The SLTHst of SLTH

[Kat Kid]

Doc in his painfully earnest drawl--- "Don't forget, we came here to win tonight."  No crap?  On your home court?  Nice reminder Doc.

The tropes from Franklin about "no reward" for their outstanding effort, seeing practice where they "were breaking down that zone just exactly the way Doc wanted."

Then the end, just no athletes, no ability to make a play and win a game.

Good God, the SLTH fog of war was so thick, I got Wooly flashbacks.

[doom]

I'm glad they lost.  Baylor might be our best win in a couple weeks when Texas keeps spiraling. 

[Prince McJunkins]

"We didn't get enough stops."

[Kat Kid]

"We didn't get enough stops."

DOC!  YOU WERE HELD TO 53 POINTS!

[TBL]

"We didn't get enough stops."

DOC!  YOU WERE HELD TO 53 POINTS!

Not to mention 4-21 from behind the arc and 18-57 inside.   

[Cire]

at least 5-7 of those were wide open from running good offense.

[michigancat]

why do all these idiot coaches insist on running the shot clock down to nothing so there's only 15 on the game clock?  WTF does that accomplish?

[Kat Kid]

why do all these idiot coaches insist on running the shot clock down to nothing so there's only 15 on the game clock?  WTF does that accomplish?

You can't leave time on the clock!  It is a sure fire way to lose!   

[kso_FAN]

why do all these idiot coaches insist on running the shot clock down to nothing so there's only 15 on the game clock?  WTF does that accomplish?

Because they don't just want a "good" shot, they want the "best" shot.

[sys]

why do all these idiot coaches insist on running the shot clock down to nothing so there's only 15 on the game clock?  WTF does that accomplish?

apparently, they believe that their team only needs 5 seconds to get a shot, but that the opposing team needs at least 15.

[chum1]

Making the defense work to guard for a longer period of time increases the probability that they'll make a mistake and allow the SLTH offense to take advantage with an easy basket.

[SleepFighter]

Making the defense work to guard for a longer period of time increases the probability that they'll make a mistake and allow the SLTH offense to take advantage with an easy basket.

Holding the ball 35 feet from the basket doesn't force defenses to do all that much work.

[chum1]

Making the defense work to guard for a longer period of time increases the probability that they'll make a mistake and allow the SLTH offense to take advantage with an easy basket.

Holding the ball 35 feet from the basket doesn't force defenses to do all that much work.

I've never seen this other than at the end of a half.

[SleepFighter]

Making the defense work to guard for a longer period of time increases the probability that they'll make a mistake and allow the SLTH offense to take advantage with an easy basket.

Holding the ball 35 feet from the basket doesn't force defenses to do all that much work.

I've never seen this other than at the end of a half.

Which was MICat's point.  Running the game clock down is dumb when your opponent is going to have time for a possesion.  Pat Knight and Doc Saddler have done it on consecutive nights.

Dumb.

[chum1]

Oh, my mistake.  In that case, a reason would be wanting to give your opponent less time to have the ball in their possession.  That's reasonable enough.

[A-Lishious]

Arnt they getting some downtown arena thingy?


I mean.... why? 

[michigancat]

Oh, my mistake.  In that case, a reason would be wanting to give your opponent less time to have the ball in their possession.  That's reasonable enough.

This actually happened twice this week in Big 12 games - TT and NU sat on the ball for 25-30 seconds before trying to do anything, and neither one got the ball close to the rim.  They both gave the other team about 15 seconds of game clock - OU got 2 shots, and BU won the game.  Replacing a turnover/horrible shot on offense with a decent shot in those situations would have been more valuable than shaving 10 seconds on the game clock to get it down to 15.  They hurt themselves a lot more than they hurt the other team.

[TracyCat]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but what is a slth?  A sloth?   

[chum1]

Oh, my mistake.  In that case, a reason would be wanting to give your opponent less time to have the ball in their possession.  That's reasonable enough.

This actually happened twice this week in Big 12 games - TT and NU sat on the ball for 25-30 seconds before trying to do anything, and neither one got the ball close to the rim.  They both gave the other team about 15 seconds of game clock - OU got 2 shots, and BU won the game.  Replacing a turnover/horrible shot on offense with a decent shot in those situations would have been more valuable than shaving 10 seconds on the game clock to get it down to 15.  They hurt themselves a lot more than they hurt the other team.

Does it make sense if you think your team is inferior?

[steve dave]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but what is a slth?  A sloth?   

Solid Long Term Hire.  It was started when everyone threw fits when we hired Huggins and then Martin.  Everyone said we should have gotten a Solid Long Term Hire like McDermott, Sadler, BzD, etc. 

[KITNfury]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but what is a slth?  A sloth?   

Solid, long term hire. It's a negative thing about coaches that have no real ability to become consistently good. We had ours with Wooly. Best examples of SLTHs in the conference right now are probably McNeck, Bzdlkwerzck, and The Doctor.

[TracyCat]

Thanks guys. 

[pissclams]

Oh, my mistake.  In that case, a reason would be wanting to give your opponent less time to have the ball in their possession.  That's reasonable enough.

This actually happened twice this week in Big 12 games - TT and NU sat on the ball for 25-30 seconds before trying to do anything, and neither one got the ball close to the rim.  They both gave the other team about 15 seconds of game clock - OU got 2 shots, and BU won the game.  Replacing a turnover/horrible shot on offense with a decent shot in those situations would have been more valuable than shaving 10 seconds on the game clock to get it down to 15.  They hurt themselves a lot more than they hurt the other team.

NU holding the ball was only a mistake because the other team won, otherwise it would have been a great coaching move.  i mean, the turnover/horrible shot was only a horrible shot because it didn't go in.  i was taught this a few weeks ago on ksufans.com.

what would you want Doc to have them do, run a three man weave for an open lay up?      

[Bookcat]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but what is a slth?  A sloth?   

Solid Long Term Hire.  It was started when everyone threw fits when we hired Huggins and then Martin.  Everyone said we should have gotten a Solid Long Term Hire like McDermott, Sadler, BzD, etc. 

wait up. everyone? count me off the list.

[steve dave]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but what is a slth?  A sloth?   

Solid Long Term Hire.  It was started when everyone threw fits when we hired Huggins and then Martin.  Everyone said we should have gotten a Solid Long Term Hire like McDermott, Sadler, BzD, etc. 

wait up. everyone? count me off the list.

When I say everyone I mean everyone but us.....us meaning elite message boarders (and you)