Official dem excuse thread

[sonofdaxjones]

Obama was a "knee jerk reaction" . . . fantastic.

I mean if they're going to propagate perpetual war and still run secret prisons . . . just admit it.

[CNS]

midterm elections + economy.  Not sure why you want a meltdown.

I think he's disappointed that the Republican's "permanent majority" that was being talked about in 2004 lasted a whole two years.

 


Actually, I mean every time the dems lose, its not because of their message, its "Republican dirty tricks," "we didn't voice our message effectively," or something else lame.  Never, "The people aren't radical leftists and don't want any of our  "

This is every time any political party loses.  Trade the party name, same statements. 

[mortons toe]

from a couple of my uber-lib friends on fbook...

Bush was the first president in history to implement budgets that crossed the $2 trillion a year and $3 trillion a year marks. I don't understand why people think BUSH'S party will do better after only 2 years?! American's have the memory span of a GOLD FISH! Obama has done SO MUCH - check it out! whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com

What really blows my mind is that there statistically must be people that voted FOR Obama, and now two years later voted Republican. I really wish I could hear a few of them rationalize that.

I know, right? How could they justify that 2 years is enough time to get us out of this cluster-f#&% that the last administration got us into? Where are all the rational, reasonable people?!

classic!

[sonofdaxjones]

I am still waiting for the First Liberal to stand up and admit that the Democratic party has controlled congress and thus the nations purse strings and oversight bodies for the last FIVE years . . . it tells you exactly where their minds are at . . . they now consider the Executive Branch the centerpiece of power in government, and thus we now apparently have a dictatorial/monarchical presidency (and there may be some truth to that, but not in terms of overall fiscal policy and oversight of regulatory entities . . . yet).

It seems like many in our country need a remedial review of the 3 branches of government and their responsiblities and powers. 

[LickNeckey]

most dem's stayed home to see hoe the prop 19 vote was progressing 

[Cire]

How are you guys spending your xmas bonuses?

[06wildcat]

midterm elections + economy.  Not sure why you want a meltdown.

I think he's disappointed that the Republican's "permanent majority" that was being talked about in 2004 lasted a whole two years.

 


Actually, I mean every time the dems lose, its not because of their message, its "Republican dirty tricks," "we didn't voice our message effectively," or something else lame.  Never, "The people aren't radical leftists and don't want any of our  "

Except it was Karl Rove touting the permanent Republican majority in 04, you know a White House insider that was talking about all the political capital Georgie had just won. Not a pundit. But yeah, they're the same thing.

[Havs]

Is the fact that Chet Culver was my governor a good enough excuse??
 

[Sugar Dick]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101105/ap_on_bi_ge/us_obama_election_retrospective

It's not that our ideas are terrible, it's that we didn't execute our "message". (I believe "message" is a lib catch-all phrase for propaganda, rhetoric, and lies)

[Dirty Sanchez]

although this being America, there’s an attendant hatred for Obama that has more to do with race than anything else.

THAT'S RACIST!!!!111!1!!1

A distinguished colleague of mine likens the wiggy mood of the nation to that of a hormonal teenager. What do you call an electorate that seems prone to acting out irrationally, is full of inchoate rage, and is constantly throwing fits and tantrums? You call it teenaged.

OMG! tanrums!

http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2010/12/graydon-201012


 

[Big Sam]

Resident dems either post yours, or others post ridiculous spinning excuses you hear. (Didn't pkg message right, America is racist, etc.)

Well, Obama pulled the famed Lakoff excuse - the Dems just didn't communicate well enough about how awesome they were (this from the greatest communicator that has ever lived according to the press).  Well, either that or Americans are ungrateful and stupid.

I prefer that the thought that the sun got in the eyes of the democrat leadership and they missed the ball...

Sam S.

[Dugout DickStone]

I'm just excited that the economy will now be fixed.

Why didn't BO do that?

[Havs]

I'm just excited that the economy will now be fixed.

Why didn't BO do that?

Why didn't GWB do that?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I'm just excited that the economy will now be fixed.

Why didn't BO do that?

Why didn't GWB do that?

Because Pelosi,  Reid, & Company controlled congress? 

[Sugar Dick]

I'm just excited that the economy will now be fixed.

Why didn't BO do that?

Why didn't GWB do that?

He did, 3 times

1. dotcom bubble
2. 9/11
3. enron/worldcom


I'll reiterate, anyone who thinks W and the repubs were the sole cause of the current recession are absolutely delusional. 

[Paul Moscow]

I'm just excited that the economy will now be fixed.

Why didn't BO do that?

Why didn't GWB do that?

He did, 3 times

1. dotcom bubble
2. 9/11
3. enron/worldcom


I'll reiterate, anyone who thinks W and the repubs were the sole cause of the current recession are absolutely delusional. 

First of all, the recession ended in July of 2009. Keep in mind the definition of a recession before informing me about the woeful state of the economy, etc.

Secondly, of the three things you list, 2 of them led directly to the causes that pulled the rug out from under our feet.

[Sugar Dick]

I'm just excited that the economy will now be fixed.

Why didn't BO do that?

Why didn't GWB do that?

He did, 3 times

1. dotcom bubble
2. 9/11
3. enron/worldcom


I'll reiterate, anyone who thinks W and the repubs were the sole cause of the current recession are absolutely delusional. 

First of all, the recession ended in July of 2009. Keep in mind the definition of a recession before informing me about the woeful state of the economy, etc.
I think the subtopic is "fixed" economy, not GDP growth

Secondly, of the three things you list, 2 of them led directly to the causes that pulled the rug out from under our feet.

I'm listening . . . please elaborate

[Paul Moscow]

In essence, the Federal Reserve went overboard in an attempt to stave off a severe recession in 2001 in the wake of 9/11 and the dot-com bust. Because of the way the economy works (it takes time for these things to make their way through a capitalist economy as large as ours) much of the pain we should have faced then was simply delayed until recently.

The open market operations, including the injection of money into the US banking system, lowering of the federal funds rate and interest rates increased dramatically the supply of money which due to government and political pressure found its way into housing. Once the bubble burst and the mortgage meltdown turned into a financial crisis with the banks (distributors of the newly injected money) it culminated in severe recession we've experienced.

[theKSU]

In essence, the Federal Reserve went overboard in an attempt to stave off a severe recession in 2001 in the wake of 9/11 and the dot-com bust. Because of the way the economy works (it takes time for these things to make their way through a capitalist economy as large as ours) much of the pain we should have faced then was simply delayed until recently.

The open market operations, including the injection of money into the US banking system, lowering of the federal funds rate and interest rates increased dramatically the supply of money which due to government and political pressure found its way into housing. Once the bubble burst and the mortgage meltdown turned into a financial crisis with the banks (distributors of the newly injected money) it culminated in severe recession we've experienced.

That's Communist Talk.  END THE FED NOW!!  Rand Paul for Prez!

[Sugar Dick]

In essence, the Federal Reserve went overboard in an attempt to stave off a severe recession in 2001 in the wake of 9/11 and the dot-com bust. Because of the way the economy works (it takes time for these things to make their way through a capitalist economy as large as ours) much of the pain we should have faced then was simply delayed until recently.

The open market operations, including the injection of money into the US banking system, lowering of the federal funds rate and interest rates increased dramatically the supply of money which due to government and political pressure found its way into housing. Once the bubble burst and the mortgage meltdown turned into a financial crisis with the banks (distributors of the newly injected money) it culminated in severe recession we've experienced.

George W Bush =/ Alan Greenspan

[Paul Moscow]

In essence, the Federal Reserve went overboard in an attempt to stave off a severe recession in 2001 in the wake of 9/11 and the dot-com bust. Because of the way the economy works (it takes time for these things to make their way through a capitalist economy as large as ours) much of the pain we should have faced then was simply delayed until recently.

The open market operations, including the injection of money into the US banking system, lowering of the federal funds rate and interest rates increased dramatically the supply of money which due to government and political pressure found its way into housing. Once the bubble burst and the mortgage meltdown turned into a financial crisis with the banks (distributors of the newly injected money) it culminated in severe recession we've experienced.

George W Bush =/ Alan Greenspan

Nope.

But you made that assertion when you claimed that Bush "saved" the US economy on at least three separate occasions.  You're completely lost Sugar Dick.

[Sugar Dick]

In essence, the Federal Reserve went overboard in an attempt to stave off a severe recession in 2001 in the wake of 9/11 and the dot-com bust. Because of the way the economy works (it takes time for these things to make their way through a capitalist economy as large as ours) much of the pain we should have faced then was simply delayed until recently.

The open market operations, including the injection of money into the US banking system, lowering of the federal funds rate and interest rates increased dramatically the supply of money which due to government and political pressure found its way into housing. Once the bubble burst and the mortgage meltdown turned into a financial crisis with the banks (distributors of the newly injected money) it culminated in severe recession we've experienced.

George W Bush =/ Alan Greenspan

Nope.

But you made that assertion when you claimed that Bush "saved" the US economy on at least three separate occasions.  You're completely lost Sugar Dick.

Wow, I forgot I said the Fed saved the economy originally.  Oh wait, that was you trying to say the Fed ruined the economy.  Strawman, dipshit

[Paul Moscow]

In essence, the Federal Reserve went overboard in an attempt to stave off a severe recession in 2001 in the wake of 9/11 and the dot-com bust. Because of the way the economy works (it takes time for these things to make their way through a capitalist economy as large as ours) much of the pain we should have faced then was simply delayed until recently.

The open market operations, including the injection of money into the US banking system, lowering of the federal funds rate and interest rates increased dramatically the supply of money which due to government and political pressure found its way into housing. Once the bubble burst and the mortgage meltdown turned into a financial crisis with the banks (distributors of the newly injected money) it culminated in severe recession we've experienced.

George W Bush =/ Alan Greenspan

Nope.

But you made that assertion when you claimed that Bush "saved" the US economy on at least three separate occasions.  You're completely lost Sugar Dick.

Wow, I forgot I said the Fed saved the economy originally.  Oh wait, that was you trying to say the Fed ruined the economy.  Strawman, dipcac

Oh, right. George Bush (or any president for that matter) definitely has enough clout to completely save or ruin the US economy. Please oh please tell me what George Bush did to save the US economy on three separate occasions Sugar Dick.

[Sugar Dick]

In essence, the Federal Reserve went overboard in an attempt to stave off a severe recession in 2001 in the wake of 9/11 and the dot-com bust. Because of the way the economy works (it takes time for these things to make their way through a capitalist economy as large as ours) much of the pain we should have faced then was simply delayed until recently.

The open market operations, including the injection of money into the US banking system, lowering of the federal funds rate and interest rates increased dramatically the supply of money which due to government and political pressure found its way into housing. Once the bubble burst and the mortgage meltdown turned into a financial crisis with the banks (distributors of the newly injected money) it culminated in severe recession we've experienced.

George W Bush =/ Alan Greenspan

Nope.

But you made that assertion when you claimed that Bush "saved" the US economy on at least three separate occasions.  You're completely lost Sugar Dick.

Wow, I forgot I said the Fed saved the economy originally.  Oh wait, that was you trying to say the Fed ruined the economy.  Strawman, dipcac

Oh, right. George Bush (or any president for that matter) definitely has enough clout to completely save or ruin the US economy. Please oh please tell me what George Bush did to save the US economy on three separate occasions Sugar Dick.

Man, what could the most powerful man in the world do to help the U.S. economy???  I guess yesterdays solution is today's million dollar question.   

Do a little leg work yourself, you're flailing, cluemaster.

[Paul Moscow]

Only asking you to back up your claim, Sparticus. I'd be more than willing to debate with you if you could provide any counter-arguments. If you can't do it maybe you shouldn't post with such authority or just shouldn't post at all.