Turner Gill guarantees victory over exposed Wildcats

[Panjandrum]

Yeah KUs defense is gross.  UCF and NU were able to stack the box because they are fast and physical, KU is neither.  Stacking the box means nothing if you are constantly getting trucked.  It's also worth noting that KU has yet to see a physical rushing attack.  I consider GTs run game a finesse attack.

Great point.  I'm sure the 10s of KU football fans will be pointing to their GT win as evidence that they can stop a running team, but you are correct that stopping the flexbone triple option is much different than stopping our multiple scheme running attack.  We should be able to have success on the ground, and hopefully set up some big plays in the passing game, similar to against CFU.  Now, I hope it doesn't take us 3 quarters to get the ground game going like it did in that game.  Honestly it shouldn't, CFU likely has a much more talented defense than KU does.

Well, I highly doubt that we'll focus on double teaming any of their defensive ends and allowing our interior line to go one on one with smaller, more athletic defensive tackles like we did against UCF.

My guess is that we'll see a lot of rushing between the tackles and zone stretch plays where our line can just try to push them off of the LOS, let DT break a tackle and get free for a bigger gain.

Honestly, I'd pretty much mimic the entire offensive gameplan from the ISU game.

[_33]

We're probably better than KU, and we should win, but we're going to lose.   

[Pete]

Smokin' hot Xing and Oing in this thread folks...

[06wildcat]

Yeah KUs defense is gross.  UCF and NU were able to stack the box because they are fast and physical, KU is neither.  Stacking the box means nothing if you are constantly getting trucked.  It's also worth noting that KU has yet to see a physical rushing attack.  I consider GTs run game a finesse attack.

Great point.  I'm sure the 10s of KU football fans will be pointing to their GT win as evidence that they can stop a running team, but you are correct that stopping the flexbone triple option is much different than stopping our multiple scheme running attack.  We should be able to have success on the ground, and hopefully set up some big plays in the passing game, similar to against CFU.  Now, I hope it doesn't take us 3 quarters to get the ground game going like it did in that game.  Honestly it shouldn't, CFU likely has a much more talented defense than KU does.

It also helped that at halftime of the GT game Turner Gill figured out that GT simply wasn't going to throw the ball ever and brought everybody up to the line. I think the qb for GT had something like 10 pass attempts for 40 yards through the first six quarters of the season. At least Queso can hit some slants/bubble screens/check downs to Thomas that will either prevent KU stacking the box, or get more yards than they should a la Baylor.

[I_have_purplewood]

Turner Gill

'We saw some things'

Gill couldn't stifle a smile Monday when he was asked if he and his coaching staff had seen on the Nebraska game film some things about Kansas State's defense that could be exploited.

"We saw some things," Gill said. "I'm just gonna leave it at that."

oh man  

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this as potential bulletin board material.  Do you think this would even motivate them (ksu team) or do think they would just agree with his assessment?

[MakeItRain]

Turner Gill

'We saw some things'

Gill couldn't stifle a smile Monday when he was asked if he and his coaching staff had seen on the Nebraska game film some things about Kansas State's defense that could be exploited.

"We saw some things," Gill said. "I'm just gonna leave it at that."

oh man  

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this as potential bulletin board material.  Do you think this would even motivate them (ksu team) or do think they would just agree with his assessment?

No one mentioned it because bulletin board material means nothing as it relates to the play on the field.  Doesn't make you bigger, faster, stronger, or play smarter.   

[EllToPay]

We're probably better than KU, and we should win, but we're going to lose.   

 

[Panjandrum]

Turner Gill

'We saw some things'

Gill couldn't stifle a smile Monday when he was asked if he and his coaching staff had seen on the Nebraska game film some things about Kansas State's defense that could be exploited.

"We saw some things," Gill said. "I'm just gonna leave it at that."

oh man  

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this as potential bulletin board material.  Do you think this would even motivate them (ksu team) or do think they would just agree with his assessment?

No one mentioned it because bulletin board material means nothing as it relates to the play on the field.  Doesn't make you bigger, faster, stronger, or play smarter.   

51,115 people, and countless millions who saw highlights on ESPN 'saw things'.  What was there was obvious to anyone.

It's not like Gill cracked some sort of DaVinci code regarding out defense.  We suck against the run.  We suck, particularly, against teams that can run with their QB.  There's no wrinkle he and Chuck Long will find that will change that.

Also, I'm sure our coaches 'saw things' when breaking down KU's tape.  Like how slow they are.  Like how they defend the pass even worse than they defend the run.  And how their QB situation is pretty much as bad as ours, and their skill players aren't nearly as good as ours either.

The only thing, IMO, that gives KU a fighting chance in this game is home field advantage.

[CHONGS]

rumblings about purple paint on Anderson Family Football Complex!

[WillieWatanabe]

rumblings about purple paint on Anderson Family Football Complex!

[jtksu]

Everyone that posted in this thread prior to me is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  The mind numbing levels of LFBIQ on this is astounding.  It's almost like you people have never actually watched a game of football before. 

[my troll name ... Koppe22]

Coach Radio is all over this game, we are in deep crap.

[MakeItRain]

 

Well it was a good thread until these idiots came around missing all over the carpet. 

:Mods: lock it up.

[Cire]

Coach Radio is all over this game, we are in deep crap.

Wow, just wow.

[1992]

If Zimmerman sees the field - there is a decent chance we go DOWN.  Dude takes worse angles than my son's flag football team.  Christ.

[WillieWatanabe]

If Zimmerman sees the field - there is a decent chance we go DOWN.  Dude takes worse angles than my son's flag football team.  Christ.

of anyone, you're gonna pick on Zimmerman for taking bad angles?

[Panjandrum]

If Zimmerman sees the field - there is a decent chance we go DOWN.  Dude takes worse angles than my son's flag football team.  Christ.

of anyone, you're gonna pick on Zimmerman for taking bad angles?

+1

Lamur spent all last game acting like he was blindfolded in a potato sack race.  And dude is picking on Zimmerman?

[sonofdaxjones]

K-State's defense made it easy even before the ball was snapped, we left so many holes just by the way we lined up it was absurd.

Honestly I'll play the    for a second, that was the worst defensive scheme I've seen at K-State since before Snyder . . . when you could sit up in the stands and see just by the way our defense was aligned where the other team was going to go.   In almost every instance under Snyder where we have been clowned it was because the other team was simply better and had better athletes . . . not because we gave them natural running lanes just by the way we lined up that was exploited by better athletes.   I hate this defense . . . and it's only amplified by our shitty linebackers.

[OregonSmock]

Everyone that posted in this thread prior to me is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  The mind numbing levels of LFBIQ on this is astounding.  It's almost like you people have never actually watched a game of football before. 

There's always gopowertard.com.  You'd be right at home over there.

[Bookcat]

We're probably better than KU, and we should win, but we're going to lose.   

+1, Cire.

[deputy dawg]

K-State's defense made it easy even before the ball was snapped, we left so many holes just by the way we lined up it was absurd.

Honestly I'll play the    for a second, that was the worst defensive scheme I've seen at K-State since before Snyder . . . when you could sit up in the stands and see just by the way our defense was aligned where the other team was going to go.   In almost every instance under Snyder where we have been clowned it was because the other team was simply better and had better athletes . . . not because we gave them natural running lanes just by the way we lined up that was exploited by better athletes.   I hate this defense . . . and it's only amplified by our crapty linebackers.

Perhaps it was designed to give up plays >60 yards to QB's (like 3 of them)?

[Fedor]

K-State's defense made it easy even before the ball was snapped, we left so many holes just by the way we lined up it was absurd.

Honestly I'll play the    for a second, that was the worst defensive scheme I've seen at K-State since before Snyder . . . when you could sit up in the stands and see just by the way our defense was aligned where the other team was going to go.   In almost every instance under Snyder where we have been clowned it was because the other team was simply better and had better athletes . . . not because we gave them natural running lanes just by the way we lined up that was exploited by better athletes.   I hate this defense . . . and it's only amplified by our crapty linebackers.

Do what _FAN did and go through the scoring plays and tell us where the defensive alignment was wrong.  Tell us where the holes were...

[ew2x4]

It looked like we were lining up with 9 people each play.

[Panjandrum]

It looked like we were lining up with 9 people each play.

I noticed we rushed three on one of the TDs.

That tends to work out well against primarily rushing teams.

[kougar24]

I'm sure the 10s of KU football fans will be pointing to their GT win as evidence that they can stop a running team

Sure, they stopped 'em alright: stopped 'em short of 300 rushing yards...by 9 yards. That was at a 5.6 YPC clip, by the way.