Free Throws

[sonofdaxjones]

332 Grambling 6 1-5 79 145 54.5
333 Kansas St. 6 5-1 75 141 53.2
334 St. Peter's 5 2-3 44 91 48.4

[Harry Dunne]

332 Grambling 6 1-5 79 145 54.5
333 Kansas St. 6 5-1 75 141 53.2
334 St. Peter's 5 2-3 44 91 48.4

correction:

347   Kansas State   85   162   .525
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/team/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/count/321

DEAD MOTHAFUCKIN LAST!

[sys]

do free throws attract stupidity, or are stupid people attracted to free throws?

[kso_FAN]

do free throws attract stupidity, or are stupid people attracted to free throws?

Both.

[WillieWatanabe]

[pissclams]

Guys- great job taking a sport and turning it into a math competition!  :nerds:

frank loves math, he used to teach it, you know.  he knew this thread would start up if he had the team suck at free throws and wanted goEMAW bbs'n to remain at an elite level.

[slimz]

do free throws attract stupidity, or are stupid people attracted to free throws?

It's one of the most accessible "plays" in sports for the average person.  Since they can hit 7-10 in their driveway, they think anyone should be able to, in any situation.

Next time someone throws that one up, I'm going to tell them to get all their neighbors together in their driveway, then promise each of their neighbors $10 per missed free throw, then run around their block as fast as they can, then shoot a 1 & 1 and see how they do.

[EMAWzified]

I'm down with this but have some concerns that all the analysis aside FTs aren't distributed evenly throughout the game and that other teams can influence that distribution in crunch time. We were OK at end games last year because Denis and Jake owned the ball and got to the line. Need others players to help Jake in that role this year. Obvious candidates are McGruder, Spradling and Irving. Right now, I don't have a lot of confidence in two of those players.

[nicname]

Quick bit of info about nicname.  I missed 12 FT's in a row during freshman basketball game action as a member of the MHS Lions JV/Freshman bball squad.  

[kso_FAN]

I'm down with this but have some concerns that all the analysis aside FTs aren't distributed evenly throughout the game and that other teams can influence that distribution in crunch time. We were OK at end games last year because Denis and Jake owned the ball and got to the line. Need others players to help Jake in that role this year. Obvious candidates are McGruder, Spradling and Irving. Right now, I don't have a lot of confidence in two of those players.

McGruder and Irving will both end up much better than they are shooting now; I'd guess both will be around 70% from the line for the season.

[sonofdaxjones]

Nothing brings out the hypersensitive goemawtards and the "everything will be okay . . . whatever Frank says is fine by me" suck dicks like pointing out how badly K-State shoots FT's.   In between rubbing it out over the latest K-State Basketball poster, you clutch your little emawtard dolls tight and pray to the flying spaghetti monster that FT shooting doesn't cost K-State a huge game this year.

[Kat Kid]

Nothing brings out the hypersensitive goemawtards and the "everything will be okay . . . whatever Frank says is fine by me" suck dicks like pointing out how badly K-State shoots FT's.   In between rubbing it out over the latest K-State Basketball poster, you clutch your little emawtard dolls tight and pray to the flying spaghetti monster that FT shooting doesn't cost K-State a huge game this year.

no.  it might.  like it really could a problem as is.  But #1 it is not kstate's biggest problem  #2 it is not any team's biggest problem and #3 I am almost certain that it gets better.  If kstate is not shooting 60-65% by early Conference season with % of points from ft not at least 20% then you will be right.

[sonofdaxjones]

It started out bad last year and it got better . . . however this year it has started out woeful, and "better" for this team at this juncture is just slightly above extremely mediocre.  With the whistle happy Big 12 refs on the horizon K-State had better get to extremely mediocre pretty fast.    Right now, many of the guys on the team look absolutely terrified at the FT line, they're not rimming out, they're clanks.

[Kat Kid]

It started out bad last year and it got better . . . however this year it has started out woeful, and "better" for this team at this juncture is just slightly above extremely mediocre.  With the whistle happy Big 12 refs on the horizon K-State had better get to extremely mediocre pretty fast.    Right now, many of the guys on the team look absolutely terrified at the FT line, they're not rimming out, they're clanks.

take that filth to big 12 warzone.

[T42YS]

<-----------Would rather be last in the nation in FT's than run defense
<-----------Is rough ridin' stupid

[WillieWatanabe]

Nothing brings out the hypersensitive goemawtards and the "everything will be okay . . . whatever Frank says is fine by me" suck dicks like pointing out how badly K-State shoots FT's.   In between rubbing it out over the latest K-State Basketball poster, you clutch your little emawtard dolls tight and pray to the flying spaghetti monster that FT shooting doesn't cost K-State a huge game this year.

It started out bad last year and it got better . . . however this year it has started out woeful, and "better" for this team at this juncture is just slightly above extremely mediocre.  With the whistle happy Big 12 refs on the horizon K-State had better get to extremely mediocre pretty fast.    Right now, many of the guys on the team look absolutely terrified at the FT line, they're not rimming out, they're clanks.

 

[sys]

2, 6, 3, 4, 5.  numbers of teams that shot under 60% in each of the last 5 years.

[sonofdaxjones]

2, 6, 3, 4, 5.  numbers of teams that shot under 60% in each of the last 5 years.

Right now our "Bigs" are shooting a combined 43% from the line.    The only one close to 60% is JaSam.

[Clevey 2 Times]

do free throws attract stupidity, or are stupid people attracted to free throws?

I have to vote the latter. For an untrained basketball eye its one of the first parts of the action you can understand. There are no moving parts, like running an offense in the half court. You can focus on the shooter exclusively.

Plus, old white guys who could never play above the rim can blather on about how well Gene Keady or Ernie Barrett could shoot from the line and how a Tex Winter led team would never have shot this poorly. Or they can bitch about how they could shoot 70%, which I tend to think is just an overstatement of their abilities.

[EMAWzified]

Old farts would know Gene Keady played football at K-State.

[bakerman]

Last night on Sports Center, they said that Duke shot 45% from the free throw line for the year.

LOL at you tards thinking us shooting poorly from the line wasn't the plan all along....

[Clevey 2 Times]

Old farts would know Gene Keady played football at K-State.

Yes, you're right about this one.

[kso_FAN]

Wasn't worthy of a new thread, but worthy of a mention.

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=676

About halfway down Gasaway talks free throw shooting. And includes this chart which records the overall FT% of NCAA teams from 1948 until now.

But the serene knowledge that I could travel back in time to the Truman administration and kick my similarly-aged grandfather’s butt in a free throw contest has always made me provisionally skeptical of laments that things aren’t like they were in the good old days.