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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: opcat on May 20, 2007, 12:37:26 PM
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They need to up the pressure on Blaine Gabbert.
I want to see NU qb meltdown II.
Please! :lol:
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Of course you do. Gabbert at Nebraska is in no way a good thing for KSU.
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Beck to NU was in no way a good thing for K-State
Oh wait, that was great for K-State
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Of course you do. Gabbert at Nebraska is in no way a good thing for KSU.
Gabbert is a poor man's Josh Freeman. You can have him.
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Freeman is turning out exactly how I thought he'd turn out. No coaching. No talent around him. Playing in an undisciplined program. Confidence busted because he was played too early and needed to mature first. By all accounts from your spring and spring game, he's going straight in reverse. You can have him.
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Yes. Spring games tell EVERYTHING.
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Freeman is turning out exactly how I thought he'd turn out....
....beat Texas, takes team expected to win zero conference games by you to a bowl(2nd in North), earns Big 12 offensive player of the week twice and national player of the week once, as a true freshman.
Yep, just as you expected him to be "pre about-face" on Cally.
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Freeman is a bigger, slower version of Jammal Lord. For every one great play he makes, he makes three dumber ones.
You would suspect since he's had a whole season in your system and a whole year in the program after enrolling early, that he'd not show such horrible mechanics and decision making during your spring. But then again, after hearing some of his "escapades" off the field, it doesn't surprise me. There's a very real possibility that, because of the program he's in, he's already peaked and reached his full potential.
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hearing some of his "escapades" off the field
you misread that. He didn't have "escapades" OFF THE FIELD...he drives an "escalade" because of what he can do ON THE FIELD. KSU promised him one when we got Ron his jobby job.
'skers never get it right.
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"Gabbert is a poor man's Josh Freeman. You can have him."
why would anyone with a brain try and compare 2 very different qb's. oh wait, I didn't check who authored that post
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hearing some of his "escapades" off the field
you misread that. He didn't have "escapades" OFF THE FIELD...he drives an "escalade" because of what he can do ON THE FIELD. KSU promised him one when we got Ron his jobby job.
'skers never get it right.
Way to ignore the point I made.
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Christ, he went 4-3 vs the big 12 as an 18 year old.
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why would anyone with a brain try and compare 2 very different qb's.
racist
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If Gabbert does back out, I hope he just leaves us with time to find another quarterback. That was the main thing that made me mad about Freeman: he backed out like a week before he was supposed to go to Lincoln, and we didn't have time to go find another quality quarterback. :nutkick:
I'm not too worried though. When they interviewed Gabbert on the radio after his commitment he specifically said, "I won't pull a Josh Freeman."
Besides, we have Witt and Lee too.
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I heard that Freeman committed to K-State initially but Ron told him to commit to Nebraska and then back out at the last minute just to screw them over. Prince really wanted to stick it to NU and put them in a fix. Rumor has it that Gabbert is doing the same thing he is just trying to be even more discreet about it. Take it for what it's worth but I heard this from a good source.
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Of course you do. Gabbert at Nebraska is in no way a good thing for KSU.
Well, it's not a good thing for our chances vs. NU, but it's better for us in the big picture. Rather have NU ahead of us than NU and MU.
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I heard that Freeman committed to K-State initially but Ron told him to commit to Nebraska and then back out at the last minute just to screw them over. Prince really wanted to stick it to NU and put them in a fix. Rumor has it that Gabbert is doing the same thing he is just trying to be even more discreet about it. Take it for what it's worth but I heard this from a good source.
I wasn't saying this at all. I was just acknowledging the fact that Freeman's decommitment came at the last minute and really made things difficult for our depth at that position.
If you weren't talking to me then nevermind. :)
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I heard that Freeman committed to K-State initially but Ron told him to commit to Nebraska and then back out at the last minute just to screw them over. Prince really wanted to stick it to NU and put them in a fix. Rumor has it that Gabbert is doing the same thing he is just trying to be even more discreet about it. Take it for what it's worth but I heard this from a good source.
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Whatever dude. Freeman had verballed to Nebraska in June before his senior year, before Bald Bull was even a twinkle in K State's eye. Prince didn't even enter the picture until what, December? Freeman was baited into playing for a black coach by Prince and promised the starting job as a freshman, which wasn't going to happen at Nebraska. As far as Gabbert, by all accounts he and his family are just a little bit more stable than Josh and Ron Prince. Missouri has moved on and is recruiting other QBs now and Gabbert immediately went to recruiting other players for Nebraska. As far as I know, Freeman never did anything like that while he was committed. He was friends with Meno Holt and tried to get Meno to look at K State but Meno told him in no uncertain terms to "f&&& off."
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I heard that Freeman committed to K-State initially but Ron told him to commit to Nebraska and then back out at the last minute just to screw them over. Prince really wanted to stick it to NU and put them in a fix. Rumor has it that Gabbert is doing the same thing he is just trying to be even more discreet about it. Take it for what it's worth but I heard this from a good source.
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Whatever dude. Freeman had verballed to Nebraska in June before his senior year, before Bald Bull was even a twinkle in K State's eye. Prince didn't even enter the picture until what, December? Freeman was baited into playing for a black coach by Prince and promised the starting job as a freshman, which wasn't going to happen at Nebraska. As far as Gabbert, by all accounts he and his family are just a little bit more stable than Josh and Ron Prince. Missouri has moved on and is recruiting other QBs now and Gabbert immediately went to recruiting other players for Nebraska. As far as I know, Freeman never did anything like that while he was committed. He was friends with Meno Holt and tried to get Meno to look at K State but Meno told him in no uncertain terms to "f&&& off."
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:nahnah:
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I heard that Freeman committed to K-State initially but Ron told him to commit to Nebraska and then back out at the last minute just to screw them over. Prince really wanted to stick it to NU and put them in a fix. Rumor has it that Gabbert is doing the same thing he is just trying to be even more discreet about it. Take it for what it's worth but I heard this from a good source.
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Whatever dude. Freeman had verballed to Nebraska in June before his senior year, before Bald Bull was even a twinkle in K State's eye. Prince didn't even enter the picture until what, December? Freeman was baited into playing for a black coach by Prince and promised the starting job as a freshman, which wasn't going to happen at Nebraska. As far as Gabbert, by all accounts he and his family are just a little bit more stable than Josh and Ron Prince. Missouri has moved on and is recruiting other QBs now and Gabbert immediately went to recruiting other players for Nebraska. As far as I know, Freeman never did anything like that while he was committed. He was friends with Meno Holt and tried to get Meno to look at K State but Meno told him in no uncertain terms to "f&&& off."
did you really respond to that one?
must be LFBIQ. Is the "more stability" in the Gabberts derived from Prince and Freeman being black? Do tell.
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I just don't see how another coach would make an inroad with Gabbert, other than maybe Missouri coaches playing the home-state loyalty card more.
Gabbert and his parents actually liked that he wasn't going to be "the man" from day one because we have depth. I never thought our solid depth would help us recruit him, but oddly enough it did. He wants time to develop, and he understands there is competition.
There are no guarantees in recruiting, but I just don't see Gabbert bailing on us.
I'm sorry you guys had to deal with bragging about him though. The quarterback you picked up from Colorado might end up being better. That's the weird thing about recruiting. You can't tell. I never thought our three star Witt was going to develop like he did.
Until Gabbert gets to Lincoln and shows me something awesome, I'm going to continue to assume our post-Keller future is with Lee and Witt. Gabbert might turn out to be as great as his hype, but we probably won't know for at least two or three years.
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the freemans instability comes from their lack of ethics and dishonesty. papa freeman basically sold his own son. I guess slavery isn't dead
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Gabbert and his parents actually liked that he wasn't going to be "the man" from day one because we have depth. I never thought our solid depth would help us recruit him, but oddly enough it did. He wants time to develop, and he understands there is competition.
I don't see too much QB depth at NU.
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I guess slavery isn't dead
This should get interesting. :blindfold:
I'm not going to stick around to watch though. Have a good night everyone.
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Gabbert and his parents actually liked that he wasn't going to be "the man" from day one because we have depth. I never thought our solid depth would help us recruit him, but oddly enough it did. He wants time to develop, and he understands there is competition.
I don't see too much QB depth at NU.
Lee, Witt, and Ganz. All three are developing/playing well. Gabbert walked into a situation where there is a really talented sophomore and a really talented freshman ahead of him.
We have depth problems at linebacker and tight end, but we are okay at qb right now.
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Nebraska is in great shape with their QB position for a very long time. Lee has four years to play three so he could redshirt this year. By 2008 Witt is really going to start to take off. And Ganz is serviceable enough to run the offense if needed. Then Gabbert is on the way in. Between those four, NU has depth and talent galore.
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Nebraska is in great shape with their QB position for a very long time. Lee has four years to play three so he could redshirt this year. By 2008 Witt is really going to start to take off. And Ganz is serviceable enough to run the offense if needed. Then Gabbert is on the way in. Between those four, NU has depth and talent galore.
and how do you know this? None of those players have set foot on a D1 field in live game action. None. QB is one of the toughest positions both to play and for coaches to assess w/ success. They could be busts or they could be great. You don't know, I don't know...quit pretending that you do.
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"and how do you know this? None of those players have set foot on a D1 field in live game action. None. QB is one of the toughest positions both to play and for coaches to assess w/ success. They could be busts or they could be great. You don't know, I don't know...quit pretending that you do."
how do we know arthur brown is any good then? how do we know gabbert is any good? easy. we trust the evaluations of coaches, scouts and other sources. When 1 kid has 0 offers and the other kid has 40. it's safe to say the 2nd kid is probaly better. as for our qb's. Sam keller is a legit, big time qb with big time experience. even with one year of elgability he had stoops, weiss and callahan as his final 3 choices of coaches who wanted him badly. i will take their opinions over any pathetic know nothing on the net, thats you hatter. as for zac lee. #1 juco qb in the nation with the stats to prove it. throw in witt who transfered from one state to another and in only one year at qb in texas was good enough to garner 8 schol offers. which is 8 more than your latest qb commit. lee has 4 years to play 3. witt has 5 to play 4 and so does gabbert. we are more set at qb than ksu who has the interception nad fumble machine and his slave trader father calling the shots
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"and how do you know this? None of those players have set foot on a D1 field in live game action. None. QB is one of the toughest positions both to play and for coaches to assess w/ success. They could be busts or they could be great. You don't know, I don't know...quit pretending that you do."
how do we know arthur brown is any good then? how do we know gabbert is any good? easy. we trust the evaluations of coaches, scouts and other sources. When 1 kid has 0 offers and the other kid has 40. it's safe to say the 2nd kid is probaly better. as for our qb's. Sam keller is a legit, big time qb with big time experience. even with one year of elgability he had stoops, weiss and callahan as his final 3 choices of coaches who wanted him badly. i will take their opinions over any pathetic know nothing on the net, thats you hatter. as for zac lee. #1 juco qb in the nation with the stats to prove it. throw in witt who transfered from one state to another and in only one year at qb in texas was good enough to garner 8 schol offers. which is 8 more than your latest qb commit. lee has 4 years to play 3. witt has 5 to play 4 and so does gabbert. we are more set at qb than ksu who has the interception nad fumble machine and his slave trader father calling the shots
"Crypt"
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S. Parker.. Are you sure you aren't a racist? Every other NU poster on this board is. :flush:
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S. Parker.. Are you sure you aren't a racist? Every other NU poster on this board is. :flush:
Racism is eventually going to die a natural death in this country I think because no one is going to be pure anything. I thought it was funny during the last national census when they were asking people what they were and people were like three different races.
It is frustrating how hard racism is holding on though. There are a lot of closet bigots out there.
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And what better place to express your bigotry than on an anonymous internet message board?
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And what better place to express your bigotry than on an anonymous internet message board?
Exactly.
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Josh Freeman and Ron Prince have something Callahan still doesn't have (and from the looks of things never will have): A win over a top tier program.
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Prince and Freeman also lost to Baylor. That's as poor a loss as the win over Texas is good. Sure would have been nice to have Colt McCoy injured when we played them. I'm guessing the NU vs Texas game would have gone just a little differently if Snead had been in.
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Prince and Freeman also lost to Baylor. That's as poor a loss as the win over Texas is good. Sure would have been nice to have Colt McCoy injured when we played them. I'm guessing the NU vs Texas game would have gone just a little differently if Snead had been in.
Maybe in your game it would have a difference if Snead was in there, but they still scored 42 points on us and we still won because we torched their defense (with Freeman at quaterback). That same Texas defense that the huskers could only put 20 on in Huskerland.
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Gabbert and his parents actually liked that he wasn't going to be "the man" from day one because we have depth. I never thought our solid depth would help us recruit him, but oddly enough it did. He wants time to develop, and he understands there is competition.
Sounds like a real losing attitude.
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Prince and Freeman also lost to Baylor. That's as poor a loss as the win over Texas is good. Sure would have been nice to have Colt McCoy injured when we played them. I'm guessing the NU vs Texas game would have gone just a little differently if Snead had been in.
Maybe in your game it would have a difference if Snead was in there, but they still scored 42 points on us and we still won because we torched their defense (with Freeman at quaterback). That same Texas defense that the huskers could only put 20 on in Huskerland.
However in the world did Nebraska beat Kansas State in Manhattan last year?
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Prince and Freeman also lost to Baylor. That's as poor a loss as the win over Texas is good. Sure would have been nice to have Colt McCoy injured when we played them. I'm guessing the NU vs Texas game would have gone just a little differently if Snead had been in.
Maybe in your game it would have a difference if Snead was in there, but they still scored 42 points on us and we still won because we torched their defense (with Freeman at quaterback). That same Texas defense that the huskers could only put 20 on in Huskerland.
However in the world did Nebraska beat Kansas State in Manhattan last year?
Freeman's 2nd career start.
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Prince and Freeman also lost to Baylor. That's as poor a loss as the win over Texas is good. Sure would have been nice to have Colt McCoy injured when we played them. I'm guessing the NU vs Texas game would have gone just a little differently if Snead had been in.
Maybe in your game it would have a difference if Snead was in there, but they still scored 42 points on us and we still won because we torched their defense (with Freeman at quaterback). That same Texas defense that the huskers could only put 20 on in Huskerland.
However in the world did Nebraska beat Kansas State in Manhattan last year?
It was apparently your coaches super bowl as it seems to be one of the most important wins to majority of your fans now. My how the times have changed.
How else can you explain Husker fans not being pissed about a 9-5 season?
NU goes 10-3 with a postseason victory... but.... we lost to KSU.... fire the coach!
NU goes 9-5 with a boring postseason loss.... But we beat KSU... ORDER RESTORED!!!!
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Prince and Freeman also lost to Baylor. That's as poor a loss as the win over Texas is good. Sure would have been nice to have Colt McCoy injured when we played them. I'm guessing the NU vs Texas game would have gone just a little differently if Snead had been in.
Maybe in your game it would have a difference if Snead was in there, but they still scored 42 points on us and we still won because we torched their defense (with Freeman at quaterback). That same Texas defense that the huskers could only put 20 on in Huskerland.
However in the world did Nebraska beat Kansas State in Manhattan last year?
It was apparently your coaches super bowl as it seems to be one of the most important wins to majority of your fans now. My how the times have changed.
How else can you explain Husker fans not being pissed about a 9-5 season?
NU goes 10-3 with a postseason victory... but.... we lost to KSU.... fire the coach!
NU goes 9-5 with a boring postseason loss.... But we beat KSU... ORDER RESTORED!!!!
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ORDER RESTORED = Highlight of season is an eighteen point win over a team with a freshman making his second career start. (A team which Nebraska's own fans had predicted to not win a single conference game.)
This ain't your older brother's Big Red. Hell, this ain't even the Nebraska that I watched in college.
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I heard that Freeman committed to K-State initially but Ron told him to commit to Nebraska and then back out at the last minute just to screw them over. Prince really wanted to stick it to NU and put them in a fix. Rumor has it that Gabbert is doing the same thing he is just trying to be even more discreet about it. Take it for what it's worth but I heard this from a good source.
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Whatever dude. Freeman had verballed to Nebraska in June before his senior year, before Bald Bull was even a twinkle in K State's eye. Prince didn't even enter the picture until what, December? Freeman was baited into playing for a black coach by Prince and promised the starting job as a freshman, which wasn't going to happen at Nebraska. As far as Gabbert, by all accounts he and his family are just a little bit more stable than Josh and Ron Prince. Missouri has moved on and is recruiting other QBs now and Gabbert immediately went to recruiting other players for Nebraska. As far as I know, Freeman never did anything like that while he was committed. He was friends with Meno Holt and tried to get Meno to look at K State but Meno told him in no uncertain terms to "f&&& off."
Freeman was being recruited by Prince when he was still OC at Virginia. Freeman liked Prince over Calli-pussy but wanted to be closer to home and committed to Nebraska. When Prince got Snyders job, Freeman pulled out of Nebraska. Therefore, your comment about Prince not being in the picture until December shows a low football iq.
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Gabbert and his parents actually liked that he wasn't going to be "the man" from day one because we have depth. I never thought our solid depth would help us recruit him, but oddly enough it did. He wants time to develop, and he understands there is competition.
Sounds like a real losing attitude.
How does him saying he wants to come in and compete sound like a "losing" attitude? I'd call it a mature attitude, and I was relieved to see it.
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I'm not too worried though. When they interviewed Gabbert on the radio after his commitment he specifically said, "I won't pull a Josh Freeman."
Besides, we have Witt and Lee too.
So, fax would work?
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I'm not too worried though. When they interviewed Gabbert on the radio after his commitment he specifically said, "I won't pull a Josh Freeman."
Besides, we have Witt and Lee too.
So, fax would work?
I took it more to mean his dad isn't looking for a job in politics. :nahnah:
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Josh Freeman and Ron Prince have something Callahan still doesn't have (and from the looks of things never will have): A win over a top tier program.
Is Michigan a top tier program? I wouldn't say they were a great team that year, but neither was Texas when we beat them this past season.
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Michigan was ranked 20th.
Texas was 4th.
Those two wins aren't even comparable.
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Michigan was ranked 20th.
Texas was 4th.
Those two wins aren't even comparable.
Texas finished the year with 3 losses. They were able to edge out 6-6 Iowa in the Alamo Bowl, so they kudos for that. Texas last year was better than Michigan in 2005, but if Michigan has to be considered a top tier program, and neither victory is something to talk smack about when other things are taken into consideration (losing to Baylor, losing big to Kansas, ect).
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No, we are talking about signature wins.
Prince has one. Callahan doesn't. Prince has been coach for one year, Cally three.
And both have their share of embarrassing losses. Cally: 70-10, 45-21, 40-15..etc..
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No, we are talking about signature wins.
Prince has one. Callahan doesn't. Prince has been coach for one year, Cally three.
I don't think a win against a 3 loss team who played most of the game without their QB should be KSU's/Prince's signature win. Sights have to be set higher than that. Callahan is 1-0 against Prince, and 2-1 against KSU.
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So you're saying NU beating KSU is a signature win??
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They need to up the pressure on Blaine Gabbert.
I want to see NU qb meltdown II.
Please! :lol:
I would rather see NU get him...I don't want to see Missouri get better (not that they would with out some changes out of Pinkle ...you know what I mean)
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So you're saying NU beating KSU is a signature win??
No where did I say, suggest nor imply that. Beating KSU is not a signature win.
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So you're saying NU beating KSU is a signature win??
No where did I say, suggest nor imply that. Beating KSU is not a signature win.
but, yet the winner of that game normally wins the north - it is an important win for both KSU and NU
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signature wins are great, but in ksu's case it wasn't a signature win because it didn't signafy anything other than they caught texas at a bad time and won a fluke of a game. KSU still lost to baylor and then got arse raped by rutgers. holy smokes that was pathetic. Texas wasn't that great last year and came within a few lucky bounces of losing atleast 3 more games.
now, as for callahan we have had signature wins. Wins that tell us something about where the program is headed. Beating ksu a couple years ago. Nebraska hadn't done that in like 3-4 years and the games those years were more like NU beatings than games. Callahan winning over KSU showed that the ship was righting itself. Probaly the biggest though was the bowl game vs michigan. they had lost 3 games I think, by less than 3 points each game, all to top ranked teams I believe and had suffered some major setbacks injury wise all year. when we got them they were all healthy but we were missing 2 starting lb's to injury for just that game. We were picked to lose by 20. douche bag ksu fans on this very board and the scout board were saying that mich was the best 3 loss team ever and they would beat us by 30. all of a sudden, we beat them and all of a sudden michigan sucks.
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You Huskers are delusional. It was a win over a top 5 team. It will always be remembered as a signature win. We've only had five of those since 2000 and for three of those years we were considered a top ten program. Callahan doesn't have a big win yet.
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Callahan doesn't have a big win yet.
No, he doesn't. Just a couple of heart-breaking near misses. :violin: I am still really happy with Callahan though. A lot of times he has improved us faster than I thought he would...like Texas Tech winning on a last second miracle the year after they beat us 70-10.
Congrats on the win over Texas last year. If any of you are dreading Auburn just remember the Texas win. I thought you would get hammered, and instead you won. :eek: Good work.
I am actually so sick of the South teams right now that I am happy whenever a North team beats them. I was cheering for you in that game. :woohoo:
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okay, I'll bite.
... Beating ksu a couple years ago. Nebraska hadn't done that in like 3-4 years and the games those years were more like NU beatings than games. Callahan winning over KSU showed that the ship was righting itself...
Beating KSU at home in one of our two biggest down seasons in 15 years... by two points... You consider this a signature win? You've fallen farther than any Nubb wants to admit. The ship wasn't righting itself in 05... you just weren't sinking as fast as everyone else.
..douche bag ksu fans on this very board and the scout board were saying that mich was the best 3 loss team ever and they would beat us by 30. all of a sudden, we beat them and all of a sudden michigan sucks.
Douche bag.... Michigan had 4 losses before they played you... They ended the season 7-5. So yeah... Michigan and UT were quite different.
Go ahead and believe that UT was a fluke... Everyone in america knows that you beating michigan was.... I mean, how can a team that beats a 4 LOSS Michigan team lose to ku by 25 pts? :jerkoff:
So if you're going to consider Michigan a signature win for you, you may as well consider Texas a signature win for us.
Anyone ever tell you that you have extremely low FBIQ? Calli still doesn't have a signature win. :sleep:
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"You Huskers are delusional. It was a win over a top 5 team. It will always be remembered as a signature win"
they didn't finish top 5 though did they? as for what you beleive, believe what you want. hell, you guys actually produced and sold a decade of dominance video. lol so it's pretty easy to see, you would believe anything you wanted to hear.
baylor almost beat texas, the golden gophers almost beat texas. and so did nu, and they never got lucky with taking their qb out in the start of a game.
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Beating Tech 70-10 could be considered a signature win....
Could be...
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baylor almost beat texas, the golden gophers almost beat texas. and so did nu, and they never got lucky with taking their qb out in the start of a game.
LOL at you comparing yourself to Baylor and the golden gophers!!!
It's okay though; if Nebraska could have taken out Colt so he couldn't stop you from scoring 45 points, You could have beat them too! :loly:
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"You Huskers are delusional. It was a win over a top 5 team. It will always be remembered as a signature win"
they didn't finish top 5 though did they? as for what you beleive, believe what you want. hell, you guys actually produced and sold a decade of dominance video. lol so it's pretty easy to see, you would believe anything you wanted to hear.
baylor almost beat texas, the golden gophers almost beat texas. and so did nu, and they never got lucky with taking their qb out in the start of a game.
They were ranked 4th when we played them. Their only loss was to Ohio State. They probably wouldn't have lost to Texas A&M had they not lost to us. Which would mean they would have been South Division champs and then, inevitably, Big XII champs. Colt McCoy plays offense. We scored 45 points on Texas (the most of any team all year). The Golden Gophers didn't play Texas this year and Baylor lost to them by thirty-two points. What the hell are you talking about?
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surprised we don't hear more ksu fans talking national title, now that they think they are a top 5 caliber team