Author Topic: The Royals (Read 4690787 times)

mocat · « **Reply #68700 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:26:12 AM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 13, 2017, 08:44:53 AM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 13, 2017, 08:42:21 AM
Which is worse; our bullpen or our offense? Its hard to choose between the two.

Orlando is proving he's not an everyday level MLB player

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #68701 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:27:45 AM »

mocat this is the Royals thread. you want hahas you go to the taco'ing jokes thread pal. we're in serious trouble here and you're just yucking it up oh haha lol.

smh.

mocat · « **Reply #68702 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:30:40 AM »

this is about his ears isn't it

kso_FAN · « **Reply #68703 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:33:11 AM »

Quote from: mocat on April 13, 2017, 09:30:40 AM

this is about his ears isn't it

.125/.192/.317 is kind of bad, but sample size I suppose.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #68704 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:33:50 AM »

also the way he two hand catches flyballs with his right hand squeezing the back of the web of the glove. oh and that he sucks at hitting

kso_FAN · « **Reply #68705 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:34:59 AM »

I mean, Paulo is hitting better than Moss, so he's got that.

Oh yeah, is it bad when your DH is .050/.240/.200?

Asking for a friend.

mocat · « **Reply #68706 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:38:20 AM »

6 players (7 if you count cuthbert) in the starting lineup are hitting under .200 guys

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #68707 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:38:42 AM »

Royals gonna be hammering promo nights hard. Good giveaways and great seat availability in the near future!

#foreverRoyal

mocat · « **Reply #68708 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:38:54 AM »

but yeah, the bullpen gave up some runs too or whatever

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #68709 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:43:16 AM »

totally dax! can you believe they are trying to sell tickets? man how small timey.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #68710 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:47:24 AM »

Quote from: mocat on April 13, 2017, 09:38:20 AM

6 players (7 if you count cuthbert) in the starting lineup are hitting under .200 guys

I know.

But 23 runs & walks in 26 innings is amazingly bad bullpen pitching. I know we are spoiled or whatever, but by any standard that is pathetic.

But yeah, by any standard our hitting and offense is also pathetic.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #68711 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:51:00 AM »

at least by any standards LoCain's smile after he beats out an infield single is still top of the charts.

WildcatNkilt · « **Reply #68712 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:54:15 AM »

If the guys keep playing like this we might be able to resign them all.

AppleJack · « **Reply #68713 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:55:29 AM »

The worst part about this is we've done an awful job of backfilling for the "departure". ZERO prospects in the top 100, in any publication.

I've already shifted my focus to the development of Mondesi and Soler this season.

Trade Hos, Cain, Moose, Vargas, anyone else on an expiring contract. Get highest upside available, regardless of age. Draft in the top 10 for 2-3 seasons. Throw your payrolls savings on international free agents. Take your lumps, win another world series. Profit?

kso_FAN · « **Reply #68714 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:55:42 AM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 13, 2017, 09:51:00 AM

at least by any standards LoCain's smile after he beats out an infield single is still top of the charts.

Yes. BSIBB (best smile in baseball)

kso_FAN · « **Reply #68715 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:56:54 AM »

Quote from: AppleJack on April 13, 2017, 09:55:29 AM

The worst part about this is we've done an awful job of backfilling for the "departure". ZERO prospects in the top 100, in any publication.

I've already shifted my focus to the development of Mondesi and Soler this season.

Trade Hos, Cain, Moose, Vargas, anyone else on an expiring contract. Get highest upside available, regardless of age. Draft in the top 10 for 2-3 seasons. Throw your payrolls savings on international free agents. Take your lumps, win another world series. Profit?

I'm sure we'll have a huge sale in July if this continues. We have plenty of pieces to trade.

I still (mostly) trust Dayton. I appreciated that they spent money and still wanted to try to win this year.

AppleJack · « **Reply #68716 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:03:02 AM »

I think there is a very real chance we don't trade anyone and just take our draft pick compensation. Everything I've read from Dayton says they very much value wins. Bottoming out doesn't seem to be a part of his DNA.

Also, those dudes need to produce this year if they're getting the $50m+ contract required to get the compensation.

If that is their preference hopefully the 2018 draft class is loaded.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #68717 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:06:43 AM »

Quote from: AppleJack on April 13, 2017, 10:03:02 AM

I think there is a very real chance we don't trade anyone and just take our draft pick compensation. Everything I've read from Dayton says they very much value wins. Bottoming out doesn't seem to be a part of his DNA.

Also, those dudes need to produce this year if they're getting the $50m+ contract required to get the compensation.

If that is their preference hopefully the 2018 draft class is loaded.

no way. if we're 15 games out in July we will trade at least 2, maybe 3 of Vargas, Escobar, Moose, Hosmer, Cain, possibly Cuthbert. Also we might try and trade Colon for a small diet coke with no ice.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #68718 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:09:11 AM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 13, 2017, 10:06:43 AM

Quote from: AppleJack on April 13, 2017, 10:03:02 AM
I think there is a very real chance we don't trade anyone and just take our draft pick compensation. Everything I've read from Dayton says they very much value wins. Bottoming out doesn't seem to be a part of his DNA.

Also, those dudes need to produce this year if they're getting the $50m+ contract required to get the compensation.

If that is their preference hopefully the 2018 draft class is loaded.

no way. if we're 15 games out in July we will trade at least 2, maybe 3 of Vargas, Escobar, Moose, Hosmer, Cain, possibly Cuthbert. Also we might try and trade Colon for a small diet coke with no ice.

I agree. Dayton is no Billy Beane, but I think he'll reach a point where he knows they need talent for the future. The best way to bring it in now is trading some pieces.

wetwillie · « **Reply #68719 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:15:14 AM »

What can we realistically expect in return for a half season of the above listed players? I'm not very optimistic.

Cire · « **Reply #68720 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:16:26 AM »

Prospects

mocat · « **Reply #68721 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:30:38 AM »

did you guys know that Billy Butler hit a home run in Fenway Park for the Yankees last year??? i don't want to overuse mind blown but gal dang if my mind wasn't blown when i found that out

SdK · « **Reply #68722 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:37:59 AM »

scottwildcat · « **Reply #68723 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:42:14 AM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on April 13, 2017, 10:06:43 AM

Quote from: AppleJack on April 13, 2017, 10:03:02 AM
I think there is a very real chance we don't trade anyone and just take our draft pick compensation. Everything I've read from Dayton says they very much value wins. Bottoming out doesn't seem to be a part of his DNA.

Also, those dudes need to produce this year if they're getting the $50m+ contract required to get the compensation.

If that is their preference hopefully the 2018 draft class is loaded.

no way. if we're 15 games out in July we will trade at least 2, maybe 3 of Vargas, Escobar, Moose, Hosmer, Cain, possibly Cuthbert. Also we might try and trade Colon for a small diet coke with no ice.

not only that, but with the new CBA they've devalued pick compensation with departing free agents, and makes it tougher and raised the bar needed to get those picks.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #68724 on:** April 13, 2017, 11:22:46 AM »

good point about the CBA SWC.

In terms of value, that's hard to say right now, but I don't see a haul like the one we gave up for Cueto coming our way. I don't know what contender will be looking to add Hosmer. Better hope for some injuries to Rizzo or Pujols or Lucas Duda or something. Cain can play any outfield spot, so IMO he has the most value.