM
Serious Question(s):  What is the standard job description of the Athletic Director?  How important is having the right AD to the overall success of athletics?

The reason I ask is because it didn't seem like the hiring process was that big of a deal to most people.  I know they are in on hiring and the budget and stuff, but really, how vital is having a good AD to success in the two major sports?  :nerd:
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Jesus Shuttlesworth on April 04, 2008, 12:50:41 PM
Question to ask yourself:

What other multi-million dollar enterprise would even consider hiring a guy with Krause's resume to be its CEO? 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2008, 12:51:54 PM
Question to ask yourself:

What other multi-million dollar enterprise would even consider hiring a guy with Krause's resume to be its CEO? 

Non-profits primarily engaged in fundraising.  Pretty much his job as AD fwiw.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catzacker on April 04, 2008, 01:11:09 PM
Question to ask yourself:

What other multi-million dollar enterprise would even consider hiring a guy with Krause's resume to be its CEO? 

I think it's an equal opportunity thing.  For years women have been screwing their way to the top, now we're giving a guy a chance to do the same thing. 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2008, 01:50:13 PM
Question to ask yourself:

What other multi-million dollar enterprise would even consider hiring a guy with Krause's resume to be its CEO? 

I think it's an equal opportunity thing.  For years women have been screwing their way to the top, now we're giving a guy a chance to do the same thing. 

Jesus, we are the most diverse university in America...

- Black football coach, with white wife
- Handicapped Defensive Coordinator
- Cuban MBB coach, with black wife
- Assistant MBB coach is a black guy from DC who get DUI's in a BMW (very urban/hip-hop)
- Lesbian WBB coach, posing as a fundamentalist christian
- Sexually empowered Trophy-Husband AD
- President is from the white part of Minnesota

It's like a sitcom.

Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2008, 01:51:33 PM
Jesus, we are the most diverse university in America...

- Black football coach, with white wife
- Handicapped Defensive Coordinator
- Cuban MBB coach, with black wife
- Assistant MBB coach is a black guy from DC who get DUI's in a BMW (very urban/hip-hop)
- Lesbian WBB coach, posing as a fundamentalist christian
- Sexually empowered Trophy-Husband AD
- President is from the white part of Minnesota

It's like a sitcom.

LOL
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: SuperSoulFighter on April 04, 2008, 02:30:25 PM
Question to ask yourself:

What other multi-million dollar enterprise would even consider hiring a guy with Krause's resume to be its CEO? 

Question to ask yourself:

What other university would even consider hiring the CEO of a multi-million dollar enterprise to be it's AD?
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catdude33 on April 04, 2008, 02:42:44 PM
I'm a little more confused now than I was when I asked the questions.  I'd like Dax to respond because he usually knows a lot about stuff that I usually don't care about.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2008, 02:51:11 PM
Having a good AD is really important.   The thing is, we've had 3 straight bean counters as our AD at K-State.   Timmy was probably the best bean counter of the 3, because he had a partial clue as to how big time athletics is operated these days, but he took an Emporia State approach to everything.   Timmy wasn't really all that passionate about K-State, that's why all the, "Tim Weiser lets other people have the glory" was such Bull$hit.  You don't go out and raise a bunch of money sending the pissants in to do the work, you've got to have a closer.   I think Bob Krause is more of the "closer" type, and based on what I hear, he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff than Timmy Weiser ever wanted to be. 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2008, 02:55:27 PM
he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff

Excellent, hopefully he has got the Gary Barnett message. 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: KSUTOMMY on April 04, 2008, 02:57:10 PM
He kind'a looks like Captain Kangaroo.  Give him a bowl haircut and it's spot on.

(http://www.k-state.edu/media/mediaguide/mgphotos/krausebob.jpg)

(http://www.askjimmycarter.com/images/Captain%20Kangaroo.jpg)




Are you Jimmy Carter George Bush?  If so, thanks for trying to ruin this country. 

fixed it for ya! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 04, 2008, 02:59:05 PM
Oh . . . if you ever listened closely to Timmy, he always talked about k-state being a "great experience for our student athletes" . . . hey, that's great, I mean what AD wouldn't want that right??  What that really was is resume talk . . . that screams league office, conference commish speak, "Hey, look at me, I didn't put any real pressure on anybody I hired to win, I just wanted a great experience for our student athletes."  Oh yeah that's excellent that's the kind of mentality we want to bring to the Big XX conference.  Tim Weiser, "Hey did I tell you about the black football coach I hired, and the extended contract I gave our women's basketball coach, and the female volleyball coach I hired, and the cuban basketball coach I hired.??  Yes outstanding, you're clearly a man of diverse visions.  



Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: sys on April 04, 2008, 03:01:11 PM
will krause &@#% up basketball?
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 04, 2008, 03:04:34 PM
will krause frack up basketball?

have you seen him @ bball games?

he makes me look tame.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catzacker on April 04, 2008, 03:07:12 PM
he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff

Excellent, hopefully he has got the Gary Barnett message. 

QFT.  Although I think that Krause was a guy that was smitten with Prince during the "interview" process. 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: sys on April 04, 2008, 03:11:26 PM
have you seen him @ bball games?

he makes me look tame.

what does he mostly cheer for?  which player was his scapegoat?
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2008, 03:16:53 PM
he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff

Excellent, hopefully he has got the Gary Barnett message. 

QFT.  Although I think that Krause was a guy that was smitten with Prince during the "interview" process. 

Greeeeaaaat...so he's a moron.  Well, as long as he knows what it takes to win the job can't take that much int.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on April 04, 2008, 07:01:49 PM
Why not just cut the bullcrap and appoint Wefald as both university president and athletic director?
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catdude33 on April 04, 2008, 08:39:53 PM
Having a good AD is really important.   The thing is, we've had 3 straight bean counters as our AD at K-State.   Timmy was probably the best bean counter of the 3, because he had a partial clue as to how big time athletics is operated these days, but he took an Emporia State approach to everything.   Timmy wasn't really all that passionate about K-State, that's why all the, "Tim Weiser lets other people have the glory" was such Bull$hit.  You don't go out and raise a bunch of money sending the pissants in to do the work, you've got to have a closer.   I think Bob Krause is more of the "closer" type, and based on what I hear, he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff than Timmy Weiser ever wanted to be. 

IMO I think we should just spend a ton of money and not worry about it.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: 2 Handed Finger Roll on April 04, 2008, 11:06:03 PM
he understands all to well that K-State is going to have to get a lot more aggressive on some stuff

Excellent, hopefully he has got the Gary Barnett message. 

QFT.  Although I think that Krause was a guy that was smitten with Prince during the "interview" process. 

I heard Bill Snyder was smitten and pushed the hiring of Prince.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Norm93 on April 04, 2008, 11:34:53 PM


Krause is already blowing up Emporia State Tim's "master" facilities plans.   Krause wants it to be much more ambitious.   



This is good to hear.  I've always wondered why the "front door" was always emphasized in the latest round of plans, but nothing was said about balancing out the project.  I envisioned the west side of Bramlage being updated, but the east side left alone.  Or, a lot of work being completed on the west side of the stadium, only to make the east side look like s#it. 

To me, if $70M is going to be spent, everything out to tie together and not be focused on just a "front door".  KSU has produced enough sports facility architects to make it all work. 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: cas on April 05, 2008, 10:10:44 AM
As long as he is somewhat eccentric I'm fine.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on April 05, 2008, 11:34:13 AM
As long as we conducted a thorough interview and search process, carefully considered many qualified candidates and chose the best man for the job based on his qualifications and an ability to dramatically change a university athletic department that has literally accepted, nay coddled, failure in almost every area, we should be sound as a pound.

KSU, don't call me and ask for any $$ until you take winning in the Big XII seriously.  I will give my money to the frat instead, at least they take getting wasted and banging tri delts seriously.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Rick Daris on April 05, 2008, 12:45:02 PM
As long as we conducted a thorough interview and search process, carefully considered many qualified candidates and chose the best man for the job based on his qualifications and an ability to dramatically change a university athletic department that has literally accepted, nay coddled, failure in almost every area, we should be sound as a pound.

KSU, don't call me and ask for any $$ until you take winning in the Big XII seriously.  I will give my money to the frat instead, at least they take getting wasted and banging tri delts seriously.

LOL, didn't you guys go dry.

dry fraternities  :flush:
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on April 05, 2008, 01:20:09 PM
As long as we conducted a thorough interview and search process, carefully considered many qualified candidates and chose the best man for the job based on his qualifications and an ability to dramatically change a university athletic department that has literally accepted, nay coddled, failure in almost every area, we should be sound as a pound.

KSU, don't call me and ask for any $$ until you take winning in the Big XII seriously.  I will give my money to the frat instead, at least they take getting wasted and banging tri delts seriously.

LOL, didn't you guys go dry.

dry fraternities  :flush:

We did but after I left.  It isn't really dry, we just had to get Lew Perkins-like sneaky.  Opaque cups and jungle juice.

BTW Rick, I'm getting married in about 5 hours.  Tell me not to do it or meet us out after, probably hitting the P&L. 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: rjd27 on April 05, 2008, 01:47:42 PM
From what I've read, Krause is AD in name only. Jim Epps is really running the show, he'll just need Krause's signature for a few big things. My take on this, is that Wefald rewarded Krause with the AD title for his years of service to K-State.
Now, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. As long as Krause and Epps see eye-to-eye on most things and have an understanding about where K-State athletics is headed or needs to be heading, then this can work. If not, or if these two start butting heads and disagreeing on the direction of the department, things will fall apart fast. Or, in the next year or two, when it's time to hire a new coach for either football or basketball or both, if they are not on the same page, things could get ugly.
In the short term, this move has a "final act" feeling to it. In five years, Krause (20+ years), Epps (30+ years) and Wefald (20+ years) could all decide to retire, then the University starts fresh, from the top down (this will be the most dangerous time for K-State, depending on who is hired).
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 05, 2008, 02:07:57 PM
The best AD that $15,000 could buy.  This hiring is a joke.  And not a funny one.

 :banghead:
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Rick Daris on April 05, 2008, 02:15:00 PM
As long as we conducted a thorough interview and search process, carefully considered many qualified candidates and chose the best man for the job based on his qualifications and an ability to dramatically change a university athletic department that has literally accepted, nay coddled, failure in almost every area, we should be sound as a pound.

KSU, don't call me and ask for any $$ until you take winning in the Big XII seriously.  I will give my money to the frat instead, at least they take getting wasted and banging tri delts seriously.

LOL, didn't you guys go dry.

dry fraternities  :flush:

We did but after I left.  It isn't really dry, we just had to get Lew Perkins-like sneaky.  Opaque cups and jungle juice.

BTW Rick, I'm getting married in about 5 hours.  Tell me not to do it or meet us out after, probably hitting the P&L. 

You should probably go ahead and do it, you're kind of old. Congrats.

BTW-I'm moving back to Manhattan as soon as my place in Lawrence sells.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2008, 02:23:20 PM
Well my first reaction was WTF!!  But I am hearing good things, lots of emphasis on "doing things right" in terms of our future facilities.   Look for the football stadium improvements to be more dramatic than what Emporia State Timmy wanted to do (Imagine the press box being 3x's larger than it is now, 2 full practice courts in the new basketball facility instead of 1 full court etc. etc.)
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Rick Daris on April 05, 2008, 02:42:23 PM
Well my first reaction was WTF!!  But I am hearing good things, lots of emphasis on "doing things right" in terms of our future facilities.   Look for the football stadium improvements to be more dramatic than what Emporia State Timmy wanted to do (Imagine the press box being 3x's larger than it is now, 2 full practice courts in the new basketball facility instead of 1 full court etc. etc.)

Will you get unbanned?
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Jesus Shuttlesworth on April 05, 2008, 03:09:14 PM
Well my first reaction was WTF!!  But I am hearing good things, lots of emphasis on "doing things right" in terms of our future facilities.   Look for the football stadium improvements to be more dramatic than what Emporia State Timmy wanted to do (Imagine the press box being 3x's larger than it is now, 2 full practice courts in the new basketball facility instead of 1 full court etc. etc.)

Wait a minute, are YOU Bob Krause?
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: ~WabashRoll~ on April 06, 2008, 09:13:33 AM
This is certainly an interesting hire.

And regardless of what some other story a certain fat and balding sports writer might be trying to sell, there really wasn't a list of candidates or any interview process whatsoever that took place.

People connected with the KSU Foundation have been talking about this for over a month now.  That's where those on this site that leaked the news a couple days ahead of the resignation were getting their info.  One of the primary reasons Weiser jumped ship was because of his disagreement over the path the football program is taking with Weiser and Krause.  At the time, people were saying there was a huge confrontation because Wefald and Krause basically came to him with a mandate to give Prince a contract extension.  Yes, as unbelievable as that sounds, a contract extension for a 12-13 coach in year two of a five year contract.  So, he quits and Wefald internally appoints Krause to take over the position.  This has all been in the making for quite some time now.

The big differences I see over Weiser; with Krause, you are going to get a guy that is actually genuinely passionate about K-State sports.  You're going to get a guy that isn't going to be as passive in regard to the in-state relationship with ku.  There aren't going to be any performance bonuses based on year end profit margins for the department.  If the capital should be invested, it's going to be.  He will be much more agressive in terms of facility upgrades and fund raising.  His connection to Vanier is going to channel a ton more money in to the athletics.

His management skills pretty much speak for itself.  He's run the university for Wefald for well over a decade now.  He's opinionated and outspoken.  He's got a lot of friends and enemies on both sides.  Fom what I know of the guy, he's pretty polarizing.

The big first challenge is going to come when they announce Prince's extension.

For the most part I'm pretty encouraged, but there certainly are major question marks looming.  We'll see how it works out. 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2008, 10:07:12 AM
I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: sys on April 06, 2008, 10:41:01 AM
This is certainly an interesting hire.....

sounds like an impending disaster.  hope bball survives.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Kat Kid on April 06, 2008, 10:47:10 AM
Vanier HATES Prince.  I think this has hilarious wag the dog potential with crazy old Jack threatening to cut off the Krause's inheritance (ala Billy Madison) and Krause capitulating, canning Prince and putting in some hours actually working instead of making endless trips to the coffee pot and filling his sketch book with scotch fueled afternoon noodling.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: ~WabashRoll~ on April 06, 2008, 10:57:31 AM
Vanier HATES Prince.  I think this has hilarious wag the dog potential with crazy old Jack threatening to cut off the Krause's inheritance (ala Billy Madison) and Krause capitulating, canning Prince and putting in some hours actually working instead of making endless trips to the coffee pot and filling his sketch book with scotch fueled afternoon noodling.

Well, Head AD John Wefald seems to think we've got the next Gary Pinkle on our hands, except for the proven D-1 track record, good recruiting, cohesive coaching staff, and positive signs of improvement.


Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: Kat Kid on April 06, 2008, 10:59:04 AM
Vanier HATES Prince.  I think this has hilarious wag the dog potential with crazy old Jack threatening to cut off the Krause's inheritance (ala Billy Madison) and Krause capitulating, canning Prince and putting in some hours actually working instead of making endless trips to the coffee pot and filling his sketch book with scotch fueled afternoon noodling.

Well, Head AD John Wefald seems to think we've got the next Gary Pinkle on our hands, except for the proven D-1 track record, good recruiting, cohesive coaching staff, and positive signs of improvement.




Wefald is gone in less than 3 years.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 06, 2008, 01:34:44 PM
I don't know who to believe.  :ohno: :ohno:
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: cas on April 06, 2008, 01:54:44 PM
This is certainly an interesting hire.....

sounds like an impending disaster.  hope bball survives.

QFT.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catzacker on April 06, 2008, 02:07:25 PM
I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.

The only way I'll meltdown is if they (the Admin) don't put clauses in it that make it easy/less costly to buy out. 

Krause is gone when Wefald is and if Ronald puts up two more seasons of crap then money will talk enough to get his happy ass out. 

My hope is that Krause decides to not play by the rules like Lew.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: ~WabashRoll~ on April 06, 2008, 02:16:05 PM
This is certainly an interesting hire.....

sounds like an impending disaster.  hope bball survives.

QFT.

Bball is going to be fine.  I'm actually not really worried about basketball in the slightest.

Word is Krause already wants to scrap Timmy's watered down, cheap skate one court basketball practice/training facility and do it the right way.  The financial comittment will be there.  

The decisions will be more controversial at times, but there isn't going to be the foot dragging and hyper-conservatism there was T-Dub.



Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: waks on April 07, 2008, 12:27:39 AM
I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.

The only way I'll meltdown is if they (the Admin) don't put clauses in it that make it easy/less costly to buy out. 

Krause is gone when Wefald is
and if Ronald puts up two more seasons of crap then money will talk enough to get his happy ass out. 

My hope is that Krause decides to not play by the rules like Lew.
This likely isn't true.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2008, 07:41:05 AM
I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.

The only way I'll meltdown is if they (the Admin) don't put clauses in it that make it easy/less costly to buy out. 

Krause is gone when Wefald is
and if Ronald puts up two more seasons of crap then money will talk enough to get his happy ass out. 

My hope is that Krause decides to not play by the rules like Lew.
This likely isn't true.

Why?
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2008, 07:46:28 AM
I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.

The only way I'll meltdown is if they (the Admin) don't put clauses in it that make it easy/less costly to buy out. 

Krause is gone when Wefald is
and if Ronald puts up two more seasons of crap then money will talk enough to get his happy ass out. 

My hope is that Krause decides to not play by the rules like Lew.
This likely isn't true.

Why?

Unless he wants to voluntarily go nobody is going to make him.  You don't bite the hand that feeds you (unless Vanier gives the blessing).
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: PurplePowerhouse on April 07, 2008, 08:27:42 AM
He kind'a looks like Captain Kangaroo.  Give him a bowl haircut and it's spot on.

(http://www.k-state.edu/media/mediaguide/mgphotos/krausebob.jpg)

(http://www.askjimmycarter.com/images/Captain%20Kangaroo.jpg)




Captain Kangaroo = Mongoloid
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2008, 08:42:59 AM
I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.

The only way I'll meltdown is if they (the Admin) don't put clauses in it that make it easy/less costly to buy out. 

Krause is gone when Wefald is
and if Ronald puts up two more seasons of crap then money will talk enough to get his happy ass out. 

My hope is that Krause decides to not play by the rules like Lew.
This likely isn't true.

Why?

Unless he wants to voluntarily go nobody is going to make him.  You don't bite the hand that feeds you (unless Vanier gives the blessing).

I kind of thought that was why they (him and Epps) took the position(s).  Just to be caretakers of it for a few years, get the facilities up and running and then when a new Pres gets names, gracefully exit stage left. 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: KSU4ME on April 07, 2008, 09:14:39 AM
Seems to me this split up of responsibilities pretty much gives Wefald free reign to do whatever he wants in the AD office.  Wefald has the puppet regime he's wanted for a long time.

For all the Weiser hate, let's not forget that he did do quite a bit to straighten up KSU's financials, hired Huggins, and had the good sense to keep Martin/Dalonte after Huggins bailed.

SSTH.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2008, 09:37:05 AM
The problem with the Tim Weiser way of doing things is that it's a tried and true formula to be middle of the road at best.   Tim Weiser was the eqivilant of Gen.  Bernard Montgomery.   Perfectly willing to push forward a little, fall back, regroup, let the enemy gain strength and then try it again.   As Patton told him, "Sorry Monty, I don't like paying for the same real estate twice."
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Post by: KSU4ME on April 07, 2008, 09:51:46 AM
I don't disagree at all, just pointing out that he did accomplish some very positive things during his stay.  It was time for him to go.

Prior to his arrival, I didn't feel like the AD was in a financial position to really pursue anything big.  Now I think it is.  While we can all whine about the FB coach, that is only a part of what the AD does.
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Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2008, 09:57:35 AM
The problem with the Wefald and the Boys is that it's like they have delusions of grand jure when it comes to hiring/firing of athletic coaches.  They all fell, ass backwards, into the Snyder hire, and then actually threw some money at football.  Yet they act now as if all they knew what they were doing the whole time and can replicate it at a moments notice and all of them take credit for the hire.  The "powerball hiring process" should be patented by Wefald and the Boys.  Also, does Hemingway at ku (or any other Univ Pres) get invovled in Lew's sh*t as much as Wefald does in Tim's or any KSU AD for that matter?    I guess Cincy's president did, that worked out well for Cincy basketball.  
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Post by: waks on April 07, 2008, 10:07:10 AM
I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.

The only way I'll meltdown is if they (the Admin) don't put clauses in it that make it easy/less costly to buy out. 

Krause is gone when Wefald is
and if Ronald puts up two more seasons of crap then money will talk enough to get his happy ass out. 

My hope is that Krause decides to not play by the rules like Lew.
This likely isn't true.

Why?
I thought you were insinuating that a new AD would come in with the new president. I'm not sure when Krause will retire from the AD position but I've been told that he wanted it pretty badly. I can't imagine that he would give it up after only three years or so.
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Post by: The Nasti on April 07, 2008, 10:13:32 AM
Question to ask yourself:

What other multi-million dollar enterprise would even consider hiring a guy with Krause's resume to be its CEO? 

I think it's an equal opportunity thing.  For years women have been screwing their way to the top, now we're giving a guy a chance to do the same thing. 

Jesus, we are the most diverse university in America...

- Black football coach, with white wife
- Handicapped Defensive Coordinator
- Cuban MBB coach, with black wife
- Assistant MBB coach is a black guy from DC who get DUI's in a BMW (very urban/hip-hop)
- Lesbian WBB coach, posing as a fundamentalist christian
- Sexually empowered Trophy-Husband AD
- President is from the white part of Minnesota

It's like a sitcom.




As if any part of Minnesota is not the White part.....
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2008, 10:24:33 AM
Here's the deal, either this thing is going to work out great, or it's going to crash and burn badly.   But at least we've got some visions or delusions, and not full steam ahead to mediocrity. 
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Post by: waks on April 07, 2008, 10:26:18 AM
Here's the deal, either this thing is going to work out great, or it's going to crash and burn badly.   But at least we've got some visions or delusions, and not full steam ahead to mediocrity. 
So remember that post you made a while back about the boardwalks and sh*t leading up to the stadium with escalators and the hall of fame? Is that back on now?
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Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2008, 10:41:38 AM
Here's the deal, either this thing is going to work out great, or it's going to crash and burn badly.   But at least we've got some visions or delusions, and not full steam ahead to mediocrity. 

imo, you just described our two coaches in our 2 major sports. 
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Post by: Jesus Shuttlesworth on April 07, 2008, 10:48:34 AM
Here's the deal, either this thing is going to work out great, or it's going to crash and burn badly.   But at least we've got some visions or delusions, and not full steam ahead to mediocrity. 

imo, you just described our two coaches in our 2 major sports. 

No kidding.  Why does every decision made by KSU lately fall under the category of "huge gamble"?  Maybe Kenny Rogers should have been hired as AD. 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on April 07, 2008, 01:36:35 PM
considering Krause is married to Vanier's daughter - he will more than likely be able to do anything he wants.  :banghead:
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Post by: Rick Daris on April 07, 2008, 02:17:18 PM
considering Krause is married to Vanier's daughter - he will more than likely be able to do anything he wants.  :banghead:

That may not be a bad thing. Dude really seems to like kstate sports.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2008, 03:46:57 PM
Look, we need somebody that's a little nutty, and who is emotional about K-State sports at the helm.   I just don't see this as a bad thing . . . look man, the guy rubs elbows with big money all the time.   

Can't you just see Thanksgiving Dinner next fall, "Dad, seriously, just sign the check, and I'll fill it in for you okay."
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Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2008, 03:59:07 PM
Look, we need somebody that's a little nutty, and who is emotional about K-State sports at the helm.   I just don't see this as a bad thing . . . look man, the guy rubs elbows with big money all the time.   

Can't you just see Thanksgiving Dinner next fall, "Dad, seriously, just sign the check, and I'll fill it in for you okay."

Oh.  I agree.  I'm just not sure of the set up with him and Epps.  They get a long, right?  Krause will get tested after/during this football season, should it go like last year (or worse). 
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: cireksu on April 07, 2008, 04:06:49 PM
weefer will be gone once the improvements are all done, he'll let the new pres pick the AD after he steps down.
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: kougar24 on April 07, 2008, 04:12:13 PM
What happened to that guy up in Illinois that was supposedly being groomed for the job?
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Post by: cireksu on April 07, 2008, 04:16:46 PM
What happened to that guy up in Illinois that was supposedly being groomed for the job?

I don't know but he had a wierd name.  would probably bring in Jank, I think they're at the same school.
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Post by: waks on April 07, 2008, 08:11:59 PM
weefer will be gone once the improvements are all done, he'll let the new pres pick the AD after he steps down.
This isn't true at all.
What happened to that guy up in Illinois that was supposedly being groomed for the job?
Seriously... Stop posting.
What happened to that guy up in Illinois that was supposedly being groomed for the job?
Zenger, AD at Illinois State turned the job down. Most guys wouldn't want to come into a job where they wouldn't even know who the new president will be in less than four years.
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Post by: waks on April 07, 2008, 08:13:53 PM
Look, we need somebody that's a little nutty, and who is emotional about K-State sports at the helm.   I just don't see this as a bad thing . . . look man, the guy rubs elbows with big money all the time.   

Can't you just see Thanksgiving Dinner next fall, "Dad, seriously, just sign the check, and I'll fill it in for you okay."
What I've heard is that he's extremely intelligent and charismatic and has great management skills. Concur?
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Post by: SuperSoulFighter on April 08, 2008, 12:18:32 AM
Great info here by Dax.

The rest of this thread makes for excellent comedy.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 08, 2008, 07:55:24 AM
We need a little gun slinger mentality to return to the AD's office . . . back in the early 1990's they realized they were going to have to start taking risks, borrow money, hit up big donors hard.   It's time for a return to that, there's no reason for K-State Athletics, a "non profit" to be showing $10 million in net revenue ( even in spite of those secret double knot spy "hidden costs") . . . this isn't a publicly traded corporation. 
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Post by: The Nasti on April 08, 2008, 09:44:59 AM
What happened to that guy up in Illinois that was supposedly being groomed for the job?

I don't know but he had a wierd name.  would probably bring in Jank, I think they're at the same school.


That man was dead to me as soon as he started collecting wages from the U of K... :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: AD named...
Post by: catzacker on May 20, 2009, 12:49:32 PM
This is certainly an interesting hire.....

sounds like an impending disaster.  hope bball survives.

i'm just going to think whatever sys thinks from now on.
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Post by: steve dave on May 20, 2009, 12:51:44 PM
I can't wait for the Prince extension meltdown.  Will be fun.

VICTORY! :gocho:
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 20, 2009, 12:53:09 PM
Bragger.

 :fiesta:
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Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on May 20, 2009, 01:04:33 PM
This hiring is a joke.  And not a funny one.

 :banghead:

Um, QFT.