Should the FDA ban 4Loko?

[SkinnyBenny]

   <---But with something fluorescent and horrible tasting that gets you shitfaced for like two bones.

[michigancat]

Banning the stuff is one of the dumbest rough ridin' things ever.  Never tried it, but I want to just because everyone wants to ban it.

[Rage Against the McKee]

4Loko makes me really wish I was still in college.

[Dr Rick Daris]

crap. i don't even know what it is. 2010 cisco?

[Brock Landers]

No they should not be banning it.  I have never tried the stuff but I'm pretty sure it could be called Douche Fuel.

But I kinda want to try it anyway.

[CNS]

Isn't pretty much the same thing as drinking Red Bull with a crap load of vodka in it?   

Banning it will only make people buy other things that accomplish the same result.  Has Red Bull gotten big enough to have a lobbyist?    Bet they are behind this.

FYI, Loko has to be loving this crap.  I have never heard of it, or seen it before.  Now, it makes national news and all of a sudden we have 4 different flavors of the stuff in my local liqueur store, and I live in a town of less than 3k in ks. 

[jtksu]

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

[AbeFroman]

No they shouldn't ban it, but you are dumb as eff if you drink it.

[CNS]

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both. 

[Benja]

No they shouldn't ban it, but you are dumb as eff if you drink it.

Only if you abuse it, like a million other things.

Edit: alcohol content is quite a bit higher than I thought, though.

[Benja]

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both. 

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

[michigancat]

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both. 

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

It's 12% alcohol in a 24 ounce can.  What's the alcohol content of a rum and coke?    <-Which to me is even more dangerous.

[jtksu]

USA Today says it contains between 6-12% alcohol (by volume) as much caffeine as 5 cups of coffee, and is sold in 23.5 oz cans.  The alcohol content looks like it's about the same as any other malt liqour but that is a ton of caffeine.  eff that crap.

[CNS]

USA Today says it contains between 6-12% alcohol (by volume) as much caffeine as 5 cups of coffee, and is sold in 23.5 oz cans.  The alcohol content looks like it's about the same as any other malt liqour but that is a ton of caffeine.  eff that cac.

There are a lot of beers available that beat that in a 12oz bottle.  There are some germans that exceed 8-10% w/o taking their pants off.  crap, there is a blueberry beer on the shelf of my small ass town that is over 8%.

Needs to be looked at more closely.  FDA could be F'ing me in the A as far as this leading to things I actually like to drink being taken away.  

Lol if this comes down to caffeine content.  

[Benja]

I drink Sparks at work all the time, but that's only like 7 percent, I believe.

[kitten_mittons]

I drink Sparks at work all the time, but that's only like 7 percent, I believe.

Where do you work?

[CNS]

USA Today says it contains between 6-12% alcohol (by volume) as much caffeine as 5 cups of coffee, and is sold in 23.5 oz cans.  The alcohol content looks like it's about the same as any other malt liqour but that is a ton of caffeine.  eff that cac.

I have a somewhat LACCIQ(low alcohol content calculator), but wouldn't a 12oz Red Bull/Vodka blow this away?  The ones I get are usually half and half.  

Vodka = 80 proof = 40%
Make vodka 50% of the drink would take it from 40% to 20% for the 12oz drink, right?

[Benja]

I drink Sparks at work all the time, but that's only like 7 percent, I believe.

Where do you work?

Ville

[jtksu]

Yeah, barelywines laugh at that 12% but people don't tend to binge drink those things.  It may well have a lot to do with the way it's marketed.  Appearantly, 4 refers to the four stages of intoxication it provides.  "Loud, drunk, wasted, and blacked out.". Genius, if you ask me.  I would have had fun with that crap in high school and college.

[pissclams]

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both.  

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

It's 12% alcohol in a 24 ounce can.  What's the alcohol content of a rum and coke?    <-Which to me is even more dangerous.

a drink = a beer = a glass of wine.  they're all the same.

rum and coke generally doesn't come in 24 oz cans marketed at younger drinkers nor does it come in Grape, Fruit Punch, Orange Blend, Watermelon, Blue Raspberry, Lemon Lime, Lemonade, and Cranberry Lemonade flavors.  

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

the FDA is looking at premade drinks that have caffeine in them, not drinks that people put caffeine in.  

[mcmwcat]

USA Today says it contains between 6-12% alcohol (by volume) as much caffeine as 5 cups of coffee, and is sold in 23.5 oz cans.  The alcohol content looks like it's about the same as any other malt liqour but that is a ton of caffeine.  eff that crap.

found my new morning drink 

[CNS]

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both.  

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

It's 12% alcohol in a 24 ounce can.  What's the alcohol content of a rum and coke?    <-Which to me is even more dangerous.

a drink = a beer = a glass of wine.  they're all the same.

rum and coke generally doesn't come in 24 oz cans marketed at younger drinkers nor does it come in Grape, Fruit Punch, Orange Blend, Watermelon, Blue Raspberry, Lemon Lime, Lemonade, and Cranberry Lemonade flavors.  

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

the FDA is looking at premade drinks that have caffeine in them, not drinks that people put caffeine in.  

 The gov's position on all this should be:  Everyone should stop being rough ridin' stupid, but if you are being rough ridin' stupid don't expect to not have to throw up and go to the hospital.  Also, quit being rough ridin' stupid.

[Benja]

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both. 

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

It's 12% alcohol in a 24 ounce can.  What's the alcohol content of a rum and coke?    <-Which to me is even more dangerous.

a drink = a beer = a glass of wine.  they're all the same.

rum and coke generally doesn't come in 24 oz cans marketed at younger drinkers nor does it come in Grape, Fruit Punch, Orange Blend, Watermelon, Blue Raspberry, Lemon Lime, Lemonade, and Cranberry Lemonade flavors. 

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

the FDA is looking at premade drinks that have caffeine in them, not drinks that people put caffeine in. 

 The gov's position on all this should be:  Everyone should stop being rough ridin' stupid, but if you are being rough ridin' stupid don't expect to not have to throw up and go to the hospital.  Also, quit being rough ridin' stupid.

Exactly. I don't see the need for the government to continue wasting time protecting people from their own stupidity. Kind of a Darwin type deal here.

I'd imagine the biggest problem they have is the way that it's marketed.

[pissclams]

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both. 

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

It's 12% alcohol in a 24 ounce can.  What's the alcohol content of a rum and coke?    <-Which to me is even more dangerous.

a drink = a beer = a glass of wine.  they're all the same.

rum and coke generally doesn't come in 24 oz cans marketed at younger drinkers nor does it come in Grape, Fruit Punch, Orange Blend, Watermelon, Blue Raspberry, Lemon Lime, Lemonade, and Cranberry Lemonade flavors. 

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

the FDA is looking at premade drinks that have caffeine in them, not drinks that people put caffeine in. 

 The gov's position on all this should be:  Everyone should stop being rough ridin' stupid, but if you are being rough ridin' stupid don't expect to not have to throw up and go to the hospital.  Also, quit being rough ridin' stupid.

Exactly. I don't see the need for the government to continue wasting time protecting people from their own stupidity. Kind of a Darwin type deal here.

I'd imagine the biggest problem they have is the way that it's marketed.

The problem is that these types of drinks are marketed at kids who really don't know any better and they are dangerous.  More dangerous than a 1.75 of Jack? Yes,  because they are a hell of a lot easier to drink than Jack.   There's really no need for this type of drink to be on the market.

[jtksu]

The stuff is heavily marketed towards Mexicans.  Clearly, the feds don't want those guys getting all geared up.