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Offense tonight
« on: October 14, 2010, 09:55:26 AM »
I didn't focus on the offense in _FANalysis this week, but after going back and rewatching much of the NU game, I really think the offense will have a big game tonight.  The loss of Smith is a concern, but the encouraging thing is that unlike the past two games, we should have an advantage up front (probably on both sides of the ball) and IMO that means Thomas will have a big night, but also Quarles/Thompson and perhaps one of the TEs.

In rewatching the NU game, we really had some nice wrinkles in the first part of the game, but NU's defense was just too good for us to get much done, especially Lavonte David.  David made a number of incredible plays and KU has no one on the field with the abilty of David.  But I'm not sure any defensive player we face this year will have the abilities that David possesses.  Plus, NU has one of the best secondaries in the country and although probably not dominant, they have a very solid defensive line.  All of this allowed NU to play us pretty much straight up, using at most 6 or 7 in the box mixed with some secondary blitzes.  We had plenty of play calls to take advantage of this from NU, but we simply couldn't handle David on many of those and NU's secondary made it tough to throw.

That said, the spread looks we gave, utilizing Thomas in the passing game, and the short passing game allowed us to move the ball decently early in the game, even though we failed to finish drives.  I firmly belive that a lot of the play calls that led to short gains vs Nebraska, will lead to big plays against Kansas.  I expect our power running game to create large holes and KU will struggle with Thomas cutbacks off of our inside zone running game.  Play action should also lead to some wide open looks as well.  And looking at the Baylor game, KU really struggled in coverages, not just match-up wise, but they had multiple major coverage breakdowns that were scheme problems as well.  I fully expect us to take advantage of those.  We will add wrinkles, but we shouldn't have to do anything way out of the ordinary to move the ball effectively against this defense, which is probably the worst defense in the Big 12. (Yes, even worse than ours)

To me it will really come down to not making mistakes offensively, namely Thomas putting the ball on the ground or poor reads/ passes by Coffman or whoever plays QB tonight.  If we don't score in the high 20s/low 30s I will be very surprised.


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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2010, 09:56:44 AM »
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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2010, 10:12:13 AM »
but i wanted to beat nu, not ku.  :angry:

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2010, 10:14:08 AM »
uk's defense is terrible, I think we'll push them around in the running game.  Still worried about hitting the invisible wall at the 30 though

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2010, 10:14:44 AM »
but i wanted to beat nu, not ku.  :angry:

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2010, 10:16:42 AM »
but i wanted to beat nu, not ku.  :angry:

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2010, 10:21:48 AM »
but i wanted to beat nu, not ku.  :angry:

NU is really, really good.

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2010, 10:40:53 AM »
Rumblings that the playbook will finally be opened.  Old Balls was holding back even during the Nebraska game, that crafty devil.

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2010, 10:41:34 AM »
Rumblings that the playbook will finally be opened.  Old Balls was holding back even during the Nebraska game, that crafty devil.

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2010, 10:42:14 AM »
What if it's Lamur?!

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2010, 10:44:24 AM »
Offensive football can be made so simple for QBs...

It's bewildering, the way we treat Carson Coffman.

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2010, 10:44:58 AM »
Rumblings that the playbook will finally be opened.  Old Balls was holding back even during the Nebraska game, that crafty devil.

So, how long until our fan base realizes that this year's play book is a single 4x6 index card, front and back?

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2010, 10:46:25 AM »
Rumblings that the playbook will finally be opened.  Old Balls was holding back even during the Nebraska game, that crafty devil.

So, how long until our fan base realizes that this year's play book is a single 4x6 index card, front and back?

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2010, 10:47:28 AM »
Rumblings that the playbook will finally be opened.  Old Balls was holding back even during the Nebraska game, that crafty devil.

So, how long until our fan base realizes that this year's play book is a single 4x6 index card, front and back?

Its not. 

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2010, 10:48:33 AM »
Sounds like it won't even be fair tonight.  A lot of people in the press box are expecting the techmo bowl offense.

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2010, 10:53:01 AM »
Rumblings that the playbook will finally be opened.  Old Balls was holding back even during the Nebraska game, that crafty devil.

So, how long until our fan base realizes that this year's play book is a single 4x6 index card, front and back?

Its not. 


Italics, people....italics.  I was just taking a shot at that whole Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) talking point.  We will be able to move the ball tonight.

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2010, 11:01:06 AM »
Props to _Fan for rewatching the NU game.  Very brave (or sadistic) man.  

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2010, 11:03:35 AM »
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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2010, 11:09:41 AM »
:runrunpasspunt:

We had one (1) 3 and out vs Nebraska, probably the best defense we'll see all year. Just sayin'.

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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2010, 11:13:15 AM »
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We had one (1) 3 and out vs Nebraska, probably the best defense we'll see all year. Just sayin'.

I know. I know.

I just want to see one trick play aside from an abortion of a fake field goal. I know it's low FBIQ, but goddammit, I want to see one. JUST ONE! :bawl:

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2010, 11:17:11 AM »
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We had one (1) 3 and out vs Nebraska, probably the best defense we'll see all year. Just sayin'.

Very interesting stat.  Would not have guessed that.

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2010, 11:18:18 AM »
Play action should also lead to some wide open looks as well.

Like how open our receivers are matters at all to this team.

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2010, 11:20:18 AM »
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We had one (1) 3 and out vs Nebraska, probably the best defense we'll see all year. Just sayin'.

Very interesting stat.  Would not have guessed that.

We had some really nice starts to drives and some nice play calling.  We would just get to a point where we'd have a bad snap and we couldn't overcome it.  I simply don't think KU will do that to us consistently.  A few drives, yes, but we should be able to move and score.  I think this game could play out similar to the ISU game, and as long as we avoid a play like the pick 6 Coffman threw, we should win comfortably.  I just am having a hard time not being confident that we'll win this game.

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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2010, 11:23:00 AM »
I wish I shared in this optimism. Our offense is complete dog crap. I would be happy with 20 points and hope KU shits the bed again.
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Re: Offense tonight
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2010, 11:33:16 AM »
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We had one (1) 3 and out vs Nebraska, probably the best defense we'll see all year. Just sayin'.

Very interesting stat.  Would not have guessed that.

We had some really nice starts to drives and some nice play calling.  We would just get to a point where we'd have a bad snap and we couldn't overcome it.  I simply don't think KU will do that to us consistently.  A few drives, yes, but we should be able to move and score.  I think this game could play out similar to the ISU game, and as long as we avoid a play like the pick 6 Coffman threw, we should win comfortably.  I just am having a hard time not being confident that we'll win this game.

It is frustrating how small our margin of error is on sustaining drives.  It seems like our ability to convert on third downs of over 5 yards is minimal.  I would like to see us throw it on first down more but I think its hard to when our offense needs almost all three downs to get ten yards.  I think we will move the ball ok tonight but I have little faith that we can hold them to less than four scores.
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