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Offline dietpepsi

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HBBIQ needed
« on: November 24, 2010, 12:09:24 AM »
Could someone tell me why Jake played so bad? Like for real.


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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 12:10:32 AM »
:star::star::star: vs. :star::star::star::star::star:

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 12:10:58 AM »
Nolan is in his head.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 12:11:16 AM »
Duke is really rough ridin'  good :dunno:

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2010, 12:11:54 AM »
:star: :star: :star: vs. :star: :star: :star::star: :star:

This. Speed vs. Less Speed. End of story.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2010, 12:12:06 AM »
Good pressure, similar to Butler and shots didn't fall initially so he shut down.  

On his defensive play I agree with rusty.
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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2010, 12:12:21 AM »
1. He's just not as good as Irving.
2. Just played a game yesterday.
3. Frank played him too many minutes and he loafed around because he was tired.
4. Off night shooting.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2010, 12:12:51 AM »

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2010, 12:15:08 AM »
Irving's faster, quicker. But really can't explain why his handles were so off-the-charts bad tonight. Head wasn't in the game.
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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2010, 12:15:46 AM »
remember when some people were worried about Jake leaving early last year. lol

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2010, 12:16:14 AM »
Didn't adjust his defense to force the kid who wants to drive to shoot the ball.  That's it.


Oh and he played like a little bitch.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2010, 12:16:37 AM »
:star::star::star: vs. :star::star::star::star::star:

Nailed it.

This is why Irving will play in the NBA, and Jake will be playing in Europe after having a cup of coffee in the league.

I think Jake's a great college player, but he's an off-guard.  Irving was just on another level, and it showed.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2010, 12:17:59 AM »
Didn't adjust his defense to force the kid who wants to drive to shoot the ball.  That's it.


Oh and he played like a little bitch.

Frank wants him to pressure, so that's what he tried to do. He's simply not fast enough to keep perhaps the fastest pg in America in front of him. End of story.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2010, 12:19:33 AM »
remember when some people were worried about Jake leaving early last year. lol

Of course.  His stock was much better after last season than it will be after this one imo.
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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 12:19:50 AM »
:star: :star: :star: vs. :star: :star: :star::star: :star:

This. Speed vs. Less Speed. End of story.

+length

Duke's players were impressively quicker than K-State's, more coordinated, and played smarter.
 
Led to a lot of forced and unforced turnovers and poor defense.

Pretty simple, really.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2010, 12:20:28 AM »
Didn't adjust his defense to force the kid who wants to drive to shoot the ball.  That's it.


Oh and he played like a little bitch.

Frank wants him to pressure, so that's what he tried to do. He's simply not fast enough to keep perhaps the fastest pg in America in front of him. End of story.

I know what Frank wants him to do, and tonight it was a poor strategy.  The kid showed no desire to shoot or rack up assists.  Make him shoot it or pass it.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2010, 12:21:24 AM »
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Frank wants him to pressure, so that's what he tried to do. He's simply not fast enough to keep perhaps the fastest pg in America in front of him. End of story.
Really shouldn't have been asked to. But that's Frank and Huggins before him.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2010, 12:29:14 AM »
Great point on the pressure being Frank's gameplanning.  It is times like this where Frank needs to be a little more flexible, it cost us this game in more ways than one.

1.  It was obviously a losing proposition.

2.  It really looked like it demoralized Jake.

The game might have been vastly different if Frank had told Jake to sag a bit and force Irving to shoot the J or pass.  I think he would have had more confidence on offense and we wouldn't have suffered so much on their drives.

K did a brilliant job of creating driving lanes by spreading the Duke players out all over the floor.
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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2010, 12:34:35 AM »
Didn't adjust his defense to force the kid who wants to drive to shoot the ball.  That's it.


Oh and he played like a little bitch.

Frank wants him to pressure, so that's what he tried to do. He's simply not fast enough to keep perhaps the fastest pg in America in front of him. End of story.

I know what Frank wants him to do, and tonight it was a poor strategy.

I agree. Frank's stubborn and he's gonna do what he wants to do, though.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2010, 12:35:11 AM »
Duke=well coached,disciplined,spradling like brains, 5 star athletes

it's a decent strategy for national championships and the like.
it’s not like I’m tired of WINNING, but dude, let me catch my breath.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2010, 12:35:56 AM »
Honestly, Frank fed Jake to the dogs tonight.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2010, 12:39:39 AM »
Honestly, Frank fed Jake to the dogs tonight.

Intentional?

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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2010, 12:42:31 AM »
Honestly, Frank fed Jake to the dogs tonight.

Intentional?

Would be an awesome talking point. Frank had a master plan to make Jake pressure a clearly faster opponent to show him he's not as good as he thinks he is and motivate him to reach a higher level never before possible.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2010, 12:43:24 AM »
Honestly, Frank fed Jake to the dogs tonight.

Intentional?

Would be an awesome talking point. Frank had a master plan to put Jake on a clearly faster opponent to show him he's not as good as he thinks he is and motivate him to reach a higher level never before possible.


More likely he's just really rough ridin' stubborn.

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Re: HBBIQ needed
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2010, 12:45:02 AM »
This