Author Topic: The Royals (Read 5803365 times)

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #48000 on:** September 23, 2015, 04:28:23 PM »

Quote from: TownieCat on September 23, 2015, 04:24:16 PM

Quote from: sys on September 23, 2015, 04:13:52 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on September 23, 2015, 04:06:32 PM
— Young baseball players are some of the most underpaid people in American professional sports.

— Old baseball players are some of the most overpaid people in American professional sports.

yeah, baseball salaries are really weird. it's like, not at all a meritocracy, like you find in most sports. the most equitable thing about it is that really good players tend to get to the majors faster than less good players. but late bloomers, like cain, and maybe to a lesser extent orlando, get completely mumped.

You aren't very well schooled in pro sports contracts. It's very common in the NBA and NFL for vets to be wildly overpaid while younger good players make much less than they're worth.

The difference is that those players don't get guaranteed contracts and stop getting paid as soon as they stop producing.

TownieCat · « **Reply #48001 on:** September 23, 2015, 04:29:07 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on September 23, 2015, 04:28:23 PM

Quote from: TownieCat on September 23, 2015, 04:24:16 PM

Quote from: sys on September 23, 2015, 04:13:52 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on September 23, 2015, 04:06:32 PM
— Young baseball players are some of the most underpaid people in American professional sports.

— Old baseball players are some of the most overpaid people in American professional sports.

yeah, baseball salaries are really weird. it's like, not at all a meritocracy, like you find in most sports. the most equitable thing about it is that really good players tend to get to the majors faster than less good players. but late bloomers, like cain, and maybe to a lesser extent orlando, get completely mumped.

You aren't very well schooled in pro sports contracts. It's very common in the NBA and NFL for vets to be wildly overpaid while younger good players make much less than they're worth.

The difference is that those players don't get guaranteed contracts and stop getting paid as soon as they stop producing.

NBA contracts are guaranteed.

sys · « **Reply #48002 on:** September 23, 2015, 04:32:07 PM »

Quote from: TownieCat on September 23, 2015, 04:24:16 PM

You aren't very well schooled in pro sports contracts. It's very common in the NBA and NFL for vets to be wildly overpaid while younger good players make much less than they're worth.

nothing like in baseball. fball contracts aren't guaranteed, so there really aren't any overpaid vets. nba players are only club controlled for 4 years rather than 6, and the upper level of rookie contracts is more like 20% of the salary of the most highly paid vets; in baseball it's more like 1-2%.

8manpick · « **Reply #48003 on:** September 23, 2015, 04:37:29 PM »

Quote from: sys on September 23, 2015, 04:23:55 PM

8 joe blantons would only need to pitch 50 innings each.

Those Blantons aren't averaging 6 and a half IP per start with a winning record.

TownieCat · « **Reply #48004 on:** September 23, 2015, 04:39:23 PM »

Quote from: sys on September 23, 2015, 04:32:07 PM

Quote from: TownieCat on September 23, 2015, 04:24:16 PM
You aren't very well schooled in pro sports contracts. It's very common in the NBA and NFL for vets to be wildly overpaid while younger good players make much less than they're worth.

nothing like in baseball. fball contracts aren't guaranteed, so there really aren't any overpaid vets. nba players are only club controlled for 4 years rather than 6, and the upper level of rookie contracts is more like 20% of the salary of the most highly paid vets; in baseball it's more like 1-2%.

The difference is baseball does not have cap restrictions. Teams will just eat bad contracts if they're in a financial position to just go get a better player. A bad contract in the NBA will cripple a team for a few years (ex.: Knicks, Nets)

SdK · « **Reply #48005 on:** September 23, 2015, 04:41:02 PM »

So yes guys. Boo Cueto not Guthrie. Case closed. Glad we can all agree. #1royal

mocat · « **Reply #48006 on:** September 23, 2015, 04:46:12 PM »

Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on September 23, 2015, 04:41:02 PM

So yes guys. Boo Cueto not Guthrie. Case closed. Glad we can all agree. #1royal

they are not mutually exclusive. i prefer to not boo either of them. i will boo dusty coleman if i ever see him again. i will boo the royals in general if it appears dayton/ned/the players are not trying to win. do you think any of the players are not trying to win? do you think cueto is a loser? will it make you feel better if cueto sucks and you boo him? i want the world series son. i want to win.

sys · « **Reply #48007 on:** September 23, 2015, 04:47:28 PM »

Quote from: 8manpick on September 23, 2015, 04:37:29 PM

Those Blantons aren't averaging 6 and a half IP per start with a winning record.

the actual joe blanton has already pitched almost 70 innings and provided 0.6 war this year. you'd only need two more blantons to exceed guthrie's total innings and value. the other blantons could wash out entirely.

SdK · « **Reply #48008 on:** September 23, 2015, 05:06:43 PM »

Quote from: mocat on September 23, 2015, 04:46:12 PM

Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on September 23, 2015, 04:41:02 PM
So yes guys. Boo Cueto not Guthrie. Case closed. Glad we can all agree. #1royal

they are not mutually exclusive. i prefer to not boo either of them. i will boo dusty coleman if i ever see him again. i will boo the royals in general if it appears dayton/ned/the players are not trying to win. do you think any of the players are not trying to win? do you think cueto is a loser? will it make you feel better if cueto sucks and you boo him? i want the world series son. i want to win.

Honestly. Aside from Gordon, none of them look like they care that much as of late. The rest have made me happy before. Cueto has only let me down. That's my logic. Also, I'm a huge Gordon fan boy.

SdK · « **Reply #48009 on:** September 23, 2015, 05:08:22 PM »

I don't ever boo a team I root for.

sunny_cat · « **Reply #48010 on:** September 23, 2015, 05:40:23 PM »

Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on September 23, 2015, 05:08:22 PM

I don't ever boo a team I root for.

I booed Westicles last season. Not something I'm proud of.

sys · « **Reply #48011 on:** September 23, 2015, 06:23:05 PM »

houston lost again.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #48012 on:** September 23, 2015, 07:20:50 PM »

Quote from: sunny_cat on September 23, 2015, 05:40:23 PM

Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on September 23, 2015, 05:08:22 PM
I don't ever boo a team I root for.

I booed Westicles last season. Not something I'm proud of.

You're a monster!

sys · « **Reply #48013 on:** September 23, 2015, 07:43:45 PM »

one thing i don't like about toronto is this stroman cat coming in and throwing scoreless innings like an bad person.

Powercat Posse · « **Reply #48014 on:** September 23, 2015, 07:45:25 PM »

0-5 with RISP thru 2 innings.....

Another great start for a team that can't do anything right these days

wetwillie · « **Reply #48015 on:** September 23, 2015, 07:46:17 PM »

Who us towin the slab tonight?

sys · « **Reply #48016 on:** September 23, 2015, 07:52:55 PM »

on the other hand, i really enjoy ventura throwing all of his scoreless innings. i guess i just can't decide.

sys · « **Reply #48017 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:00:15 PM »

how about scoreless elias innings, you ask? not a fan, sorry.

The Big Train · « **Reply #48018 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:15:16 PM »

Rios!

sys · « **Reply #48019 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:16:20 PM »

one of the things i haven't liked about the way elias does his innings, is how he puts the first batter or two on base and then shuts down the later hitters of the inning.

now this last inning, he's switched things up a little and he's spacing out the hits and outs a little more. i have to say, i find it more aesthetically pleasing.

wetwillie · « **Reply #48020 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:16:42 PM »

Is there a most sac flys in a season stat?

sys · « **Reply #48021 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:18:16 PM »

walking escobar is a nice touch. most pitchers wouldn't think to do that, but it brightens up the whole inning.

Powercat Posse · « **Reply #48022 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:23:47 PM »

Weak a** ground ball to SS with bases loaded. Zoby is starting to piss me off.

Another wasted inning where we get a whooping 1 run.

SdK · « **Reply #48023 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:26:25 PM »

I miss Omar.

wetwillie · « **Reply #48024 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:28:12 PM »

Man this old dude is killing my royals vibe.

Author Topic: The Royals (Read 5803365 times)

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