The Royals

[mocat]

weird thing (that does not change the Gomes/Gore debate):

both Rios and Orlando have reverse splits vs RHP/LHP

[sys]

why in the world would you think that's a troll take?

that's the way the schedule is set up for pitching on normal rest.  game 5 you could either pitch the game 1 starter on 5 days rest or the game 2 on normal rest.  so i don't see any valid reason to eff up the everyone's schedules to move cueto to game 1.  especially since he'd have to skip his last start to do so.  i'd much rather see him pitch twice in the regular season and use both starts to let him get back into form/continue to evaluate if he sucks.

[Cartierfor3]

k so everyone wants this:

C
Butera
Perez

INF
Hosmer
Zobrist
Colon
Escobar
Moustakas
Morales

OF
Gordon
Dyson
Cain
Rios
Orlando

PR
Gore

SP
Cueto
Ventura
Medlen
Volquez

RP
Davis
Hochevar
Herrera
Young
Madson
Duffy
Morales

Hurt: Infante, Holland, Vargas, Collins, etc.
Left off: Guthrie, Cuthbert, Joba, Almonte, Gomes, etc.

[mocat]

if Holland was not injured, which pitcher would have been left off?

[Cartierfor3]

I just think people have this memory in their head of Gore tearing up the bases and winning us games, and that didn't really happen. There was the crazy game against the White Sox in September last year, but that's it.

I just hate taking out hitters who could come up again for pinch running. Like when Ned did that on Wednesday PR'ing Gore for Morales and a meaningless run.

[Cartierfor3]

if Holland was not injured, which pitcher would have been left off?

Morales. With Duffy out there his value is greatly diminished, and he's been off lately.

[mocat]

https://twitter.com/royals/status/648279418809376768

you know who loves dressing up like an inmate? not Paulo Orlando

[Cartierfor3]

I'd honestly be in favor of Cuthbert over Gore on the roster too

[kso_FAN]

if Holland was not injured, which pitcher would have been left off?

Morales. With Duffy out there his value is greatly diminished, and he's been off lately.

I agree with this. I've been a Morales advocate as a lefty in the pen, but he's been pretty bad lately and Duffy takes care of that. Plus, Ned doesn't operate that way very often anyway.

[sys]

i think i'd take gomes over orlando.  not positive, but i think so.  gomes/gore combo gives you more than orlando.  rather have guys that do one thing really well than guys that are ok all around.

also would maybe lean almonte over morales.  hard to imagine yost suddenly using morales as a one guy against lefties pitcher and he's been real bad lately.  almonte would give you a gambling chip.  he seems like he either walks, strikes out or gives up a hr to every batter.  if it comes down to a time when you need the worst reliever on your roster, i'd be ok gambling on a guy that can strike out the side.

[mocat]

sys really really really does not like Morales.

[Rage Against the McKee]

i think i'd take gomes over orlando.  not positive, but i think so.  gomes/gore combo gives you more than orlando.  rather have guys that do one thing really well than guys that are ok all around.

also would maybe lean almonte over morales.  hard to imagine yost suddenly using morales as a one guy against lefties pitcher and he's been real bad lately.  almonte would give you a gambling chip.  he seems like he either walks, strikes out or gives up a hr to every batter.  if it comes down to a time when you need the worst reliever on your roster, i'd be ok gambling on a guy that can strike out the side.

Yeah, I really like Almonte, too. I'm hopeful he can crack the rotation next year.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

why in the world would you think that's a troll take?

that's the way the schedule is set up for pitching on normal rest.  game 5 you could either pitch the game 1 starter on 5 days rest or the game 2 on normal rest.  so i don't see any valid reason to eff up the everyone's schedules to move cueto to game 1.  especially since he'd have to skip his last start to do so.  i'd much rather see him pitch twice in the regular season and use both starts to let him get back into form/continue to evaluate if he sucks.

because you throw your best pitcher in game 1 to get momentum and go a game up in the series. if he gets an extra days rest then oh well. the regular season doesnt matter. ned doesnt care about home field and i really dont either. still gotta get wins and cueto is our best chance of winning game 1 against whoever we play.

[wetwillie]

I dont think there is a discernable difference between ventura and cueto at this point in time.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I dont think there is a discernable difference between ventura and cueto at this point in time.

If anything, Ventura is a little bit better.

[SdK]

Do we use Gore for anything besides stealing a base?

[SdK]

Then promptly remove him from the line up?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Do we use Gore for anything besides stealing a base?

Sometimes he steals 2 bases.

[SdK]

Something to ponder.

[sys]

because you throw your best pitcher in game 1 to get momentum and go a game up in the series. if he gets an extra days rest then oh well. the regular season doesnt matter. ned doesnt care about home field and i really dont either. still gotta get wins and cueto is our best chance of winning game 1 against whoever we play.

intergame momentum is meaningless.  you throw your best pitchers first so they can pitch game 5.  that's it.

[sys]

i don't understand why c43 wants all these pinch hitters.  we're talking american leagues series.  they aren't going to be pinch hitting unless someone gets hurt or someone is put in to pinch run.  if you don't have gore, then your pinch runnning oppys are much more limited, so you don't need the pinch hitters you didn't put gore on to make space for.  catch 22 4 c43.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

because you throw your best pitcher in game 1 to get momentum and go a game up in the series. if he gets an extra days rest then oh well. the regular season doesnt matter. ned doesnt care about home field and i really dont either. still gotta get wins and cueto is our best chance of winning game 1 against whoever we play.

intergame momentum is meaningless.  you throw your best pitchers first so they can pitch game 5.  that's it.

ok well like every manager ever agrees with me and throws their best pitcher game 1.

[mocat]

who is Gomes going to PH for?

has to be a lefty:
Alex? no
Hosmer? no
Moustakas? no

every other starter is a righty or switchy.

the only person Gomes would ever PH for is Dyson. But Dyson would only be in the game after being inserted late for running/defense, both of which Ned would still want in the game going forward.

if we're talking World Series, you might want Gomes. but not for the DS/CS

[mocat]

if Gore is on the roster, he may or may not have an impact.
if Gomes is on the roster, he will not have an impact

[star seed 7]

In addition to that mocat, gomes looks homeless