The Royals

[bones129]

When asked in post game if he's concerned about Yordano's "consistent inconsistency",  Ned confirmed that he is.

[8manpick]

Fangraphs projects us to go under .500 the rest of the way, and have the best record in the AL for the year.

Team	W	L	W%	EXPW	EXPL	rosW%	DIV	WC	POFF	DOFF	ALDS	ALCS	WS
Royals	55	36	0.604	89	73	0.479	0.74	0.136	0.876	0.804	0.351	0.153	0.064
Angels	51	40	0.56	87.9	74.1	0.52	0.64	0.189	0.829	0.737	0.395	0.206	0.1
Yankees	50	41	0.549	88	74	0.535	0.684	0.138	0.821	0.761	0.429	0.241	0.122
Twins	50	42	0.543	81.4	80.6	0.449	0.072	0.181	0.253	0.154	0.061	0.023	0.008
Astros	51	43	0.543	85.2	76.8	0.503	0.307	0.298	0.605	0.451	0.216	0.106	0.047
Orioles	46	45	0.505	81.6	80.4	0.501	0.102	0.168	0.27	0.189	0.091	0.042	0.018
Blue Jays	47	47	0.5	82.2	79.8	0.517	0.131	0.185	0.316	0.223	0.111	0.056	0.028
Tigers	46	46	0.5	81.7	80.3	0.51	0.092	0.186	0.278	0.183	0.091	0.042	0.021
Rays	47	48	0.495	79.5	82.5	0.485	0.037	0.089	0.126	0.08	0.037	0.017	0.006
Indians	44	47	0.484	81.6	80.4	0.529	0.086	0.186	0.272	0.183	0.097	0.052	0.026
Rangers	43	49	0.467	75.5	86.5	0.464	0.007	0.016	0.023	0.015	0.006	0.002	0.001
White Sox	42	48	0.467	76.7	85.3	0.482	0.01	0.032	0.042	0.026	0.012	0.005	0.002
Athletics	43	51	0.457	77.5	84.5	0.507	0.017	0.04	0.057	0.039	0.018	0.008	0.004
Red Sox	42	50	0.457	79.4	82.6	0.535	0.046	0.091	0.137	0.095	0.053	0.029	0.013
Mariners	42	51	0.452	78.8	83.2	0.533	0.03	0.065	0.095	0.062	0.032	0.017	0.008

[ksuwizard]

When asked in post game if he's concerned about Yordano's "consistent inconsistency",  Ned confirmed that he is.

I'd be OK if Ned sent him back down until his "consistent inconsistency" became just "consistent". Between his hotheadedness early in the season and dealing with the injury, I just don't think it's worth risking games on his "inconsistency". Granted, Royals have a decent lead in the division to give up a few here and there, but for my money, his juice isn't worth the squeeze at the moment.

[mocat]

i wish we wouldn't have broken Yordano just because he had too much swag. in my perfect world, you let yordano tell adam eaton to go eff himself, because that means he is pitching 7 scoreless

[mocat]

was it adam eaton? i don't remember but i think it was

[Rage Against the McKee]

i wish we wouldn't have broken Yordano just because he had too much swag. in my perfect world, you let yordano tell adam eaton to go eff himself, because that means he is pitching 7 scoreless

Yes. I think Yordano is up on the mound thinking, "Gee whiz, I'd better not upset this gentleman in the batter's box by spewing profanities at him," and then he can't place his pitches correctly. Ned needs to get off his back and let Yordano be the enforcer he was born to be.

And yes, it was Adam Eaton. Nobody on this planet has ever deserved to be told "eff you" more than that crap eating bastard, other than maybe Mike Trout.

[mocat]

i have no problem with adam eaton and certainly not mike trout, but that's not the point

[sys]

gmafb with the ventura's problems are mental crap.  whether you think he's some injury-faking head case, or think that he can't pitch unless he's allowed to yell at the opposing players.

when he sucks, he sucks because the ball doesn't go where he wants it to, just like every other pitcher in the world that sometimes sucks.

[Rage Against the McKee]

gmafb with the ventura's problems are mental crap.  whether you think he's some injury-faking head case, or think that he can't pitch unless he's allowed to yell at the opposing players.

when he sucks, he sucks because the ball doesn't go where he wants it to, just like every other pitcher in the world that sometimes sucks.

Those other pitchers' problems are mostly mental, too.

[sys]

Those other pitchers' problems are mostly mental, too.

only if you consider the brain telling the body how to move to throw a ball mental.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Ventura's brain stops telling his body how to move to throw a ball every time a runner gets on base. He's still pretty good when nobody's on.

[8manpick]

Ventura's brain stops telling his body how to move to throw a ball every time a runner gets on base. He's still pretty good when nobody's on.

Or it's a completely different motion with more things to think about, oh and a fairly small sample size too.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Ventura's brain stops telling his body how to move to throw a ball every time a runner gets on base. He's still pretty good when nobody's on.

Or it's a completely different motion with more things to think about, oh and a fairly small sample size too.

It's actually almost the same motion with Ventura, and yeah, more things to think about supports that it's a mental issue.

[ksupamplemousse]

Ventura has not really learned how to deal with adversity very well. The bigger problem is that he can't throw a rough ridin' breaking ball for a strike. The Royals need to send him down to the minors for the rest of the AAA season with a comprehensive plan to get him back on track. He needs to have a dedicated mentor (maybe they can hire trash dick) to work with him on his attitude/focus, and he rough ridin' HAS to learn to throw a breaking ball for a strike, because his changeup is dreadful. They probably need to add a pitch to the repertoire so he has something other than his change to fall back on when the curve isn't working.

[star seed 7]

bitb would love the last few pages

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think the Royals should try to instill superstition into Ventura. He needs lucky socks or something. Anything to take his mind off of the awful season he's having.

[8manpick]

Ventura's brain stops telling his body how to move to throw a ball every time a runner gets on base. He's still pretty good when nobody's on.

Or it's a completely different motion with more things to think about, oh and a fairly small sample size too.

It's actually almost the same motion with Ventura, and yeah, more things to think about supports that it's a mental issue.

It isn't the same motion.  2 games back since (1 was a win, and a decent performance by the way) a DL stint makes me inclined to give our "ace" a few more opportunities.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Ventura's brain stops telling his body how to move to throw a ball every time a runner gets on base. He's still pretty good when nobody's on.

Or it's a completely different motion with more things to think about, oh and a fairly small sample size too.

It's actually almost the same motion with Ventura, and yeah, more things to think about supports that it's a mental issue.

It isn't the same motion.  2 games back since (1 was a win, and a decent performance by the way) a DL stint makes me inclined to give our "ace" a few more opportunities.

He gave up 3 runs and only lasted 5 innings the game before this last one. That's not decent at all.

[8manpick]

That is decent. It isn't great, but if he had gone another scoreless inning it's a QS. He threw 88 pitches, and had one bad inning. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yordano Ventura has been almost as good as Joe Blanton this season.

[mocat]

He gave up 3 runs and only lasted 5 innings the game before this last one. That's not decent at all.

look at this rough ridin' guy right here

[Rage Against the McKee]

He gave up 3 runs and only lasted 5 innings the game before this last one. That's not decent at all.

look at this rough ridin' guy right here

It's decent in the sense that it's one of his better performances of the season, but it's not decent in the sense that if he went out and did that every start, he'd still be the worst starter on the roster.

[The Big Train]

He gave up 3 runs and only lasted 5 innings the game before this last one. That's not decent at all.

look at this rough ridin' guy right here

It's decent in the sense that it's one of his better performances of the season, but it's not decent in the sense that if he went out and did that every start, he'd still be the worst starter on the roster.

[/b]

you should have your nuts kicked so saying something like this

[Rage Against the McKee]

He gave up 3 runs and only lasted 5 innings the game before this last one. That's not decent at all.

look at this rough ridin' guy right here

It's decent in the sense that it's one of his better performances of the season, but it's not decent in the sense that if he went out and did that every start, he'd still be the worst starter on the roster.

[/b]

you should have your nuts kicked so saying something like this

He's only managed to give up less than 4 runs in the first 5 innings of his starts 7 times. Half of his starts have been complete implosions that give the Royals little to no chance of winning.

[420seriouscat69]

rank your royals starters right now (to this day):

1. Volquez
2. Duffy
3. Young
4. Guthrie
5. Vargas
6. Ventura