PacTen Expansion Talk... Colorado and Utah

[Havs]

What does the possibility of CU leaving do to the Big 12?

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/09/pac-10-to-undergo-a-ute-movement/

[canadian_breeze]

Big 9? (Minus ku and mu also)

[BigCat]

hmm. Would hate it if Utah joined the PAC 10 but would only be mildly bummed if CU did. CU would be more at home academically with the likes of USC, UCLA, UWash, etc. They definitely belong with the elite.

[OregonSmock]

The Big 12 adds TCU, and Oklahoma goes to the Big 12 North.

[kst8cat]

The article states that if CU were to leave, BYU would be the likely candidate to fill their slot in the Big 12.  That seems odd to me considering the distance.  Colorado State would seem a more logical choice in some ways, but is CSU really too small to carry their own weight in the Big 12?  (TV sets, enrollment, revenue contribution, sports competitiveness, etc.)

[PowercatPat]

The article states that if CU were to leave, BYU would be the likely candidate to fill their slot in the Big 12.  That seems odd to me considering the distance.  Colorado State would seem a more logical choice in some ways, but is CSU really too small to carry their own weight in the Big 12?  (TV sets, enrollment, revenue contribution, sports competitiveness, etc.)

BYU will never join the Big 12.

[michigancat]

these are the dumbest conversations.

[scottwildcat]

there isn't a single south team that'd join the north anyone who says so is dumb beyond belief there will never be a split of TX OU in football then there are rivalries w/ the other schools people wouldn't want to break up. if a North team leaves ie CU to Pac10 MU to Big 10 we'll add a team and they will be in the north division no matter where there geographic location is 

[Kat Kid]

People realize these stupid rumors are like really old, right?

[chum1]

Does anyone think it would be a good idea for us to join the Mountain West?  We could kind of beat everyone to the punch here, you know?

[OK_Cat]

Does anyone think it would be a good idea for us to join the Mountain West?  We could kind of beat everyone to the punch here, you know?

MEH!

Conf-USA.  Instant rivalry with Tulsa.  Win/Win.

[doom]

So the Pac-10 would have 12 schools who could not earn an at-large tourney bid instead of 10?  Good call.

[BigCat]

I actually think we should go back to a Big 8. Not 'the' Big 8 but the way it should be now. Would require a complicated shift but in the end, CU could be with the rest of the west coast academic/cultural elite, ISU could get back to old rivalries in the MVC, KU to the Southland Conf., Missouri with the new Big 14, etc. Everybody would be where they fit in.

[Dirty Sanchez]

uk could join the ivy imaginary league

[jtksu]

The Big 12 adds TCU, and Oklahoma goes to the Big 12 North.

Kinda doubt they would break up the red river shootout thingy they got going since they've been playing every year for like a century and all.

[The42Yardstick]

Yeah plus TCU bball probably couldn't even beat any of the Nortards so I doubt the Big 12 would really spring on that. Great baseball tho

[SuperG]

these are the dumbest conversations.

Have no fear MI'Cat. Luckily for goEMAW.com, it's a new bbs and it should be at least another couple of months before it runs out of posts. I think these things come standard with like 200,000 before you have to refill them.

[HugeUpside]

Does anyone think it would be a good idea for us to join the Mountain West?  We could kind of beat everyone to the punch here, you know?

MEH!

Conf-USA.  Instant rivalry with Tulsa.  Win/Win.

Especially the part where we lose to Tulsa every year.   

[slucat]

Add TCU, move TT to the North.

[sonofdaxjones]

MU to Big 10 . . . is about 30 to 35 years old.

CU to Pac 10 is about 15-20 years old.

[kst8cat]

MU to Big 10 . . . is about 30 to 35 years old.

CU to Pac 10 is about 15-20 years old.

How old is Texas to Pac 10?  At least 10 probably.

[sonofdaxjones]

Texas to Pac-10, Big 10 and SEC is about 10 years old.

[slimz]

The Big 12 adds TCU, and Oklahoma goes to the Big 12 North.

Why add Oklahoma when Oklahoma State is the northern-most South school?     If we're going to do away with geographical logic, then it's time for a massive overhaul of alignment.

The article states that if CU were to leave, BYU would be the likely candidate to fill their slot in the Big 12.  That seems odd to me considering the distance.  Colorado State would seem a more logical choice in some ways, but is CSU really too small to carry their own weight in the Big 12?  (TV sets, enrollment, revenue contribution, sports competitiveness, etc.)

Colorado State does not have the facilities, resources, or financial backing to join the Big 12.  They're struggling just to keep up with the schools in the Mountain West.

Colorado and Missouri appear to be the two most likely candidates to leave, which is probably why they're always the ones discussed whenever this topic rolls around again.  They each have a "natural" geographical fit with another major conference.

TCU would be an obvious candidate to join the Big 12.  People like to throw Arkansas out there, but I don't see any way they leave the SEC.  Memphis could be an intriguing option, especially if the conference wanted to move to an East/West alignment.  Memphis would be a nice, if not huge, TV market to bring into the conference. 

Texas' desire to leave the Big 12 will always be complicated by the other Texas schools.  Remember that the only way the Big 12 was allowed by Texas politicos was by including Baylor.  aTm, Tech, and Baylor have enough clout to probably ensure that Texas doesn't leave them screwed with the remaining Big 12 schools.

[Kat Kid]

The Big 12 adds TCU, and Oklahoma goes to the Big 12 North.

Why add Oklahoma when Oklahoma State is the northern-most South school?     If we're going to do away with geographical logic, then it's time for a massive overhaul of alignment.

The article states that if CU were to leave, BYU would be the likely candidate to fill their slot in the Big 12.  That seems odd to me considering the distance.  Colorado State would seem a more logical choice in some ways, but is CSU really too small to carry their own weight in the Big 12?  (TV sets, enrollment, revenue contribution, sports competitiveness, etc.)

Colorado State does not have the facilities, resources, or financial backing to join the Big 12.  They're struggling just to keep up with the schools in the Mountain West.

Colorado and Missouri appear to be the two most likely candidates to leave, which is probably why they're always the ones discussed whenever this topic rolls around again.  They each have a "natural" geographical fit with another major conference.

TCU would be an obvious candidate to join the Big 12.  People like to throw Arkansas out there, but I don't see any way they leave the SEC.  Memphis could be an intriguing option, especially if the conference wanted to move to an East/West alignment.  Memphis would be a nice, if not huge, TV market to bring into the conference. 

Texas' desire to leave the Big 12 will always be complicated by the other Texas schools.  Remember that the only way the Big 12 was allowed by Texas politicos was by including Baylor.  aTm, Tech, and Baylor have enough clout to probably ensure that Texas doesn't leave them screwed with the remaining Big 12 schools.

Also, somewhat unclear why UT would want to relinquish the amount of control/influence/dominance they have over Big 12 to move to Pac-10/SEC.

[sys]

TCU would be an obvious candidate to join the Big 12.  People like to throw Arkansas out there, but I don't see any way they leave the SEC.  Memphis could be an intriguing option, especially if the conference wanted to move to an East/West alignment.  Memphis would be a nice, if not huge, TV market to bring into the conference.

if the big 12 ever needs more schools, memphis and louisville make sense.  tcu brings nothing to the big 12.  the big 12 brings nothing to arkansas.  expanding west makes no sense.