The Royals

[bones129]

What the heck is happening? I just turned the game on in my office and saw that homer. Bad game all around or just little things?

little things like getting the crap hit out of your starting pitcher and yostsie deciding to just leave him there and take it.

Yost gonna Yost

[sys]

between today and the other day with volkie, i wonder if someone told yost he needs to cut back on his use of the pen?  if so, they need a more creative solution than just leaving the starters out longer.  like a reliever they don't care about using in the postseason that they can use the crap out of in august.

[Missouriscribe]

Yost is really puzzling. I could tell he needed to be pulled when the second guy got aboard that inning. Either he thinks our pen is still exhausted or he's trying to prove to Jeremy why he is losing his spot in the rotation.

[Missouriscribe]

I'm all for having a healthy staff before the stretch run, but these guys don't need three days off in a row after throwing an inning for two out of three days.

[420seriouscat69]

Meh. Our 5 vs. their Ace. It was due to happen.

['taterblast]

see ya, Guthrie

[ChiComCat]

Meh, if the game is a lost cause let's not waste our good arms.  This game was pretty much a lost cause the way Guthrie started

[sys]

I'm all for having a healthy staff before the stretch run, but these guys don't need three days off in a row after throwing an inning for two out of three days.

davis and herrera probably do need to be used sparingly.  it's not so much about days off in row as cumulative innings.  they pitched a ton last year due to the postseason and they're both on pace to pitch a ton again this year if you include the postseason.

i haven't seen any data rich articles on reliever use, but conventional wisdom seems to be that using them more than 70 innings or so per season is detrimental.  in the absence of data, it seems prudent to stick with that as a rule of thumb.  since they're likely to throw a lot of post season innings, i'd prefer to see them limited to 65 or less in the regular season.  which would mean using them a a fair bit less than they were used in the first part of the season.

not to mention - every time they go out, there is some small chance of an injury.  risk management with that in mind would dictate using them no more than is necessary to keep them sharp.



it's kind of a let down after the fun of last season's august and september, but the royals and royals fans this season are really just killing time until october.  in a way, it's too bad detroit decided to suck so much this season.

[Missouriscribe]

Valid points. Don't want to Bobby Thigpen Davis, especially. If we're balancing risk for relief injuries with risk for starting pitching, maybe that's why they let Guthrie burn today. Almost a Blanton-like sendoff.

[sys]

If we're balancing risk for relief injuries with risk for starting pitching.

yeah, that's the problem.  guthrie doesn't matter, but pitching tired starting pitchers that do matter more innings doesn't seem like a smart alternative.


also, it sucked to see hoch get murdered today, he'd been pitching so well lately.

[420seriouscat69]

I don't like Hoch. I mean, I always root for him, but he's too much of a reminder of the past.

[slobber]

At least Guts got a few body shots in on these chumps today.

[TownieCat]

Hit totals for yesterday and today: Hos - 5, everyone else - 5

[TownieCat]

Hit totals for yesterday and today: Hos - 5, everyone else - 5

Edit: Hos - 5, Omar - 3, everyone else - 2

[Missouriscribe]

Yep. If Hoch has another outing or two like this soon his spot might be in jeopardy.

[slobber]

I still love Hoch. I think he will have some meaningful innings come playoffs. I feel like they just throw him enough right now to not damage him, but keep him sharp.

So J. Guts. He is 7-7. What is the Royal's record in his starts? If the number 5 guy gets you a win in 50% of his starts, that isn't too shabby. Right?

[TownieCat]

I still love Hoch. I think he will have some meaningful innings come playoffs. I feel like they just throw him enough right now to not damage him, but keep him sharp.

So J. Guts. He is 7-7. What is the Royal's record in his starts? If the number 5 guy gets you a win in 50% of his starts, that isn't too shabby. Right?

What if I told you we won 60% of his starts?

[kso_FAN]

it's too bad detroit decided to suck so much this season.

And now (apparently) they have quit on the season.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13339786/detroit-tigers-tell-teams-david-price-other-potential-free-agents-available

[SdK]

I still love Hoch. I think he will have some meaningful innings come playoffs. I feel like they just throw him enough right now to not damage him, but keep him sharp.

So J. Guts. He is 7-7. What is the Royal's record in his starts? If the number 5 guy gets you a win in 50% of his starts, that isn't too shabby. Right?

He has started more than 14 times. Which may mean we are better than .500 when he starts.

[SdK]

I still love Hoch. I think he will have some meaningful innings come playoffs. I feel like they just throw him enough right now to not damage him, but keep him sharp.

So J. Guts. He is 7-7. What is the Royal's record in his starts? If the number 5 guy gets you a win in 50% of his starts, that isn't too shabby. Right?

What if I told you we won 60% of his starts?

Yes!

[kso_FAN]

12-8 in Gutty starts. 10-6 in Young starts. 36% off our wins with Guts/Young starting.

[Dr Rick Daris]

it's amazing how much the tigers suck once the royals decided to actually start trying again

[420seriouscat69]

Whatever happened to KK?

[slobber]

I still love Hoch. I think he will have some meaningful innings come playoffs. I feel like they just throw him enough right now to not damage him, but keep him sharp.

So J. Guts. He is 7-7. What is the Royal's record in his starts? If the number 5 guy gets you a win in 50% of his starts, that isn't too shabby. Right?

What if I told you we won 60% of his starts?

#broil

[TownieCat]

it's too bad detroit decided to suck so much this season.

And now (apparently) they have quit on the season.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13339786/detroit-tigers-tell-teams-david-price-other-potential-free-agents-available

It's not just that they're 49-52 and 4 games out of the wild card, but more that they are behind 5 teams for the last spot. The Royals were 3.5 games back on this date last year, but only behind 3 teams.