Author Topic: The Royals (Read 5880935 times)

mocat · « **Reply #52475 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:29:43 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2015, 02:26:53 PM

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on October 20, 2015, 02:23:08 PM
The best start I have seen by a Royals player since Zack Greinke was on the bump, was 7 days ago by Johnny Cueto, in a do or die winner take all game 5. He got behind in the game, and then didn't allow a baserunner. He was terrible yesterday, but to not gamble that he's capable of another one like ALDS 5 is stupid. Have a short leash, whatever, but to suggest he be left off the playoff roster (for who? Guthrie? Gomes? GMAFB) is idiotic.

If you have a short leash, you pull Cueto in the second inning of game 5. It's stupid to have him on the mound in the first place. We have better pitchers.

if Cueto pitches again, this will be the case.

however yesterday, Ned specifically said before the game that he was approaching it like a regular season game. now you can agree or disagree with Ned's approach, but he is looking at a 2-0 lead, with three games in a row in a tough place to pitch. once it got out of hand early, he decided EFF IT i'm saving everybody for games 4 and 5. we'll see if it pays off.

DQ12 · « **Reply #52476 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:30:38 PM »

Quote from: sys on October 20, 2015, 02:17:50 PM

duffy in on the roster, i'm not sure what you are driving at there.

the website on my phone didn't list him on the roster for whatever reason.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #52477 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:31:21 PM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on October 20, 2015, 02:28:54 PM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2015, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on October 20, 2015, 02:23:08 PM
The best start I have seen by a Royals player since Zack Greinke was on the bump, was 7 days ago by Johnny Cueto, in a do or die winner take all game 5. He got behind in the game, and then didn't allow a baserunner. He was terrible yesterday, but to not gamble that he's capable of another one like ALDS 5 is stupid. Have a short leash, whatever, but to suggest he be left off the playoff roster (for who? Guthrie? Gomes? GMAFB) is idiotic.

If you have a short leash, you pull Cueto in the second inning of game 5. It's stupid to have him on the mound in the first place. We have better pitchers.
History/stats prove otherwise. He's had the lowest ERA in the past 5 years vs. like the rest of the league. Yes, I understand his recent trend, but you can't ignore last Wednesdays performance.

And yesterday's game by no means called for a short leash the same way a game 7 will, though he should have been done once Toronto got 6 on Tulo's home run.

slobber · « **Reply #52478 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:31:46 PM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on October 20, 2015, 02:28:54 PM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2015, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on October 20, 2015, 02:23:08 PM
The best start I have seen by a Royals player since Zack Greinke was on the bump, was 7 days ago by Johnny Cueto, in a do or die winner take all game 5. He got behind in the game, and then didn't allow a baserunner. He was terrible yesterday, but to not gamble that he's capable of another one like ALDS 5 is stupid. Have a short leash, whatever, but to suggest he be left off the playoff roster (for who? Guthrie? Gomes? GMAFB) is idiotic.

If you have a short leash, you pull Cueto in the second inning of game 5. It's stupid to have him on the mound in the first place. We have better pitchers.
History/stats prove otherwise. He's had the lowest ERA in the past 5 years vs. like the rest of the league. Yes, I understand his recent trend, but you can't ignore last Wednesdays performance, because of yesterday.

I just ignored the eff right our of it!

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #52479 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:32:16 PM »

some of you act as if Medlen or Young out there is some no risk proposition

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #52480 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:32:55 PM »

This is the problem with some of you baseball geeks...it doesn't always boil down to statistics. If you've ever played the game, you know playoffs are different than regular season, home is different than away, etc etc. We are still talking about human beings with brains and feelings and circadian rythyms and god knows what else.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #52481 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:34:11 PM »

Quote from: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2015, 02:32:55 PM

This is the problem with some of you baseball geeks...it doesn't always boil down to statistics. If you've ever played the game, you know playoffs are different than regular season, home is different than away, etc etc. We are still talking about human beings with brains and feelings and circadian rythyms and god knows what else.

ok wacky

kslim · « **Reply #52482 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:34:51 PM »

everyone shut up and post pics of your hero doing hero things. 30 minutes to go

AppleJack · « **Reply #52483 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:35:20 PM »

everyone shut up. let's get a win today

kslim · « **Reply #52484 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:35:55 PM »

sys · « **Reply #52485 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:36:03 PM »

his results were great in game 5. i'm not as convinced that he was great. the astros batters panicked and swung at anything close. give him credit for taking advantage, but he didn't have to make many great pitches to put together a great outing.

let's not forget that the royals have scored 5, 7 and 8 runs in the games cueto has started. it's fairly likely that if medlen had started those games the royals would have gone 3-0 instead of 2-1. i'd prefer that to a slightly greater margin of victory in one of cueto's wins.

kslim · « **Reply #52486 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:36:31 PM »

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #52487 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:37:02 PM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on October 20, 2015, 02:28:54 PM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2015, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on October 20, 2015, 02:23:08 PM
The best start I have seen by a Royals player since Zack Greinke was on the bump, was 7 days ago by Johnny Cueto, in a do or die winner take all game 5. He got behind in the game, and then didn't allow a baserunner. He was terrible yesterday, but to not gamble that he's capable of another one like ALDS 5 is stupid. Have a short leash, whatever, but to suggest he be left off the playoff roster (for who? Guthrie? Gomes? GMAFB) is idiotic.

If you have a short leash, you pull Cueto in the second inning of game 5. It's stupid to have him on the mound in the first place. We have better pitchers.
History/stats prove otherwise. He's had the lowest ERA in the past 5 years vs. like the rest of the league. Yes, I understand his recent trend, but you can't ignore last Wednesdays performance, because of yesterday.

His recent trend covers half of the season. It's not just one bad performance. The outlier is his game 5 vs the Astros. Last night's game is who his is now.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #52488 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:37:23 PM »

sys and RATM, shut up, we've moved on.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #52489 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:37:29 PM »

sys · « **Reply #52490 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:37:55 PM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on October 20, 2015, 02:32:16 PM

some of you act as if Medlen or Young out there is some no risk proposition

there is always risk. medlen and young are less risky than cueto.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #52491 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:38:13 PM »

kso_FAN · « **Reply #52492 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:38:30 PM »

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #52493 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:38:47 PM »

kso_FAN · « **Reply #52494 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:39:01 PM »

kslim · « **Reply #52495 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:39:23 PM »

kso_FAN · « **Reply #52496 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:39:37 PM »

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #52497 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:39:44 PM »

sys · « **Reply #52498 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:39:58 PM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on October 20, 2015, 02:37:23 PM

sys and RATM, shut up, we've moved on.

dude, get over yourself. this is not your private thread. if you aren't interested in the topic, talk to other posters about whatever Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap you want.

Panjandrum · « **Reply #52499 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:40:22 PM »

This Moose/Young segment about their dead parents is making it dusty in here.