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« on: December 23, 2010, 12:32:35 AM »
Best defensive rating in kenpom history for KSU.



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Re: 85.9
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2010, 07:39:51 AM »
dax?

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2010, 07:50:34 AM »
His formula must not include points given up on backdoor cuts
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Re: 85.9
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2010, 08:35:20 AM »
just proves that kenpom is an idiot.

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2010, 09:10:36 AM »
dax?

Stats are meaningless when you have things like backdoor cuts that are easy for the casual fan (i.e. dax) to identify and whine about.

We're getting absolutely gashed by backdoor cuts! How can we expect to outscore anyone when we're giving up so many easy buckets???

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2010, 09:13:32 AM »
just proves that kenpom is an idiot.

don't anger ken.  he's already pissed at us and you've seen what's happened.

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2010, 09:27:29 AM »
just proves that kenpom is an idiot.

don't anger ken.  he's already pissed at us and you've seen what's happened.

yeah, kenpom's early nailing of the 2010 KSU Cats validates his stats if anything

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2010, 09:29:10 AM »
He clearly has no place in his formula for easy buckets.

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2010, 09:35:15 AM »
just proves that kenpom is an idiot.

don't anger ken.  he's already pissed at us and you've seen what's happened.

yeah, kenpom's early nailing of the 2010 KSU Cats validates his stats if anything

I wish we could disagree with Ken, but he is always right.

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2010, 10:07:46 AM »
just proves that kenpom is an idiot.

don't anger ken.  he's already pissed at us and you've seen what's happened.

yeah, kenpom's early nailing of the 2010 KSU Cats validates his stats if anything

I wish we could disagree with Ken, but he is always right.

Except when I use him to bet on games.

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2010, 10:11:15 AM »
But, but didn't Duke, and Florida and UNLV understand when they were collecting those 10-14 easy points in the game that KSU has the best stats eva from Ken Pom??

Nothing proves the greatness of the defense first, junkyard cat mentality than 10-12 easy points off the most basic play in basketball.

In game realities be damned, the stats shall prevail!!


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Re: 85.9
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2010, 10:11:52 AM »
But, but didn't Duke, and Florida and UNLV understand when they were collecting those 10-14 easy points in the game that KSU has the best stats eva from Ken Pom??

Nothing proves the greatness of the defense first, junkyard cat mentality than 10-12 easy points off the most basic play in basketball.

In game realities be damned, the stats shall prevail!!

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2010, 10:15:04 AM »
Oh look, another failure to recognize and recover in defensive transition . . . but look at those KenPom stats kids!!


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Re: 85.9
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2010, 10:27:02 AM »
i'm with dax on this one,  imagine how great our ranking would be if we didn't give up the easy points. i'll tell you- it would be even better. some of you powermc's are too obtuse.


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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2010, 12:29:27 PM »
i'm with dax on this one,  imagine how great our ranking would be if we didn't give up the easy points. i'll tell you- it would be even better. some of you powermc's are too obtuse.

Imagine how ridiculous our ranking would be if we never gave up any points, ever! JFC, we would be unstoppable.

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2010, 12:48:27 PM »
8-8.   :cry:
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Re: 85.9
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2010, 01:05:43 PM »
Let's take a stand, and stop back door cuts once and for all.

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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2010, 01:11:37 PM »
Let's take a stand, and stop back door cuts once and for all.
  Should we get snipers and if there seems to be an open backdoor we shoot them?  I'm in for this.

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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2010, 01:15:30 PM »
Let's take a stand, and stop back door cuts once and for all.
  Should we get snipers and if there seems to be an open backdoor we shoot them?  I'm in for this.

Whatever it takes. They are clearly tearing our team and our fanbase apart.

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2010, 01:22:39 PM »
Oh look, another failure to recognize and recover in defensive transition . . . but look at those KenPom stats kids!!




FL transition was terrible. UNLV was solid, just too many easy ones in the half court,  especially in the stretch where they took the lead back. Still held them to one of their worst shooting performances since Lon has been there.

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2010, 01:32:52 PM »
Oh look, another failure to recognize and recover in defensive transition . . . but look at those KenPom stats kids!!




FL transition was terrible. UNLV was solid, just too many easy ones in the half court,  especially in the stretch where they took the lead back. Still held them to one of their worst shooting performances since Lon has been there.

False! Stats lie bro; UNLV totally shot us out of the gym. It's all about the eye test, momentum, faerie dust, the basketball gods, etc.

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2010, 01:34:22 PM »
If there is a world where people just accept back door cuts, that's a world I don't want to live in.

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Re: 85.9
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2010, 01:47:10 PM »
Kougs is already sewing a KenPom Defensive Efficiency Banner . . . just get out of the way and let KougsBetsyRoss work.

Let's review.  Nothing says Junkyard Cats, Defense First like:

1.  8-12 easy points to the opposition a game, particularly at critical junctures when K-State can't shoot for $hit.

2.  Taking the rock hard to the goal and/or pushing the ball, getting fouled and then sending a parade of guys to the line who shoot less than 60%.








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Re: 85.9
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2010, 01:51:51 PM »
Kougs is already sewing a KenPom Defensive Efficiency Banner . . . just get out of the way and let KougsBetsyRoss work.

Let's review.  Nothing says Junkyard Cats, Defense First like:

1.  8-12 easy points to the opposition a game, particularly at critical junctures when K-State can't shoot for $hit.

2.  Taking the rock hard to the goal and/or pushing the ball, getting fouled and then sending a parade of guys to the line who shoot less than 60%.











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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2010, 01:52:34 PM »
Kougs is already sewing a KenPom Defensive Efficiency Banner . . . just get out of the way and let KougsBetsyRoss work.

Let's review.  Nothing says Junkyard Cats, Defense First like:

1.  8-12 easy points to the opposition a game, particularly at critical junctures when K-State can't shoot for $hit.

2.  Taking the rock hard to the goal and/or pushing the ball, getting fouled and then sending a parade of guys to the line who shoot less than 60%.






It's like the problem is right in front of your face, and you're pushing it out of the way so you can focus on backdoor cuts.