Its going to get worse before it gets better

[ednksu]

Never, ever underestimate the collective stupidity of our fanbase. Ever.

...because the comparison is not as similar as you might think. Point #1 - FSU in Florida hotbed of football talent...Point #2 - KSU in Kansas, hotbed of wheat harvesting.  I still cannot see any reason that a realistic replacement for Bill would make anything better, so for now Bill remains and the limited donor funds keep flowing. Still concerned that forcing Bill out would eliminate some of that $$$. A tough situation all around.

[OK_Cat]

 

[ednksu]

condensed version for OK

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[0.42]

condensed version for OK

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[O-town Kat]

We're not recruiting the talent to sustain 8 wins seasons like FSU did. This will end for Bill as a performance issue.

[ednksu]

We're not recruiting the talent to sustain 8 wins seasons like FSU did. This will end for Bill as a performance issue.

brown bros and the like and bills schemes are enough to goo .500 to .750

[0.42]

We're not recruiting the talent to sustain 8 wins seasons like FSU did. This will end for Bill as a performance issue.

brown bros and the like and bills schemes are enough to goo .500 to .750

.750 is 9-3. I'd sell my left nut for 9-3. Bill will not go 9-3.

[ednksu]

We're not recruiting the talent to sustain 8 wins seasons like FSU did. This will end for Bill as a performance issue.

brown bros and the like and bills schemes are enough to goo .500 to .750

.750 is 9-3. I'd sell my left nut for 9-3. Bill will not go 9-3.

thats what I mean.  that will be the outliers proof that bill can still do a 2003 season. Will that get us into a con champ, probably not in the new big 12.  But it will be enough to keep him around.

[ednksu]

We're not recruiting the talent to sustain 8 wins seasons like FSU did. This will end for Bill as a performance issue.

it took FSU going from National Champs and dominating conference to 7/6 seasons to make changes.  What will it take for KSU to make changes?  Most of the Tucks will be too happy with that record in the new big 12.

[O-town Kat]

We are a middling 5-7 to 7-5 program. No better.  There are 4 seasons of evidence to prove it.

[steve dave]

Good right up ednksu

[yoga-like_abana]

I didn't read that, but from reading enough of your other posts I will guess that it was a dumbass theory.

[MadCat]

2009 Non-con: 2-2; B12: 4-4 (3-2 North)
2010 Non-con: 4-0; B12: 3-5 (2-3 North) + Bowl loss

Did we improve?  I think we were better at the beginning of 2010 than we were at the end.

[jdagg2003]

[Rams]

[Clevey 2 Times]

...because the comparison is not as similar as you might think. Point #1 - FSU in Florida hotbed of football talent...Point #2 - KSU in Kansas, hotbed of wheat harvesting.  I still cannot see any reason that a realistic replacement for Bill would make anything better, so for now Bill remains and the limited donor funds keep flowing. Still concerned that forcing Bill out would eliminate some of that $$$. A tough situation all around.

[0.42]

 

[ednksu]

this board could have been the best hope to actually start something and accelerate this debacle to its conclusion a year or two ahead of its current course.  Thanks to the number of high school douche bags who just want to jerk each other off and destroy threads that are actually trying to discuss the programs future we wont get anyhwere till rough ridin' Gopo or Kstfans takes the rough ridin' lead. 

But hey look at this awesome BBSing that is going on above and below this post!

[DQ12]

this board could have been the best hope to actually start something and accelerate this debacle to its conclusion a year or two ahead of its current course.  Thanks to the number of high school douche bags who just want to jerk each other off and destroy threads that are actually trying to discuss the programs future we wont get anyhwere till rough ridin' Gopo or Kstfans takes the rough ridin' lead. 

But hey look at this awesome BBSing that is going on above and below this post!

You should checkout the billboard thread.

[ednksu]

this board could have been the best hope to actually start something and accelerate this debacle to its conclusion a year or two ahead of its current course.  Thanks to the number of high school douche bags who just want to jerk each other off and destroy threads that are actually trying to discuss the programs future we wont get anyhwere till rough ridin' Gopo or Kstfans takes the rough ridin' lead. 

But hey look at this awesome BBSing that is going on above and below this post!

You should checkout the billboard thread.

if you have gotten here before the fucksticks came in you would have seen part of my post pertaining to those activities.  All that crap does is piss off the shirt tucks and slow things down until our record is face raping them on how bad we have become.

[0.42]

this board could have been the best hope to actually start something and accelerate this debacle to its conclusion a year or two ahead of its current course.  Thanks to the number of high school douche bags who just want to jerk each other off and destroy threads that are actually trying to discuss the programs future we wont get anyhwere till rough ridin' Gopo or Kstfans takes the rough ridin' lead. 

But hey look at this awesome BBSing that is going on above and below this post!

I have a feeling that post probably wasn't aimed at me, but if it was, all I said was that there's no way in hell Bill even goes 9-3 in an outlier year (and I would think that even most people here would get off of his nuts for a year or two if he did). I think the absolute best he could pull out at this point given his current course is 8-4, and that should've been this year with the Big 12 as weak as it was. But anyway, there is some decent discussion on how to attack this situation in the billboard thread like dlew said. You may wanna consider putting a condensed version of your OP in there to throw your idea in the ring.

]if you have gotten here before the fucksticks came in you would have seen part of my post pertaining to those activities.  All that crap does is piss off the shirt tucks and slow things down until our record is face raping them on how bad we have become.

Heinballz has some very good stuff regarding this point in the billboard thread.

[ednksu]

this board could have been the best hope to actually start something and accelerate this debacle to its conclusion a year or two ahead of its current course.  Thanks to the number of high school douche bags who just want to jerk each other off and destroy threads that are actually trying to discuss the programs future we wont get anyhwere till rough ridin' Gopo or Kstfans takes the rough ridin' lead. 

But hey look at this awesome BBSing that is going on above and below this post!

I have a feeling that post probably wasn't aimed at me, but if it was, all I said was that there's no way in hell Bill even goes 9-3 in an outlier year (and I would think that even most people here would get off of his nuts for a year or two if he did). I think the absolute best he could pull out at this point given his current course is 8-4, and that should've been this year with the Big 12 as weak as it was. But anyway, there is some decent discussion on how to attack this situation in the billboard thread like dlew said. You may wanna consider putting a condensed version of your OP in there to throw your idea in the ring.

]if you have gotten here before the fucksticks came in you would have seen part of my post pertaining to those activities.  All that crap does is piss off the shirt tucks and slow things down until our record is face raping them on how bad we have become.

Heinballz has some very good stuff regarding this point in the billboard thread.

No it wasn't you.  It was the others.

Post was about FSU and their coaching change that involved the EXACT SAME rough ridin' THING WE ARE GOING THROUGH (caps for others 42, not you).  It took a huge fall for their tucks to get their head out of their ass because dumbass high schoolers did stupid crap like for sale signs in Bobby Bowden's lawn instead of cancelling donations/young alumni ticket purchases and writing op-eds. 

[ednksu]

For Christ sake Meek has opened the rough ridin' door for a flood of op eds bitching about our situation!!!

[DQ12]

Gotcha, so what was it you proposed we do.  Rely strickly on young alumni and donations to slowly flicker out?

What can students do?

[ednksu]

Gotcha, so what was it you proposed we do.  Rely strickly on young alumni and donations to slowly flicker out?

What can students do?

for one, stop with the rough ridin' LHC Bill Snyder chants at basketball games

start talking to your parents about all the recruiting if they are donating members and push them to ask questions.

send letters to Currie telling him why donations are stopping

look I'm not rough ridin' delusional thinking they are going to change crap when one row from section 17 cancels donations when one tuck from section 5 donates just the same.  one row becomes two, two to three, three to half a section.