Author Topic: The Royals (Read 5845119 times)

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #40675 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:39:41 AM »

Quote from: sys on July 22, 2015, 11:36:01 AM

shields is interesting because they could probably get him for just cash. not sure that'd be a good use of the cash, but it's potentially an interesting alternative to giving up prospects.

It's a great use of the cash if they can do that.

kslim · « **Reply #40676 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:40:33 AM »

oakland is going to oakland and give up their best player for a bag of balls

i say go get sonny gray

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #40677 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:40:48 AM »

Do we have no shot of keeping Price or Cespedes after this season or what?

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #40678 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:41:53 AM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on July 22, 2015, 11:40:48 AM

Do we have no shot of keeping Price or Cespedes after this season or what?

Not unless we want to still be paying them when they are old and worthless.

WildcatNkilt · « **Reply #40679 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:42:34 AM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on July 22, 2015, 11:40:48 AM

Do we have no shot of keeping Price or Cespedes after this season or what?

They are in the same situation Lester was in last year. Oakland rented him for the rest of their season/playoffs, then it was a Lester bidding war across MLB. (UFA)

TownieCat · « **Reply #40680 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:46:03 AM »

If the playoffs started today the Royals would have 2 of the best 6 starters in the AL (Young/Volquez) in terms of ERA.

kslim · « **Reply #40681 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:48:33 AM »

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #40682 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:53:35 AM »

It's so glorious.

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #40683 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:54:04 AM »

Did anyone ever find a .gif of him laughing when Rios got hit in the balls?

sys · « **Reply #40684 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:54:21 AM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on July 22, 2015, 11:39:41 AM

Quote from: sys on July 22, 2015, 11:36:01 AM
shields is interesting because they could probably get him for just cash. not sure that'd be a good use of the cash, but it's potentially an interesting alternative to giving up prospects.

It's a great use of the cash if they can do that.

it's a lot of cash. unless glass is suddenly going to spend a ton of money, it'd probably be better to use it to resign gordon or go get other players.

sys · « **Reply #40685 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:57:56 AM »

Quote from: TownieCat on July 22, 2015, 11:46:03 AM

If the playoffs started today the Royals would have 2 of the best 6 starters in the AL (Young/Volquez) in terms of ERA.

even with vargie going down, if either medlen returns to anything close to his pre-injury form or ventura comes back and either gets luckier on babip, isn't hurt, fixes his mechanics, fixes his dome or salvy does a better job calling his pitches, depending on what you think his problem has been, the royals are in pretty good shape. unfortunately the margin of error isn't what it looked to be a few days ago.

sys · « **Reply #40686 on:** July 22, 2015, 12:01:32 PM »

btw, here is more on the injury hypothesis.

http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/7/21/9012427/venturas-status-a-therapists-physical-perspective

kslim · « **Reply #40687 on:** July 22, 2015, 12:03:25 PM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on July 22, 2015, 11:54:04 AM

Did anyone ever find a .gif of him laughing when Rios got hit in the balls?

http://imgur.com/gallery/LC9vxaD

thought i posted it i guess not. here you go

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #40688 on:** July 22, 2015, 12:06:51 PM »

You probably did. I took a couple weeks off from the board and that would have been during that time.

SabiNation · « **Reply #40689 on:** July 22, 2015, 01:11:40 PM »

Not sure if it's been talked about or not, but the atmosphere at The K last night was amazing.

8manpick · « **Reply #40690 on:** July 22, 2015, 01:17:20 PM »

Another good read:
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/kansas-city-royals-johnny-cueto-cincinnati-reds-trade-deadline-rumors-072215

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So that leaves just one: the Kansas City Royals. The defending American League champs -- and the team with the league's best record at the moment -- are the most obvious fit for Cueto. While every other contender can make a reasonable case for why the price for Cueto might be too high for its specific situation, the Royals have no such objections.

[...]

Additionally, the team also saw Jason Vargas come off the disabled list, face six batters and leave with another elbow problem. At this point, Kansas City probably shouldn't expect him to pitch again this year. With Vargas out and Ventura a question mark, the team's current rotation consists of Edinson Volquez, Chris Young, Danny Duffy, Jeremy Guthrie and Joe Blanton. Even if you substitute Ventura back in for one of those guys, you're still looking at counting on pitchers who just don't really belong in starting roles in a playoff series.

No contender in baseball would get a larger upgrade from adding Cueto than the Royals because most contenders aren't handing the baseball to Joe Blanton or Jeremy Guthrie on a regular basis. So that alone is a good reason to make a deal. But I'd also suggest that the Royals, who spent years building their farm system to try and get to this point, shouldn't let this opportunity pass by because it might be the best shot they get with this group.

Star left fielder Alex Gordon has the ability to become a free agent at the end of this season, and while he's made some noise about picking up his player option, it's hard to see him playing for $12.5 million next year when he'd likely command a $100 million long-term deal on the open market. So they have to at least consider the possibility that they might lose Gordon next year, and considering he's probably the best left fielder in the American League, that would be a significant blow.

Likewise, the Royals probably aren't going to have their entire bullpen back again next year. Greg Holland is going to blow past $10 million in his final trip through arbitration, and with the team also needing to give arbitration raises to Lorenzo Cain and Mike Moustakas -- plus maybe replace Gordon and get some better starting pitchers -- the organization might finally end up breaking up its dominant group of relievers. Toss in some regression from guys like Cain and Wade Davis, who are simply playing at remarkably high levels that are difficult to sustain over the long term, and there are some legitimate concerns surrounding next year's roster. Especially if Vargas' elbow injury puts him on the shelf for next year as well.

So while the Royals have a terrific young core, it's probably not wise to assume that they're going to cruise to division titles for the foreseeable future. This might very well be the best chance the Royals ever have to win the World Series.

AppleJack · « **Reply #40691 on:** July 22, 2015, 01:18:08 PM »

According to twitter gE's finest were at the K last night. So great to live in this wonderful city.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #40692 on:** July 22, 2015, 01:36:31 PM »

Quote from: AppleJack on July 22, 2015, 01:18:08 PM

According to twitter gE's finest were at the K last night. So great to live in this wonderful city.

What's your handle, AJ?

bones129 · « **Reply #40693 on:** July 22, 2015, 01:44:14 PM »

UCL tear for Vargie.

bones129 · « **Reply #40694 on:** July 22, 2015, 01:46:16 PM »

Yordano recalled.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #40695 on:** July 22, 2015, 01:46:39 PM »

WildcatNkilt · « **Reply #40696 on:** July 22, 2015, 02:02:54 PM »

Why facepalm? What else were they supposed to do?

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #40697 on:** July 22, 2015, 02:06:56 PM »

Quote from: WildcatNkilt on July 22, 2015, 02:02:54 PM

Why facepalm? What else were they supposed to do?

Start Blanton. Ventura is a mess right now.

kslim · « **Reply #40698 on:** July 22, 2015, 02:12:57 PM »

so is lamb just not an option or what?

WildcatNkilt · « **Reply #40699 on:** July 22, 2015, 02:14:40 PM »

They have an open roster spot. So I guess they should have brought up Pino instead of Ventura?