QB (Sammuel Lamur related)

[EllToPay]

Lamur is the best athlete of the the three. He's the only one that doesn't look like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) when he throws it and Klein looks like Gregory 2.0 when he's in there.

Gregory didn't know the playbook last year, he had to look at the sideline every time. What's the big deal with doing that with Lamur? He's the best athlete, and if we're only planning on throwing the ball 10-15 times a game, then it's worth a shot. He'll extend the DT's  and LB's with his threat of running, which would hopefully leave more room for Thomas to work with up the middle.

This is my first attempt at a HFBIQ post, please be gentle.

[kitten_mittons]

Tecmo bowl!

But seriously, this is my thought process all year.  Also, when Lamur did throw it, it wasn't 3 yards behind the receiver.  I don't know what it is that Coffman does better than Lamur, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it has nothing to do with playing quarterback.

[kso_FAN]

I hope Snyder at least considers it.  Even Klein's little bit of burst in the QB run game was a nice change. 

We are going to be a run 1st team, so why not try some other options, though week 6 is a bit late for that.  But I'm open to trying some other QB options to try different run game wrinkles.

["storm"nut]

Lamur is the best athlete of the the three. He's the only one that doesn't look like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) when he throws it and Klein looks like Gregory 2.0 when he's in there.

Gregory didn't know the playbook last year, he had to look at the sideline every time. What's the big deal with doing that with Lamur? He's the best athlete, and if we're only planning on throwing the ball 10-15 times a game, then it's worth a shot. He'll extend the DT's  and LB's with his threat of running, which would hopefully leave more room for Thomas to work with up the middle.

This is my first attempt at a HFBIQ post, please be gentle.

Lamar should be our starter against ku. Why the hell not. We run the same 5 or 6 plays with Carson in, I'm sure Lamar can run them as well.

[AzCat]

Tecmo bowl!

But seriously, this is my thought process all year.  Also, when Lamur did throw it, it wasn't 3 yards behind the receiver.  I don't know what it is that Coffman does better than Lamur, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it has nothing to do with playing quarterback.

Coffman is better at being white.   

[EllToPay]

I hope Snyder at least considers it.  Even Klein's little bit of burst in the QB run game was a nice change. 

We are going to be a run 1st team, so why not try some other options, though week 6 is a bit late for that.  But I'm open to trying some other QB options to try different run game wrinkles.

The fact that he's gone to Klein first every time (UCLA game, MO St. and last night) tends me to believe that short of Coffman getting hit in a crosswalk and Klein getting sick off some Hunam, he ain't seeing the field.

[kso_FAN]

I hope Snyder at least considers it.  Even Klein's little bit of burst in the QB run game was a nice change. 

We are going to be a run 1st team, so why not try some other options, though week 6 is a bit late for that.  But I'm open to trying some other QB options to try different run game wrinkles.

The fact that he's gone to Klein first every time (UCLA game, MO St. and last night) tends me to believe that short of Coffman getting hit in a crosswalk and Klein getting sick off some Hunam, he ain't seeing the field.

True, those guys must do some other stuff really, really poorly.  But the fact that he did throw Lamur out there last night, and not just Klein, does say something IMO.

[AzCat]

I'm torn.  This seems like such a good idea but both _fan and stormnut like it therefore it must be:  :powerespect:  

     

["storm"nut]

I'm torn.  This seems like such a good idea but both _fan and stormnut like it therefore it must be:  :powerespect:  

     

I'm trying to convert from tardisim to EMAWisim. It slow but I'm done with being all nice and sunshine ass pumper.

[kougar24]

The thing I don't get is that Snyder has been more than willing to swap QBs at any point in the season, in past years. In fact, I would have considered it one of his strengths as a coach up until this year. He wasn't ever as stubborn as his oldness suggested.

Now? :/

[wabash909]

If Snyder would just roll out the techmo bowl (sic) offense, we wouldn't need to worry about QB.  The weapons!!!!!!!

"We just need a guy that isn't going to lose the games for us".  Important reminder here.

 

[Skipper44]

Lamur is the best athlete of the the three. He's the only one that doesn't look like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) when he throws it and Klein looks like Gregory 2.0 when he's in there.

Gregory didn't know the playbook last year, he had to look at the sideline every time. What's the big deal with doing that with Lamur? He's the best athlete, and if we're only planning on throwing the ball 10-15 times a game, then it's worth a shot. He'll extend the DT's  and LB's with his threat of running, which would hopefully leave more room for Thomas to work with up the middle.

This is my first attempt at a HFBIQ post, please be gentle.

My theory is that he does not trust Lamur to recognize what he is seeing from the defense and OB would rather run the right play with the wrong QB than have the most athletic QB run the wrong play. 

I wish he would at least script a series for Lamur, if only to finally kill the optimism I still hold deep inside that Lamur could be some kind of answer.

[KSUTOMMY]

Either way, we need to change - queso is figured out, that's for sure. Klien and Slamur both did things we hadnt seen with queso; on his run, Klien DRAGGED two nubb defenders 5 MF yards while they were trying to rip the ball out the entire time and Slamur's presence pushed the defense back enough where he made some nice looking run plays and his passing looked good too.

OBz is freaking me out.

[kougar24]

Lamur is the best athlete of the the three. He's the only one that doesn't look like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) when he throws it and Klein looks like Gregory 2.0 when he's in there.

Gregory didn't know the playbook last year, he had to look at the sideline every time. What's the big deal with doing that with Lamur? He's the best athlete, and if we're only planning on throwing the ball 10-15 times a game, then it's worth a shot. He'll extend the DT's  and LB's with his threat of running, which would hopefully leave more room for Thomas to work with up the middle.

This is my first attempt at a HFBIQ post, please be gentle.

My theory is that he does not trust Lamur to recognize what he is seeing from the defense and OB would rather run the right play with the wrong QB than have the most athletic QB run the wrong play. 

I wish he would at least script a series for Lamur, if only to finally kill the optimism I still hold deep inside that Lamur could be some kind of answer.

I'm so sick of this talking point. What evidence is there that Offman is getting us in the "right plays"?

[EllToPay]

Lamur is the best athlete of the the three. He's the only one that doesn't look like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) when he throws it and Klein looks like Gregory 2.0 when he's in there.

Gregory didn't know the playbook last year, he had to look at the sideline every time. What's the big deal with doing that with Lamur? He's the best athlete, and if we're only planning on throwing the ball 10-15 times a game, then it's worth a shot. He'll extend the DT's  and LB's with his threat of running, which would hopefully leave more room for Thomas to work with up the middle.

This is my first attempt at a HFBIQ post, please be gentle.

My theory is that he does not trust Lamur to recognize what he is seeing from the defense and OB would rather run the right play with the wrong QB than have the most athletic QB run the wrong play. 

I wish he would at least script a series for Lamur, if only to finally kill the optimism I still hold deep inside that Lamur could be some kind of answer.

Yeah, that's all we're asking for. Just give the guy a shot.

[kitten_mittons]

LHCBS is apparently a  in his old age.

[EllToPay]

Lamur is the best athlete of the the three. He's the only one that doesn't look like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) when he throws it and Klein looks like Gregory 2.0 when he's in there.

Gregory didn't know the playbook last year, he had to look at the sideline every time. What's the big deal with doing that with Lamur? He's the best athlete, and if we're only planning on throwing the ball 10-15 times a game, then it's worth a shot. He'll extend the DT's  and LB's with his threat of running, which would hopefully leave more room for Thomas to work with up the middle.

This is my first attempt at a HFBIQ post, please be gentle.

My theory is that he does not trust Lamur to recognize what he is seeing from the defense and OB would rather run the right play with the wrong QB than have the most athletic QB run the wrong play. 

I wish he would at least script a series for Lamur, if only to finally kill the optimism I still hold deep inside that Lamur could be some kind of answer.

I'm so sick of this talking point. What evidence is there that Offman is getting us in the "right plays"?

Meh. He's been doing it all year, and OB in his media sessions has even said that's what give him an advantage. If he's been checking into the wrong plays consistently, I imagine he'd hear it from Snyder, or he'd at least get pulled.

Just because they're in the right play doesn't mean it's going to work with him running it, though.

[sonofdaxjones]

If Queso Cheese has actually really checked at the line this (and not just faking it) . . . has there been anything that he's checked into that was really that fantastic??  

In order for a QB to get a feel for the game, and to "understand what they're seeing" they have to play.  

Now I know the most popular guy on a lot of football teams is the back up QB.   But with that said, if we're going to run the kind of offense we're running and that we all know that OB wants to run.   Why not put the guy in there that can potentially make things happen in the QB running game.   Not just just an occasional nice little run, but a guy who can break off some long runs, and also run away from pressure and make a defense pay??

In the passing game, if all we're going to do is work short little isolation routes underneath . . . why not Sammy???

To me, part of the problem with the O-Line and with Thomas getting going is the fact that there's literally no threat to the defense from the QB position.   In the vertical passing game one factor in getting guys open is the threat of a running QB forcing the defense to spy and be overly concerned with run support and contain.  

[CHONGS]

If Queso Cheese has actually really checked at the line this (and not just faking it) . . . has there been anything that he's checked into that was really that fantastic?? 

In order for a QB to get a feel for the game, and to "understand what they're seeing" they have to play. 

Now I know the most popular guy on a lot of football teams is the back up QB.   But with that said, if we're going to run the kind of offense we're running and that we all know that OB wants to run.   Why not put the guy in there that can potentially make things happen in the QB running game.   Not just just an occasional nice little run, but a guy who can break off some long runs, and also run away from pressure and make a defense pay??

In the passing game, if all we're going to do is work short little isolation routes underneath . . . why not Sammy???

To me, part of the problem with the O-Line and with Thomas getting going is the fact that there's literally no threat to the defense from the QB position.   In the vertical passing game one factor in getting guys open is the threat of a running QB forcing the defense to spy and be overly concerned with run support and contain. 

Unfortunately for SLamur his throws are very low and will get knocked down at the LOS at lot.

I really do think CC4Q is the best option (HAR!) we have.

[AzCat]

My theory is that he does not trust Lamur to recognize what he is seeing from the defense and OB would rather run the right play with the wrong QB than have the most athletic QB run the wrong play. 

You are, perhaps, familiar with a former OB QB named Michael Bishop.  He of the "left" and "right" wristbands.  Make a single even remotely plausible argument that Bishop would recognize the difference between his ass and a hole in the ground much less anything a defense might have been doing.  

 

[EllToPay]

If Queso Cheese has actually really checked at the line this (and not just faking it) . . . has there been anything that he's checked into that was really that fantastic?? 

In order for a QB to get a feel for the game, and to "understand what they're seeing" they have to play. 

Now I know the most popular guy on a lot of football teams is the back up QB.   But with that said, if we're going to run the kind of offense we're running and that we all know that OB wants to run.   Why not put the guy in there that can potentially make things happen in the QB running game.   Not just just an occasional nice little run, but a guy who can break off some long runs, and also run away from pressure and make a defense pay??

In the passing game, if all we're going to do is work short little isolation routes underneath . . . why not Sammy???

To me, part of the problem with the O-Line and with Thomas getting going is the fact that there's literally no threat to the defense from the QB position.   In the vertical passing game one factor in getting guys open is the threat of a running QB forcing the defense to spy and be overly concerned with run support and contain. 

Unfortunately for SLamur his throws are very low and will get knocked down at the LOS at lot.

I really do think CC4Q is the best option (HAR!) we have.

jfc, chings. i can't tell if your being sarcastic or serious.

wgaf if his throws are low? that's better than standing in the pocket and just putting your head down waiting to be sacked.

[PoetWarrior]

so why not try some other options

We refuse.

[kougar24]

I've convinced myself there is zero chance Lamur could do any worse, or give us any less of a chance to win, than Offman.

[sonofdaxjones]

If Queso Cheese has actually really checked at the line this (and not just faking it) . . . has there been anything that he's checked into that was really that fantastic?? 

In order for a QB to get a feel for the game, and to "understand what they're seeing" they have to play. 

Now I know the most popular guy on a lot of football teams is the back up QB.   But with that said, if we're going to run the kind of offense we're running and that we all know that OB wants to run.   Why not put the guy in there that can potentially make things happen in the QB running game.   Not just just an occasional nice little run, but a guy who can break off some long runs, and also run away from pressure and make a defense pay??

In the passing game, if all we're going to do is work short little isolation routes underneath . . . why not Sammy???

To me, part of the problem with the O-Line and with Thomas getting going is the fact that there's literally no threat to the defense from the QB position.   In the vertical passing game one factor in getting guys open is the threat of a running QB forcing the defense to spy and be overly concerned with run support and contain. 

Unfortunately for SLamur his throws are very low and will get knocked down at the LOS at lot.

I really do think CC4Q is the best option (HAR!) we have.

Then you move him around in the passing game . . . you don't ask a Lamur to be a drop back passer.   I know it wasn't only one pass last night, but it wasn't low.  It was right on the money.  

We are beyond this "Managing the game" Bull$hit . . . it's quite clear this offensive line cannot get anything going when we're in "Managing the game" mode with a QB who is not a threat either passing or running.  

[EllToPay]

so why not try some other options

We refuse.

was there enough material last night for a video?