PacTen Expansion Talk... Colorado and Utah

[sonofdaxjones]

KK nails it on Texas . . . they won't have anywhere close to the control outside of the Big 12.

Arkansas isn't leaving the SEC. 

Missouri clamors for the Big 10, because everytime they look in the mirror they say underachievement, and they want a new mirror.

[CNS]

TCU would be an obvious candidate to join the Big 12.  People like to throw Arkansas out there, but I don't see any way they leave the SEC.  Memphis could be an intriguing option, especially if the conference wanted to move to an East/West alignment.  Memphis would be a nice, if not huge, TV market to bring into the conference.

if the big 12 ever needs more schools, memphis and louisville make sense.  tcu brings nothing to the big 12.  the big 12 brings nothing to arkansas.  expanding west makes no sense.

I would love for Louisville and Memphis too.  However, Memphis would bring nothing in FB.  Money wise, that is a big deal.

[SleepFighter]

TCU would be an obvious candidate to join the Big 12.  People like to throw Arkansas out there, but I don't see any way they leave the SEC.  Memphis could be an intriguing option, especially if the conference wanted to move to an East/West alignment.  Memphis would be a nice, if not huge, TV market to bring into the conference.

if the big 12 ever needs more schools, memphis and louisville make sense.  tcu brings nothing to the big 12.  the big 12 brings nothing to arkansas.  expanding west makes no sense.

I would love for Louisville and Memphis too.  However, Memphis would bring nothing in FB.  Money wise, that is a big deal.

They bring a new TV market.  Much bigger deal than adding a decent team in a market the Big 12 already dominates.

[OregonSmock]

Memphis is going to the Big East once Pitt goes to the Big 10.  Seriously, TCU is a no-brainer to the Big 12 if Colorado leaves.  Oklahoma moves to the North and competes with Texas in the Big 12 title instead of battling it out in the Big 12 South.  You can take it to the bank. 

[SleepFighter]

Memphis is going to the Big East once Pitt goes to the Big 10.  Seriously, TCU is a no-brainer to the Big 12 if Colorado leaves.  Oklahoma moves to the North and competes with Texas in the Big 12 title instead of battling it out in the Big 12 South.  You can take it to the bank. 

sys is much smarter than you.  You should listen to him.

[OregonSmock]

Memphis is going to the Big East once Pitt goes to the Big 10.  Seriously, TCU is a no-brainer to the Big 12 if Colorado leaves.  Oklahoma moves to the North and competes with Texas in the Big 12 title instead of battling it out in the Big 12 South.  You can take it to the bank. 

sys is much smarter than you.  You should listen to him.

Louisville and Memphis make absolutely no sense, especially geographically.  Nice to know you cling to sys' nutsack like an in-grown nut hair, though. 

[scottwildcat]

Memphis is going to the Big East once Pitt goes to the Big 10.  Seriously, TCU is a no-brainer to the Big 12 if Colorado leaves.  Oklahoma moves to the North and competes with Texas in the Big 12 title instead of battling it out in the Big 12 South.  You can take it to the bank. 

there is no rough ridin' way in the mother rough ridin' world that OU would move to the north and ever risk not having the Red River Rivalry or w/e the eff they call it people who say this are beyond dumb to the point of pure stupidity, you'd have to try to say dumber things. if any schools leave the new school would be a north team if the geography agrees or not. any one who thinks OU will move to the north should jump off a bridge NOW because the world would be a lot less dumb w/o you

[OregonSmock]

Memphis is going to the Big East once Pitt goes to the Big 10.  Seriously, TCU is a no-brainer to the Big 12 if Colorado leaves.  Oklahoma moves to the North and competes with Texas in the Big 12 title instead of battling it out in the Big 12 South.  You can take it to the bank. 

there is no fracking way in the mother fracking world that OU would move to the north and ever risk not having the Red River Rivalry or w/e the shazbot! they call it people who say this are beyond dumb to the point of pure stupidity, you'd have to try to say dumber things. if any schools leave the new school would be a north team if the geography agrees or not. any one who thinks OU will move to the north should jump off a bridge NOW because the world would be a lot less dumb w/o you

It's been talked about quite a bit, actually.  You really think Oklahoma and Texas like battling with each other every season just for a spot in the Big 12 title against some sh*tty North opponent? 

[scottwildcat]

Memphis is going to the Big East once Pitt goes to the Big 10.  Seriously, TCU is a no-brainer to the Big 12 if Colorado leaves.  Oklahoma moves to the North and competes with Texas in the Big 12 title instead of battling it out in the Big 12 South.  You can take it to the bank. 

there is no fracking way in the mother fracking world that OU would move to the north and ever risk not having the Red River Rivalry or w/e the shazbot! they call it people who say this are beyond dumb to the point of pure stupidity, you'd have to try to say dumber things. if any schools leave the new school would be a north team if the geography agrees or not. any one who thinks OU will move to the north should jump off a bridge NOW because the world would be a lot less dumb w/o you

It's been talked about quite a bit, actually.  You really think Oklahoma and Texas like battling with each other every season just for a spot in the Big 12 title against some sh*tty North opponent? 

won't ever happen the RRR will never be broken up it will always be played in Dallas and it will always be during the Texas State Fair. Anyone who truly honestly thinks different has an IQ lower than the either of MorrisTwins

[OregonSmock]

If the Big 12 adds TCU, one of the Oklahoma schools will move to the North.  This isn't the first time it's been discussed. 

[jtksu]

Memphis is going to the Big East once Pitt goes to the Big 10.  Seriously, TCU is a no-brainer to the Big 12 if Colorado leaves.  Oklahoma moves to the North and competes with Texas in the Big 12 title instead of battling it out in the Big 12 South.  You can take it to the bank. 

there is no fracking way in the mother fracking world that OU would move to the north and ever risk not having the Red River Rivalry or w/e the shazbot! they call it people who say this are beyond dumb to the point of pure stupidity, you'd have to try to say dumber things. if any schools leave the new school would be a north team if the geography agrees or not. any one who thinks OU will move to the north should jump off a bridge NOW because the world would be a lot less dumb w/o you

It's been talked about quite a bit, actually.  You really think Oklahoma and Texas like battling with each other every season just for a spot in the Big 12 title against some sh*tty North opponent? 

Yes, I think they like playing each other every year very much.  Can you imagine the meltdown from the boosters of both schools if they stopped the rivalry?  You may personally prefer to run away from challenges (deleting your account/ disappearing for months at a time) but not everyone is a giant pussy like you.

[mcmwcat]

dear idiots, the RRR was played for how many years when both schools were in separate conferences?  or did that rivalry game just start 14 years ago

[jtksu]

dear idiots, the RRR was played for how many years when both schools were in separate conferences?  or did that rivalry game just start 14 years ago

They still played each other every year.  If they move to separate divisions, they would only play each other 2/4 years.  Idiot.

[SleepFighter]

Memphis is going to the Big East once Pitt goes to the Big 10.  Seriously, TCU is a no-brainer to the Big 12 if Colorado leaves.  Oklahoma moves to the North and competes with Texas in the Big 12 title instead of battling it out in the Big 12 South.  You can take it to the bank.  

sys is much smarter than you.  You should listen to him.

Louisville and Memphis make absolutely no sense, especially geographically.  Nice to know you cling to sys' nutsack like an in-grown nut hair, though.  

Not an evaluation of sys's intelligence so much as yours.

TCU has an enrollment of less than 9000.  They have a basketball team that is 11-13 in the MWC that plays in an arena that seats just over 7000.

Their football team is good, but they would not improve the conference's leverage in TV negotiations in the slightest.  They can't even come close to selling out the stadium they have, so no new revenue there.

In other words sys was right on.  TCU brings nothing to the table for the Big 12.  They would make for a terrible addition.  


Looking east makes sense, as population density is much higher in that direction.  Increases leverage for TV contracts, puts Big 12 schools in front of new recruiting areas.

As for how much geographic sense it makes, WGAF?

[jtksu]

If the Big 12 adds TCU, one of the Oklahoma schools will move to the North.  This isn't the first time it's been discussed. 

So, either the Red River game gets axed for 2 out of every 4 years, or Bedlam does.  Not gonna happen.

[mcmwcat]

dear idiots, the RRR was played for how many years when both schools were in separate conferences?  or did that rivalry game just start 14 years ago

They still played each other every year.  If they move to separate divisions, they would only play each other 2/4 years.  Idiot.

thought we're talking about moving Texas to another conference not another division.

[OregonSmock]

If the Big 12 adds TCU, one of the Oklahoma schools will move to the North.  This isn't the first time it's been discussed. 

So, either the Red River game gets axed for 2 out of every 4 years, or Bedlam does.  Not gonna happen.

The Oklahoma/Nebraska game used to be a huge rivalry that was played every season in the Big Eight conference.  Things change. 

[scottwildcat]

dear idiots, the RRR was played for how many years when both schools were in separate conferences?  or did that rivalry game just start 14 years ago

They still played each other every year.  If they move to separate divisions, they would only play each other 2/4 years.  Idiot.

thought we're talking about moving Texas to another conference not another division.

no, BMW and other <6 IQ folks think OU or OSU would  get moved to the Big XII North if CU or MU leave and we add TCU (also will never happen)

If the Big 12 adds TCU, one of the Oklahoma schools will move to the North.  This isn't the first time it's been discussed.  

So, either the Red River game gets axed for 2 out of every 4 years, or Bedlam does.  Not gonna happen.

fact, who ever joins will be a Big XII North member 'nuff said  

[jtksu]

dear idiots, the RRR was played for how many years when both schools were in separate conferences?  or did that rivalry game just start 14 years ago

They still played each other every year.  If they move to separate divisions, they would only play each other 2/4 years.  Idiot.

thought we're talking about moving Texas to another conference not another division.

Nah, talking about OU moving to the north.

[OregonSmock]

There's a much higher probability of TCU joining the Big 12 than someone like Louisville.  Again, just my opinion.  Would be great if we could have discussions on here without making personal attacks. 

[scottwildcat]

If the Big 12 adds TCU, one of the Oklahoma schools will move to the North.  This isn't the first time it's been discussed. 

So, either the Red River game gets axed for 2 out of every 4 years, or Bedlam does.  Not gonna happen.

The Oklahoma/Nebraska game used to be a huge rivalry that was played every season in the Big Eight conference.  Things change. 

OUvN<OU v OSU<OU v UT

 

[jtksu]

If the Big 12 adds TCU, one of the Oklahoma schools will move to the North.  This isn't the first time it's been discussed. 

So, either the Red River game gets axed for 2 out of every 4 years, or Bedlam does.  Not gonna happen.

The Oklahoma/Nebraska game used to be a huge rivalry that was played every season in the Big Eight conference.  Things change. 

Was it the 3rd biggest rivalry in history?  No.  Is the Red River?  Yes.  Are you dumb?  Yes.

[jtksu]

There's a much higher probability of TCU joining the Big 12 than someone like Louisville.  Again, just my opinion.  Would be great if we could have discussions on here without making personal attacks. 

Would be great if you ever actually predicted one single thing correctly, but we just humor you anyway.

[OregonSmock]

There's a much higher probability of TCU joining the Big 12 than someone like Louisville.  Again, just my opinion.  Would be great if we could have discussions on here without making personal attacks. 

Would be great if you ever actually predicted one single thing correctly, but we just humor you anyway.

Good grief, dude.  What are you so angry about?   

[SleepFighter]

There's a much higher probability of TCU joining the Big 12 than someone like Louisville.  Again, just my opinion.  Would be great if we could have discussions on here without making personal attacks. 

Ingrown nut hair is a term of endearment then?