Author Topic: My biggest worry... (Read 6077 times)

Fuktard · « **on:** January 10, 2011, 08:48:57 PM »

I love Frank, and I love the way he coaches, but I have a huge concern that if we start to drop some games and become "mediocre" (if even for a season or two...it won't take long), Frank will go from a "great "fiery" coach that demands the best from his players and gets results" to some "crazy bad person that screams at kids". The media will dump all over him and I could see recruits shying away. It's the risk associated with his style, and it's a big one.

BigCat · « **Reply #1 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:56:40 PM »

Quote from: Fuktard on January 10, 2011, 08:48:57 PM

I love Frank, and I love the way he coaches, but I have a huge concern that if we start to drop some games and become "mediocre" (if even for a season or two...it won't take long), Frank will go from a "great "fiery" coach that demands the best from his players and gets results" to some "crazy bad person that screams at kids". The media will dump all over him and I could see recruits shying away. It's the risk associated with his style, and it's a big one.

It's already happened. Your worst fears have been realized.

Brock Landers · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2011, 11:05:33 AM »

I remember when Frank was hired, thinking that if the wins didn't follow it would be real easy for the media and our Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) fanbase to turn on him.

KSUTOMMY · « **Reply #3 on:** January 11, 2011, 11:28:55 AM »

verrrry similar to Huggie... I am not worried. Frank loves the unloveable and there are a LOT of unloveable roundball players. I am full 'tard over Frank.

Pett · « **Reply #4 on:** January 11, 2011, 12:11:38 PM »

Quote from: Brock Landers on January 11, 2011, 11:05:33 AM

I remember when Frank was hired, thinking that if the wins didn't follow it would be real easy for the media and our Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) fanbase to turn on him.

do you remember after he started 0-4 in the conference during his second season?

terrible. just terrible bashing.

sys · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2011, 12:39:08 PM »

the "i love frank, but i sure do hate everything about him" posters are warming themselves up.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2011, 12:47:08 PM »

I wish he would hurry up and land a 5* so I can tell the haters to stfu.

wabash909 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2011, 12:50:55 PM »

Is it okay if I say I love Frank but I mish Huggie's recruiting of good players?

Because, I'm pretty sure I've officially reached the point of no return on that one.

pissclams · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2011, 12:53:06 PM »

Quote from: sys on January 11, 2011, 12:39:08 PM

the "i love frank, but i sure do hate everything about him" posters are warming themselves up.

boom. another squawk outs himself on goEMAW.com. it's almost becoming a joke how often you squawks out yourselves and no one even has to do anything to get a squawk outing now a days. way different than it used to be when the squawks really didn't out themselves very much.

squawk chawlk chicken squawk.

Quote from: wabash909 on January 11, 2011, 12:50:55 PM

Is it okay if I say I love Frank but I mish Huggie's recruiting of good players?

Because, I'm pretty sure I've officially reached the point of no return on that one.

another squawk outs himself.

catzacker · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2011, 12:55:53 PM »

I can't wait to start really hating frank.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2011, 01:03:16 PM »

Quote from: catzacker on January 11, 2011, 12:55:53 PM

I can't wait to start really hating frank.

I can. It is going to mess me up big time. Like I will need counseling.

Time to tell Dr. Rosenstein we can put my fear of commitment on the back burner for a few sessions. Whole new ball of wax with the love/hate Frank.

catzacker · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2011, 01:07:00 PM »

Quote from: Limestone on January 11, 2011, 01:03:16 PM

Quote from: catzacker on January 11, 2011, 12:55:53 PM
I can't wait to start really hating frank.

I can. It is going to mess me up big time. Like I will need counseling.

Time to tell Dr. Rosenstein we can put my fear of commitment on the back burner for a few sessions. Whole new ball of wax with the love/hate Frank.

he's going to be gone in about 3-4 years anyway. either because he sucks or because he doesn't get along with the next ad after currie leaves. judging by frank's recruiting, i say the former.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2011, 01:10:13 PM »

Really disappointed in many on here . . . I just never expected many on this board to reach, "I'll love Frank no matter what . . . whatever Frank does or says is fine by me" levels so soon.

You are all witnessing the aftermath of the last 2 KSU Elite Eight runs happen right in front of your eyes and you don't know it . . . the only thing different is that K-State is paying 2 of the guys leading the plummet over $2 million a year.

This is the late 1980's all over again.

To borrow a phrase from my good and long time friend and trusted confidant CrustyMcMichiCat. . . Stars Matter.

K-State basketball is paying an assistant coach, a "pipeline guy" $450K plus a year, to apparently not recruit anybody anymore . . . I mean really, really?? That's K-StateO if there was ever K-StateO folks.

Got damn bunch of ball hangers on here.

steve dave · « **Reply #13 on:** January 11, 2011, 01:18:10 PM »

fwiw, if Frank loses a shitload of games I will hate the crap of him. If he wins a lot I'll like the crap out of him. Right now I'm just friends wtih the crap out of him.

sys · « **Reply #14 on:** January 11, 2011, 01:34:13 PM »

tully's sandwich blog entry today was fantastic.

slimz · « **Reply #15 on:** January 11, 2011, 02:15:52 PM »

Quote from: Fuktard on January 10, 2011, 08:48:57 PM

I love Frank, and I love the way he coaches, but I have a huge concern that if we start to drop some games and become "mediocre" (if even for a season or two...it won't take long), Frank will go from a "great "fiery" coach that demands the best from his players and gets results" to some "crazy bad person that screams at kids". The media will dump all over him and I could see recruits shying away. It's the risk associated with his style, and it's a big one.

In other words, if Frank starts losing, it's going to be even easier to fire him. Where's the cause for worry?

(P.S.: What recruits?)

Fuktard · « **Reply #16 on:** January 11, 2011, 02:16:55 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on January 11, 2011, 01:10:13 PM

Really disappointed in many on here . . . I just never expected many on this board to reach, "I'll love Frank no matter what . . . whatever Frank does or says is fine by me" levels so soon.

You are all witnessing the aftermath of the last 2 KSU Elite Eight runs happen right in front of your eyes and you don't know it . . . the only thing different is that K-State is paying 2 of the guys leading the plummet over $2 million a year.

This is the late 1980's all over again.

To borrow a phrase from my good and long time friend and trusted confidant CrustyMcMichiCat. . . Stars Matter.

K-State basketball is paying an assistant coach, a "pipeline guy" $450K plus a year, to apparently not recruit anybody anymore . . . I mean really, really?? That's K-StateO if there was ever K-StateO folks.

Got damn bunch of ball hangers on here.

Dax it's clear you are a CPA and I appreciate your attention to the financials, but as a CPA you are hamstrung by thoughts of cost cutting. It really reduces the quality of your bbs'ing.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #17 on:** January 11, 2011, 02:56:00 PM »

Quote from: sys on January 11, 2011, 01:34:13 PM

tully's sandwich blog entry today was fantastic.

"I'm asking for it"

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #18 on:** January 11, 2011, 03:12:04 PM »

Ftard . . . I don't want to cost cut anything. I just want the supremely paid Assistant coach to go out and start living up to his pay grade on the recruiting trail.

Fuktard · « **Reply #19 on:** January 11, 2011, 03:56:00 PM »

I get that Dax, I too am disappointed with Te's performance, but recruiting isn't a perfect science and i don't envy the task of trying to convince inner city kids to play bball in Manhattan, KS. There's bound to be a lot of failure...I'm staying patient.

kstatefreak42 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 11, 2011, 05:02:47 PM »

Quote from: Limestone on January 11, 2011, 12:47:08 PM

I wish he would hurry up and land a 5* so I can tell the haters to stfu.

This will never happen

Underdog Wildcat · « **Reply #21 on:** January 11, 2011, 05:18:33 PM »

Right now, a lot of our hopes and fears appear to be riding the Marcus Smart train.

Good luck to me and all of my KSU Cat brethren on that one.

doom · « **Reply #22 on:** January 11, 2011, 05:38:23 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on January 11, 2011, 01:10:13 PM

Really disappointed in many on here . . . I just never expected many on this board to reach, "I'll love Frank no matter what . . . whatever Frank does or says is fine by me" levels so soon.

You are all witnessing the aftermath of the last 2 KSU Elite Eight runs happen right in front of your eyes and you don't know it . . . the only thing different is that K-State is paying 2 of the guys leading the plummet over $2 million a year.

This is the late 1980's all over again.

To borrow a phrase from my good and long time friend and trusted confidant CrustyMcMichiCat. . . Stars Matter.

K-State basketball is paying an assistant coach, a "pipeline guy" $450K plus a year, to apparently not recruit anybody anymore . . . I mean really, really?? That's K-StateO if there was ever K-StateO folks.

Got damn bunch of ball hangers on here.

I agree on all the delonte needs to produce statements, but i have loved Frank unconditionally since the first day he was hired (when he officially saved our program from the dark abyss.)

Fuktard · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2011, 08:03:49 PM »

Quote from: doom on January 11, 2011, 05:38:23 PM

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on January 11, 2011, 01:10:13 PM
Really disappointed in many on here . . . I just never expected many on this board to reach, "I'll love Frank no matter what . . . whatever Frank does or says is fine by me" levels so soon.

You are all witnessing the aftermath of the last 2 KSU Elite Eight runs happen right in front of your eyes and you don't know it . . . the only thing different is that K-State is paying 2 of the guys leading the plummet over $2 million a year.

This is the late 1980's all over again.

To borrow a phrase from my good and long time friend and trusted confidant CrustyMcMichiCat. . . Stars Matter.

K-State basketball is paying an assistant coach, a "pipeline guy" $450K plus a year, to apparently not recruit anybody anymore . . . I mean really, really?? That's K-StateO if there was ever K-StateO folks.

Got damn bunch of ball hangers on here.

I agree on all the delonte needs to produce statements, but i have loved Frank unconditionally since the first day he was hired (when he officially saved our program from the dark abyss.)

This. The biggest problem is that we had some success and now we have a bunch of entitled bitches that will be happy with nothing less than 5* recruits and Final Fours. Most 5* recruits have their pick of which school they want to go to, why the hell would they choose KSU? The reality is that we MUST look for the right "fit" becasue 5* kids aren't lining up for a chance to play in the OOD. That's not defeatist, that's fuckin reality.

michigancat · « **Reply #24 on:** January 11, 2011, 08:10:24 PM »

My biggest worry is a nuclear holocaust.